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Do You Trust Richard Burr? (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Mar 2017 OP
About as far as I can throw a grand piano by one leg Warpy Mar 2017 #1
He's a repub, so no. old guy Mar 2017 #2
Do you trust any republican?? Angry Dragon Mar 2017 #3
No. H2O Man Mar 2017 #4
His democratic colleague trusts him... Blanks Mar 2017 #5
As a Congressman he passed the buck. mwooldri Mar 2017 #6
DUzy. eom littlemissmartypants Mar 2017 #7
Not Since He Shot Hamilton nt SoCalMusicLover Mar 2017 #8
Don't be silly, that was Aaron Burr....Richard Burr was the star of "Perry Mason" brooklynite Mar 2017 #23
If there's an R after his name, no matt819 Mar 2017 #9
He is a Republican & part of the leadership, so hell no, cubed. nt irisblue Mar 2017 #10
At this point we have no choice. Warner seems to and dem4decades Mar 2017 #11
For what it's worth OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #12
No. He and Nunes both tried to protect the Orange Fuhrer early on. Vinca Mar 2017 #13
seen this? Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #14
Yep. And he has been foot dragging the entire way on the investigation. wildeyed Mar 2017 #19
pretty much negates any prosecutory actions, doesn't it? just ask Ollie North. Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #20
True that. wildeyed Mar 2017 #21
"R"? fuck no Demonaut Mar 2017 #15
Since most (R)ussia's aren't speaking out on Nune's then no uponit7771 Mar 2017 #16
never EVER trust a repuke Skittles Mar 2017 #17
No. He carried water for Trump on this issue already. wildeyed Mar 2017 #18
ja see my thread on this? Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #22
He is a rubber stamp for Trump. wildeyed Mar 2017 #32
Never trust a republican. Kingofalldems Mar 2017 #24
OTOH, maybe he'll channel Sam Ervin DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #25
he was a dem, pretty sure Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #26
That's true, but Ervin was a conservative Dem DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #43
Hell no. n/t GP6971 Mar 2017 #27
No - he is a "redemptionist" that believes people who commit crimes jpak Mar 2017 #28
nope, but at this moment I trust him more than Nunes. We will know shortly still_one Mar 2017 #29
He might just be smarter that Nunes. wildeyed Mar 2017 #31
Wait & see. Scoopster Mar 2017 #30
No. (He's my Senator) He maintains he's not running for re-election Nevermypresident Mar 2017 #33
No Rethug can be trusted. Dawson Leery Mar 2017 #34
No. roamer65 Mar 2017 #35
Do not trust. sharedvalues Mar 2017 #36
In his DC Office he has a TV with Fox on spouting disinformation sharedvalues Mar 2017 #37
No. I think he's on team Trump. herding cats Mar 2017 #38
Lawrence O'Donnell's talking him up on MSNBC... VOX Mar 2017 #39
I trust Richard Burr to do whatever he thinks will boost Richard Burr Lee-Lee Mar 2017 #40
Not really Gothmog Mar 2017 #41
He will carry water for Trump until it is no longer politically expedient to do so. Tatiana Mar 2017 #42
here is why I think Burr might be better than we think scheming daemons Mar 2017 #44
Not really, but he hasn't shit his pants yet. Unlike Devin Nunes. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #45

Warpy

(111,143 posts)
1. About as far as I can throw a grand piano by one leg
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:29 PM
Mar 2017

With that billionaire Russian opening a billion dollar company in NC, I think it's safe to say he's been bought.

H2O Man

(73,506 posts)
4. No.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:30 PM
Mar 2017

Recommended.

Malcolm X had a system where he rated people on a scale of 1 to 100, on how much he trusted them. I find this system helpful. Thus, while I do not trust Burr, in the context of the Senate intelligence committee, I think the Democrats will be able to exert influence on him.

mwooldri

(10,299 posts)
6. As a Congressman he passed the buck.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:35 PM
Mar 2017

Say what you want about Howard Coble... He represented his constituents well, and went to bat for them with government agencies no matter their political persuasion. Burr was districted into my area at one point, wrote to him about an immigration issue. My wife, from a different address, did write to Coble about the same immigration issue (Coble served that address). I'm thinking because I was the immigrant in Burrs district but my wife was the petitioner and in Coble's district that it's Coble's job.

If pushed hard enough, Burr will stand up and do the right thing. But he's been too tea-party polluted.

matt819

(10,749 posts)
9. If there's an R after his name, no
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:38 PM
Mar 2017

Or to quote the formerly sainted Ronald Reagan, trust but verify. Applies to Russians and republicans.

But I repeat myself.

dem4decades

(11,269 posts)
11. At this point we have no choice. Warner seems to and
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:43 PM
Mar 2017

McCain and Graham might stiffen his resolve. He seemed sincere at the presser today, if he's lying he's much better at it than Trump. Which is not a good thing.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
12. For what it's worth
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:44 PM
Mar 2017

This is actually the first time this man has had a chance in the limelight in his 2 decades in Congress. He's been having a grafter kind of time up until now because no one noticed him. I suspect he'll mind his p's and q's since he knows we are now watching and he wants to keep his job in this purple state.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
13. No. He and Nunes both tried to protect the Orange Fuhrer early on.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 05:44 PM
Mar 2017

We need an independent investigation.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
19. Yep. And he has been foot dragging the entire way on the investigation.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:49 PM
Mar 2017

Maybe they are trying to 'look busy' on the Russia investigation while they ram Gorsuch through the Senate. My guess, the SC pick is the real prize in the game.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
20. pretty much negates any prosecutory actions, doesn't it? just ask Ollie North.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:51 PM
Mar 2017

they can do just about anything at this point, and the 5th seat will pretty much put the seal in the cask.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
18. No. He carried water for Trump on this issue already.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:47 PM
Mar 2017

He called reporters 'off the record' (aka leaking to the media) and tried convince them there was nothing to this crazy Trump Russia story they were all writing about. I don't trust him after that. He already tried to kill the story at Trump's behest. From WaPo....

More about his ties to Trump. He was a BIG fan.....

Burr is completely useless to his constituents. He votes with Trump 100% of the time, despite being from a purple state. He is bought and paid for by special interest. I trust him as far as I can throw him.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. ja see my thread on this?
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:53 PM
Mar 2017

those are great links! love the one about his voting record, especially. what a surprise, hey?

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
32. He is a rubber stamp for Trump.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:16 PM
Mar 2017

Talks nice, but votes with Trump 100% of the time. Just a put nice suit on old school white supremacy and you have Richard Burr. He has never done a single thing I admire, and I do admire some Republicans, even if I disagree with them. In some ways, Jesse Helms was a better Senator. He was so wrong about everything, but he had amazing constituent services. He really worked the personal relationship part of politics. But not Burr. He doesn't care about his constituents at all, never has.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
43. That's true, but Ervin was a conservative Dem
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 06:10 AM
Mar 2017

like most southern politicans back then. Lawrence O'Donnell pointed out that Burr actually holds the seat that was Ervin's.

jpak

(41,756 posts)
28. No - he is a "redemptionist" that believes people who commit crimes
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 08:59 PM
Mar 2017

do not need to be punished - they can just "redeem" themselves somehow.

yup

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
31. He might just be smarter that Nunes.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:08 PM
Mar 2017

I don't trust him at all. He is my Senator and has never done a single thing I admired in the past. Maybe he will exceed my expectations. I doubt it. But we will know soon.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
30. Wait & see.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:00 PM
Mar 2017

I'm not gonna make any judgments about him yet. Warner vouching for him, and his knowledge of the subject matter at the press conference today were enough for earn that.

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
33. No. (He's my Senator) He maintains he's not running for re-election
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 09:22 PM
Mar 2017

so some might see that as encouraging. However, based on numerous reasons, I do not trust him.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
37. In his DC Office he has a TV with Fox on spouting disinformation
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:07 PM
Mar 2017

Fox NC, in Burr's DC office. Anything else you need to know about whether he cares about the country?

(p.s. nearby, McCain has on CNBC, not Fox. That explains a lot)

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
38. No. I think he's on team Trump.
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:13 PM
Mar 2017
White House spokesman Sean Spicer confirmed that the White House communicated with officials with the aim of contesting reporting on Russia, but maintained that the administration did nothing improper. “When informed by the FBI that [the ­Russia-related reporting] was false, we told reporters who else they should contact to corroborate the FBI’s version of the story,” he said.

The decision to involve those officials could be perceived as threatening the independence of U.S. spy agencies that are supposed to remain insulated from partisan issues, as well as undercutting the credibility of ongoing congressional probes. Those officials saw their involvement as an attempt to correct coverage they believed to be erroneous.


The effort also involved senior lawmakers with access to classified intelligence about Russia, including Sen. Richard Burr (R-N.C.) and Rep. Devin Nunes (R-Calif.), the chairmen of the Senate and House intelligence committees. A spokesman for Nunes said that he had already begun speaking to reporters to challenge the story and that, “at the request of a White House communications aide, Chairman Nunes then spoke to an additional reporter and delivered the same message.”

Unlike the others, Nunes spoke on the record and was subsequently quoted in the Wall Street Journal.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-sought-to-enlist-intelligence-officials-key-lawmakers-to-counter-russia-stories/2017/02/24/c8487552-fa99-11e6-be05-1a3817ac21a5_story.html?utm_term=.9f517c2e000f

I think we're in uncharted waters here. There's not one ethical Republican we can turn to to actually act on this.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
39. Lawrence O'Donnell's talking him up on MSNBC...
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:17 PM
Mar 2017

Saying that Trump should fear Burr more than anyone.

For what it's worth. But I wouldn't trust any Republican nowadays.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
40. I trust Richard Burr to do whatever he thinks will boost Richard Burr
Wed Mar 29, 2017, 10:24 PM
Mar 2017

If he thinks the winds will blow in a way where doing the right thing is best for him, he will. If Trump has dirt on him or makes him and offer where covering is best for him, that is what he will do.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
42. He will carry water for Trump until it is no longer politically expedient to do so.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 12:46 AM
Mar 2017

But I think he does have a little more integrity than Nunes.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
44. here is why I think Burr might be better than we think
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 08:26 AM
Mar 2017

a) he us not up for re election until 2022. he doesn't have to worry about being primaried from the right. There will be another Presidential election before he has to face the voters again.

b) North Carolina is an increasingly Democratic state. Burr only won 51-45 last year.

c) He has hinted he might not run again in 2022. He can actually put country ahead of party.

d) even though I disagree with him on 90% of issues, he IS a patriot. He won't ignore Russian meddling.


Look for the hard right to start coming after him hard.... because I actually think he is going to be the Republican "hero" this nation is starving for.

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