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Why do I smell Russia/Republican propaganda pushing the "Greedy Obama" meme? (Original Post) Botany Apr 2017 OP
Yeah, If somebody expresses a concern HopeAgain Apr 2017 #1
Works for me. Botany Apr 2017 #2
Bush the Elder made $750,000 per speech WhiteTara Apr 2017 #4
Oh and now it is about race? HopeAgain Apr 2017 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author rzemanfl Apr 2017 #8
Well let's see, shall we? Pacifist Patriot Apr 2017 #10
My dislike of this hasn't got a damn thing to HopeAgain Apr 2017 #15
I'll look for your candidacy. nt WhiteTara Apr 2017 #18
For a "harder" left turn, there's a senatorial seat in Vermont where it might be worthwhile... Hekate Apr 2017 #22
The "'appearance" is bad? Not to me. JHan Apr 2017 #14
Pls get off the repug/Sanders talking point meme and research CF... brush Apr 2017 #17
the Tiger Beat mentality lives on Skittles Apr 2017 #19
I don't need to blame the Russians, but they're known to maximise silly concerns. JHan Apr 2017 #13
Why people would deny Obama making money is beyond me! hrmjustin Apr 2017 #3
Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are not tied to the Pubs or Russians Wiseman32218 Apr 2017 #5
Ruth Marcus is hardly a Russian agent. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #6
in light of trumpalooza this is hilarious.... spanone Apr 2017 #9
Is this the conspiracy theory du jour: anybody criticizing Obama is a purebred Russian Trollhound? Jake Stern Apr 2017 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author Hekate Apr 2017 #21
You are right to think so. All corporate media serve their owners QC Apr 2017 #12
Could just be your standard concern trolls. Aristus Apr 2017 #16
Because you know sewage when you smell it Hekate Apr 2017 #20

WhiteTara

(29,692 posts)
4. Bush the Elder made $750,000 per speech
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 05:55 PM
Apr 2017

I never heard a murmur. A Black Man or Woman? String em up.!

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
7. Oh and now it is about race?
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 06:01 PM
Apr 2017

Geez I just think the appearance is bad, but apparently the slightest criticism of Obama and the critics are racist russians.

Such mature analysis... Thanks.

Response to HopeAgain (Reply #7)

Pacifist Patriot

(24,652 posts)
10. Well let's see, shall we?
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 06:29 PM
Apr 2017

White men get speaking fees and nary a controversy.

A woman and a black man get speaking fees and suddenly it's cause for concern.

The math is not advanced calculus. Damn right it's racism and sexism at play!

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
15. My dislike of this hasn't got a damn thing to
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 07:51 PM
Apr 2017

Do with race or sex. And yes, I'm hoping we start moving harder to the left because wealth disparity is turning this country into a third-world nation.

But then again, maybe this ia another thing that will help mobilize the "harder" left and they'll come for the primaries...

Hekate

(90,556 posts)
22. For a "harder" left turn, there's a senatorial seat in Vermont where it might be worthwhile...
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 09:18 PM
Apr 2017

...primarying the incumbent, just to shake things up a bit. You know, like the incumbent himself likes to suggest.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
14. The "'appearance" is bad? Not to me.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 07:14 PM
Apr 2017

In fact I think it's great.

I think it's fantastic when wealthy liberals or popular liberals speak to Wall St and tell them to do better.

The assumption that it is inherently bad to accept money for your talents or reputation is offensive. The assumption that speaking to them is somehow him bending over for them is ridiculous. Why shouldn't Obama share his wisdom with Wall St, because of petty concerns among the hard left and hard right? No matter how you look at it, the whole dust up is ridiculous.

brush

(53,741 posts)
17. Pls get off the repug/Sanders talking point meme and research CF...
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 08:09 PM
Apr 2017

and Why he accepted that firms invitation to speak — at a healthcare conference btw, one of Obama's pet issues.

IMO Sanders and Warren both owe Obama an apology for their knee-jerk reactions.

Has Obama over 8 years earned some trust in his judgement, especially from us progressives? He has donated hundreds of thousands to charity and he may well donate some or all of this money.

Whatever private citizen Obama does however, it's none of our business.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
13. I don't need to blame the Russians, but they're known to maximise silly concerns.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 07:09 PM
Apr 2017

Just read the article, I wouldn't qualify it as "Russian propaganda".

But I'm sure RT will find someway to turn this into a headline.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
6. Ruth Marcus is hardly a Russian agent.
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 05:58 PM
Apr 2017

One may agree or disagree with the practice of ex-presidents being paid large sums for speeches, but disapproving is not evidence that one is a Russian propagandist, bot or troll.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
11. Is this the conspiracy theory du jour: anybody criticizing Obama is a purebred Russian Trollhound?
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 06:32 PM
Apr 2017

Just trying to get up to speed.







Response to Jake Stern (Reply #11)

QC

(26,371 posts)
12. You are right to think so. All corporate media serve their owners
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 07:08 PM
Apr 2017

as part of a larger propaganda system.



Hekate

(90,556 posts)
20. Because you know sewage when you smell it
Sat Apr 29, 2017, 09:12 PM
Apr 2017

Thanks for the link. DiFi looks like she's staring into the heart of darkness, doesn't she? Served America all these decades and lives to see treason in the Capitol.

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