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Damn Manchin!!! (Original Post) Bayard Mar 2017 OP
No surprise there dalton99a Mar 2017 #1
Not very surprised Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #2
It is a wise move nycbos Mar 2017 #5
Howard Dean warned that the Dem base will rebel if they get enough Dems to get to 60 flamingdem Mar 2017 #3
is a frog water tight? MFM008 Mar 2017 #4
For all the people screaming... nycbos Mar 2017 #6
He's afraid of a 30% president... kentuck Mar 2017 #7
His potential voters gave 68.6% to Trump mythology Mar 2017 #11
No surprise. It's reported Schumer has the 41 votes he needs without the red state Democrats. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #8
He seldom acts like a Democrat, but often votes w/"them". southerncrone Mar 2017 #9
Yes exactly. We don't need to waste our funds or energy supporting Dems like this as a party. JCanete Mar 2017 #19
Red-state Dems will make us all look like doormats! TheDebbieDee Mar 2017 #10
I used to get really pissed at the "Blue Dog" Democrats but realized we would Jim Beard Mar 2017 #12
imagine if they were replaced by progressives. nt JCanete Mar 2017 #20
Manchin knows which side of his bread is buttered. TheBlackAdder Mar 2017 #13
If we lost this, we all need to call the red state Dems and tell them we are getting a real populist adigal Mar 2017 #14
This is stupid. DURHAM D Mar 2017 #15
keep the powder dry maxsolomon Mar 2017 #22
You know what's worse? It won't do him a damn bit of good in W.Va. Yavin4 Mar 2017 #16
You sound so sure. Got some polling that shows he'll lose in WV? KittyWampus Mar 2017 #17
of course. spanone Mar 2017 #18
Of course he is--he is a nasty little bj, for sale to any repug Marthe48 Mar 2017 #21

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,407 posts)
2. Not very surprised
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:32 PM
Mar 2017

I believe that Schumer is letting a few red-state Dems off the leash, so he probably already has enough Dems to filibuster

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
3. Howard Dean warned that the Dem base will rebel if they get enough Dems to get to 60
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:32 PM
Mar 2017

No money for u if that happens.

What are Dems - the party of Yes?

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
6. For all the people screaming...
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:34 PM
Mar 2017

... we need 41 votes to sustain. We also have to defend Dems in very red states.


Let a few of them vote yes to give them cover and still have enough to filibuster

southerncrone

(5,506 posts)
9. He seldom acts like a Democrat, but often votes w/"them".
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:37 PM
Mar 2017

He is the most Republican Democrat in Washington. Is he another infiltrator to our party? I fully expect him to flip to the dark side officially any day now.

Pleeeeeze, WV, find a real Democrat to run against him!

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
19. Yes exactly. We don't need to waste our funds or energy supporting Dems like this as a party.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:56 PM
Mar 2017

It undercuts our progressive message, waters down our legislation even when we have the power to craft it, and only makes our resistance of Republican policy ineffective, and dare I say it, even at times, appear disingenuous. We need to get the fuck rid of him.
 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
10. Red-state Dems will make us all look like doormats!
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:38 PM
Mar 2017

I hate them! My red-state Dem is Sen Claire "Both sides do it" McCaskill and she's stated that she wants to avoid MAKING the republicans use the nuclear option. I also think she believes she can win a few republican votes for next year's election. But she doesn't realize that if she votes for Gorsuch, she'll lose Dem votes!

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
12. I used to get really pissed at the "Blue Dog" Democrats but realized we would
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:43 PM
Mar 2017

not get ANYTHING if they were replaced by Republicans.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
14. If we lost this, we all need to call the red state Dems and tell them we are getting a real populist
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:45 PM
Mar 2017

to run against them, and we will fund the crap out of them.

They need to fear us more than our Russian president, Truputin.

DURHAM D

(32,609 posts)
15. This is stupid.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:48 PM
Mar 2017

His constituents don't care and won't remember 5 minutes from now that he voted for Gorsuch.

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
22. keep the powder dry
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 05:18 PM
Mar 2017

all about that powder.

his constituents don't even remember that they voted for *.

Yavin4

(35,437 posts)
16. You know what's worse? It won't do him a damn bit of good in W.Va.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:52 PM
Mar 2017

He's going to lose in W. Va. bigly. Why would hard W. Va. right wingers want a soft Republican when they can get a hard Republican?

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