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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
Mon May 1, 2017, 09:07 PM May 2017

Betrayal beyond belief: Conservatives cry foul after Republicans reach budget deal to jettison al

“Betrayal beyond belief”: Conservatives cry foul after Republicans reach budget deal “to jettison all of Trump’s priorities”

Sophia Tesfaye at Salon

http://www.salon.com/2017/05/01/betrayal-beyond-belief-conservatives-cry-foul-after-republicans-reach-budget-deal-to-jettison-all-of-trumps-priorities/

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House and Senate appropriators unveiled the text of the more than $1 trillion spending package early on Monday morning. Despite threats of drastic cuts to vital and varied domestic programs outlined in President Donald Trump’s proposed “skinny budget” for fiscal 2018, the more than 1,600-page bill concerning funding through the end of September provides increased spending for the National Institute of Health, the National Endowments for the Arts and Humanities, Pell Grants to assist with college tuition, and the federal judiciary — which Trump has attacked on numerous occasions. Additionally, Republicans in the House agreed to continue fully funding Planned Parenthood and saved nearly 99 percent of the Environmental Protection Agency’s current level of funding.

Republicans’ plan does not provide funding for Trump’s proposed border wall construction and only about half the amount sought by Trump for a military buildup.

Democrats celebrated the deal with the Republican-controlled Congress.

“We have eliminated more than 160 Republican poison pill riders, ranging from undermining a woman’s right to reproductive health to dismantling Dodd-Frank’s vital Wall Street consumer protections,” House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi said in a statement. “The omnibus does not fund President Trump’s immoral and unwise border wall or create a cruel new deportation force.”


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Betrayal beyond belief: Conservatives cry foul after Republicans reach budget deal to jettison al (Original Post) applegrove May 2017 OP
Thanks for the post Equinox Moon May 2017 #1
Congratulations Dems! Nancy, you rock! Alice11111 May 2017 #2
and the rest of us for putting the fear of God in GOP at town halls and by melting their phones with yurbud May 2017 #30
Yes. We have the power. We have to keep using it. The Wielding Truth May 2017 #35
Yeah Alice11111 May 2017 #52
Good. I hope they continue to eat each other alive. GoCubsGo May 2017 #3
They seem to be doing a good job of eating their own, BUT Dems need Alice11111 May 2017 #53
f to the greatest page malaise May 2017 #4
Well, if you were stupid enough to trust Comrade Casino* Achilleaze May 2017 #5
What you said. Demtexan May 2017 #14
What a great thing to pass on! Bless him! Squinch May 2017 #41
This may be the funniest thing I will read all day. LonePirate May 2017 #6
I saw this budget today. It's much saner than the so-called PatrickforO May 2017 #7
Good job Democrats! nt Lucky Luciano May 2017 #8
i don't think they're conservatives - more like dittoheads certainot May 2017 #9
Exactly Hayduke Bomgarte May 2017 #17
How did this happen? What is up? pangaia May 2017 #10
Some possible reasons duncang May 2017 #25
Good. Let's keep the pressure on, get as much as we can, pangaia May 2017 #26
He simply wanted a win on his scoreboard regardless of what he had to overlook Samantha May 2017 #33
I think #2 is pretty accurate NewJeffCT May 2017 #37
Never underestimate Nancy...she is the best! She has her caucus under control and is smart... Demsrule86 May 2017 #46
The Conservatives Are A Minority Ccarmona May 2017 #11
I see it as a desire to tread cautiously bucolic_frolic May 2017 #12
I believe the long-term Repub leaders don't want to blindly follow Trump and Nay May 2017 #39
K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 spanone May 2017 #13
In order to MAGA SCantiGOP May 2017 #15
And a lot of American people. Demtexan May 2017 #18
Oh, fuck the people SCantiGOP May 2017 #20
It was a rough night. Demtexan May 2017 #21
Midterms spooking them? SHRED May 2017 #16
Maybe a little but this is just funding until Sept and the midterms are still a year and a half cstanleytech May 2017 #19
They can't cut the government too soon if they want to keep their majority. haele May 2017 #36
Well, how 'bout that. calimary May 2017 #22
They are republicans Turbineguy May 2017 #23
KnR! Cha May 2017 #24
So...now that they got that over fast and pretty much Guilded Lilly May 2017 #27
Maybe having Republicans controlling everything... Kablooie May 2017 #28
It scares me to think Republicans are even capable of coming to their senses world wide wally May 2017 #29
CA get 100M for High speed rail but no wall for the deplorables TNLib May 2017 #31
taste of your own medicine, you heartless thugs? niyad May 2017 #32
Wow. I'm particularly surprised at the Planned Parenthood funding. nt Honeycombe8 May 2017 #34
Yeah, I would have thought there would be a big stink over that. Ligyron May 2017 #38
how can this be?? I thought both parties were the same!!1! JNelson6563 May 2017 #40
Both Parties are the same on DU. In real life they are not the same, they are VASTLY different. Lil Missy May 2017 #42
Yes, I realize that. JNelson6563 May 2017 #45
Yes I knew you were being sarcastic. My response was more a poke at the naysayers. Lil Missy May 2017 #48
I thought and hoped that was the case. JNelson6563 May 2017 #49
You can't see it because I'm playing the smallest violin in the world, in sympathy lindysalsagal May 2017 #43
Welcome to our America, Trump, you putz eleny May 2017 #44
and they said the marches wouldn't do any good, or the angry town halls..... lindysalsagal May 2017 #47
Here, here! applegrove May 2017 #50
Is this real life? Maraya1969 May 2017 #51

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
30. and the rest of us for putting the fear of God in GOP at town halls and by melting their phones with
Tue May 2, 2017, 10:21 AM
May 2017

calls.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
53. They seem to be doing a good job of eating their own, BUT Dems need
Tue May 2, 2017, 07:32 PM
May 2017

Dems need to tone down the winning rhetorical until the bottom line is signed. Let the Repubs save a little face and Dems walk away with the spoils.
Now, the Repubs are back tracking and saying it won't happen again.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
5. Well, if you were stupid enough to trust Comrade Casino*
Mon May 1, 2017, 09:18 PM
May 2017

you should go kick yourselves in the ass. It was plain from the git-go that he is a lying, cheating casino sleazeball sharpie who violates bonds of trust routinely. D'oh.

* republican draft-&-tax dodger-in-chief





Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
14. What you said.
Mon May 1, 2017, 10:47 PM
May 2017

My father was a member of the democratic party all his adult life.

He would be pissed off if he was still alive.

I am doing my best to take his place.

My daddy would be kicking some republican ass.

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
41. What a great thing to pass on! Bless him!
Tue May 2, 2017, 04:51 PM
May 2017

Mine was a Republican all his life. I think even HE would be pissed and kicking some republican ass.

PatrickforO

(14,570 posts)
7. I saw this budget today. It's much saner than the so-called
Mon May 1, 2017, 10:02 PM
May 2017

'skinny budget.'

Maybe our telephone calls are working? I know I called today about the upcoming vote on the ACA repeal. I urged my very-right-wing US Representative to vote 'no' on the repeal. The way I figure it, if several thousand more call him with the same message, that's how he'll vote.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
10. How did this happen? What is up?
Mon May 1, 2017, 10:27 PM
May 2017

Why did the repub shits agree to this..?
I read the entire SALON ting and I have no idea....
Am I the only dumb one here?
(You don't have to answer the last question.)

duncang

(1,907 posts)
25. Some possible reasons
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:09 AM
May 2017

!. "Never pick a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel" Mark Twain Referencing trying to fight the media. Dipshit donnie is doing that and they are trying to distance themselves from him.

2. They worry that it may end up being more of a gotv for democrats if they kill the funding for items like planned parenthood, health, etc. This would worry them not only in purple states. But seems to be a democratic gotv in red states. And when it comes down to it voter involvement does boost turn out numbers.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
26. Good. Let's keep the pressure on, get as much as we can,
Tue May 2, 2017, 12:20 AM
May 2017

And THEN still gotv and take these bastarts down fall of 2018.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
33. He simply wanted a win on his scoreboard regardless of what he had to overlook
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:21 PM
May 2017

He is desperate to make some moves that suggest he is not a total loser, and signing off on some of these items he probably thinks will bring his approval rate up. IMHO

Sam

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
37. I think #2 is pretty accurate
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:57 PM
May 2017

by keeping PP, NIH, NEA funding and not funding the Wall, they're hoping it will help them in the elections...

of course, if they wipe it all out with the 2017-2018 budget that will go into effect 10/1/17, then all bets are off.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
46. Never underestimate Nancy...she is the best! She has her caucus under control and is smart...
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:00 PM
May 2017

I think Schumer did a good job too.

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
11. The Conservatives Are A Minority
Mon May 1, 2017, 10:29 PM
May 2017

That have no interest in governing, other legislating against Womens' choice and tax breaks for their donors. This budget compromise came about because Trump had no input, influence, or regard in its outcome. Congress, especially a majority of Rebubs are quickly learning that when they don't let Trump get in the way, things might get done on Capital Hill.

bucolic_frolic

(43,128 posts)
12. I see it as a desire to tread cautiously
Mon May 1, 2017, 10:35 PM
May 2017

Congressional GOP hears their constituents, knows the Russia fallout
is not over, and prefers to sit on the status quo and wait and see.

Nay

(12,051 posts)
39. I believe the long-term Repub leaders don't want to blindly follow Trump and
Tue May 2, 2017, 03:48 PM
May 2017

his crew down the path of obviously screwing their constituents because they suspect T and crew may not be in office very much longer. They don't want to be tainted, IOW.

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
15. In order to MAGA
Mon May 1, 2017, 10:53 PM
May 2017

All Trump has to do is neutralize the free press, both parties in both houses of Congress and the federal judiciary.

Who knew that taking over a 240 year old Democratic Republic would be that hard?

SCantiGOP

(13,869 posts)
20. Oh, fuck the people
Mon May 1, 2017, 11:21 PM
May 2017

If he could order around the Supreme Court and Congress like he was used to doing to his trump empire minions he wouldn't have to worry about the people.

The only way I survived election night was to keep repeating "We still have a Constitution" over and over. Congress doesn't want to go down with him and the Supremes won't put up with his bullshit.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
21. It was a rough night.
Mon May 1, 2017, 11:35 PM
May 2017

American people are tougher then republicans think we are.

The protests took the republicans back.

The protests at the airports were great.

The big march on Washington was big and powerful.

My father told me about the fight for unions after WW2.

That is how he got into politics.

It was not easy or fun.

He said you cannot give up or give in.

The republicans have not changed since then.







cstanleytech

(26,283 posts)
19. Maybe a little but this is just funding until Sept and the midterms are still a year and a half
Mon May 1, 2017, 11:07 PM
May 2017

away so the Repugnant are probably sharpening their knives to plunge in the American peoples backs later this year or early next.

haele

(12,647 posts)
36. They can't cut the government too soon if they want to keep their majority.
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:26 PM
May 2017

It takes about a year for a bad policy to gum up the government enough to start to affect the nation as a whole. If they want to keep their majority, they have to hold off on the tax cuts until after Jan, 2018.

The effects won't start to really "trickle down" to the GOP base until after November when the government can no longer steal from 2019 set-asides to keep funding critical programs for the poor and middle class and run out of the excuses and lies-er-promises.

Then they have 2019 to really implement a crack-down on citizens. And it won't just be the brown, black, and non-Christianist citizens by then, either.

Of course, the GOP will then find out that a dictatorship is even harder to maintain than a majority in a democracy, and running a country like the Mafia is just not sustainable.

Being "in power" in Hell is still being in Hell. There are very few nice things left.

Haele

calimary

(81,220 posts)
22. Well, how 'bout that.
Mon May 1, 2017, 11:45 PM
May 2017

I've seen that elsewhere, too. For example:

US SPENDING DEAL SHOWS DEMOCRATS STILL WIELD CLOUT IN CONGRESS

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/us-spending-deal-shows-democrats-still-wield-clout-in-congress/

A LOT of this went our way, and a lot more went against trump. Which is what should be standard practice by now.

VOTE 2018!!! DON'T MISS IT!!!

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
27. So...now that they got that over fast and pretty much
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:08 AM
May 2017

ignored their "commander in chief ", you can bet they are fighting tooth and nail to obliterate healthcare for millions, which has and will always be their goal. Nothing matters but destroying Obama's legacy. The hate is strong. The hate is what keeps them going behind the smoke screen of the Cretins' lunacy.

And this one is closer to passing.
Call your Reps!!

Kablooie

(18,626 posts)
28. Maybe having Republicans controlling everything...
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:27 AM
May 2017

Is the best way for Democrats to achieve their goals.

Whoda thunk it.

world wide wally

(21,740 posts)
29. It scares me to think Republicans are even capable of coming to their senses
Tue May 2, 2017, 01:31 AM
May 2017

Be careful!.... It could be a trick

Ligyron

(7,627 posts)
38. Yeah, I would have thought there would be a big stink over that.
Tue May 2, 2017, 02:58 PM
May 2017

Well, they just have to be happy with having a few Xian Nutballs in charge of HHS.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
47. and they said the marches wouldn't do any good, or the angry town halls.....
Tue May 2, 2017, 06:00 PM
May 2017

We all won this one: Everyone who came out for a cause and joined the resistance:

Let's hear it for ACLU, PLanned Parenthood, NARAL, NAACP, LGBT groups, MoveON, COmmon Cause, all of hte groups.

Awesome!

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