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Far-right fanboys are trying to organize street gangs and the most effective way to fight back may be mockery
AMANDA MARCOTTE
Kyle Chapman, known to his fans on the alt-right as Based Stickman for beating a leftist protester with a wooden stick at an early March pro-Trump protest in Berkeley, California, wants people to think hes tough. In late April Chapman announced on Facebook his creation of a new group of right-wing street fighters, called the Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights (or FOAK), dedicated to defense and confrontation in the streets. You could almost hear the chest-thumping right through the computer screen.
This organization is for those that possess the Warrior Spirit, Chapman wrote. The weak or timid need not apply.
A few days after that, the Proud Boys network, a group that Vice co-founder and former Fox News contributor Gavin McInnes calls a pro-West fraternal organization, posted a notice about the formation of the alt-knights order and a call for strong minded men who are comfortable in fisticuffs to join. I reached out to Chapman in hopes of seeing his warrior spirit for myself. Alas, I ended up disappointed.
Initially, Chapman seemed interested in talking and gave me his phone number. But when I called him, he refused to speak to me, insisting that I email my questions instead. Since then nearly a week has gone by, and Chapman has not answered my emailed questions or any of my follow-up nudges on Facebook. (He has read them, though.) The warrior spirit is apparently not enough to help him tough out a conversation with a journalist about why he believes the world needs the Fraternal Order of the Alt-Knights.
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Turbineguy
(37,319 posts)over the thought of a civil war. They'd love to be able to shoot other Americans without consequences.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)can see the parallels between pre-war gemany-hitler regime and his brownshirts, IF they know their history. Civil War? A lot of people WILL die with the outcome for the racist alt-shirts in serious doubt. People will fight them. If it is Civil War II, then so be it..Just me talking here. Not speaking for anyone else.
We will not be able to play or be civil to these dangerous clowns.
I am in the middle of reading the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Or more correctly, I am listening to it.
It is quite an undertaking at 57+ hours of audio. But I feel compelled to do it under the current circumstances.
I was struck by many of the similarities to the current environment.
However, the existence of the brownshirts is the one major difference that distinguishes now from then. I had heard of the brownshirts but never really understood that they had their own private army of 400,000 thugs.
I cannot even imagine an American political party having that kind of intimidation power.
Clearly, these clowns realize the lack of muscle and want to fill that role. Luckily they have a long way to go.
I still believe "it can't happen here" but things like this are certainly something to look out for.
winstars
(4,220 posts)30's with the Communists...
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Ernst-Rohm
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Thats what the SA was, exactly.
mahigan
(85 posts)Here in Canada we are seeing an increase in "street patrols" run by a group called The Soldiers of Odin. Inspector Dan Jones of the Edmonton City Police has said "If they are the Soldiers of Odin like they are in Europe, we are going to be very concerned," Jones said. "But at this stage, we don't have any reason to believe they have engaged in criminal activity."
[link:http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/soldiers-of-odin-dubbed-extreme-anti-refugee-group-patrol-edmonton-streets-1.3745493|
haele
(12,647 posts)This Fraternal Order of Alt-Knights - will they also be running food kitchens and homeless outreach? Maybe a legal service for protesters, or a protest first-aid kiosk at each event? Otherwise, they deserve the same scorn as Black Bloc in the U.S.
Look, even the Hells Angels call themselves a brotherhood of motorcycle enthusiasts first. The Black Panthers include community organization and charitable outreach in their charter.
Otherwise, Mssrs Chapman and McInnes, you're creating nothing more than a Soccer Hooligan club for Privileged White Twits (or PWTs "Poots" , and should expect to be treated with the same disgust and distain as drunken slackers with nothing better to do.
Haele