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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGeorge Will: Trump has a dangerous disability
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-has-a-dangerous-disability/2017/05/03/56ca6118-2f6b-11e7-9534-00e4656c22aa_story.html?utm_term=.58a09a7bab58Trump has a dangerous disability
By George F. Will Opinion writer May 3 at 7:36 PM
It is urgent for Americans to think and speak clearly about President Trumps inability to do either. This seems to be not a mere disinclination but a disability. It is not merely the result of intellectual sloth but of an untrained mind bereft of information and married to stratospheric self-confidence.
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What is most alarming (and mortifying to the University of Pennsylvania, from which he graduated) is not that Trump has entered his eighth decade unscathed by even elementary knowledge about the nations history. As this column has said before, the problem isnt that he does not know this or that, or that he does not know that he does not know this or that. Rather, the dangerous thing is that he does not know what it is to know something.
The United States is rightly worried that a strange and callow leader controls North Koreas nuclear arsenal. North Korea should reciprocate this worry. Yes, a 70-year-old can be callow if he speaks as sophomorically as Trump did when explaining his solution to Middle Eastern terrorism: I would bomb the s--- out of them. . . . Id blow up the pipes, Id blow up the refineries, Id blow up every single inch, there would be nothing left.
As a candidate, Trump did not know what the nuclear triad is. Asked about it, he said: We have to be extremely vigilant and extremely careful when it comes to nuclear. Nuclear changes the whole ballgame. Invited to elaborate, he said: I think I think, for me, nuclear is just the power, the devastation is very important to me. Someone Trump deemed fit to be a spokesman for him appeared on television to put a tasty dressing on her employers word salad: What good does it do to have a good nuclear triad if youre afraid to use it? To which a retired Army colonel appearing on the same program replied with amazed asperity: The point of the nuclear triad is to be afraid to use the damn thing.
As president-elect, Trump did not know the pedigree and importance of the one-China policy. About such things he can be, if he is willing to be, tutored. It is, however, too late to rectify this defect: He lacks what T.S. Eliot called a sense not only of the pastness of the past, but of its presence. His fathomless lack of interest in Americas path to the present and his limitless gullibility leave him susceptible to being blown about by gusts of factoids that cling like lint to a disorderly mind.
Americans have placed vast military power at the discretion of this mind, a presidential discretion that is largely immune to restraint by the Madisonian system of institutional checks and balances. So, it is up to the public to quarantine this presidency by insistently communicating to its elected representatives a steady, rational fear of this man whose combination of impulsivity and credulity render him uniquely unfit to take the nation into a military conflict.
Orrex
(63,185 posts)Glad to have you on board, George, but you're about 37 years too late.
babylonsister
(171,046 posts)conservatives who will actually listen/read his column.
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)been appalled by a Trump presidency from the beginning. Not appalled enough to leave the party of course but pretty darned appalled.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Or maybe that was David Brooks?
OregonBlue
(7,754 posts)fools but didn't realize he was no longer GOP.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)tblue37
(65,269 posts)he helped lay the groundwork that made possible W, Palin, and Cheato. Without his and other pundits' decades of GOP BS, the low-info and misinformed voters would not be so ignorant, confused, and illogically angry at all the wrong people and all the wrong things .
sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,955 posts)His pedantic tone while espousing intellectually vacuous notions is galling.
Orrex
(63,185 posts)Just ask him.
ProfessorGAC
(64,955 posts)I find it amusing that he is the one talking about someone who doesn't know what he doesn't know.
Mr.Bill
(24,262 posts)not necessarily intelligent. The former is often mistaken for the latter.
Orrex
(63,185 posts)Of course, I'm not a Conservative hack pulling seven figures, but that's my misfortune.
He NEVER found anything good about President Obama, yet he STILL cheered on tRump. Too little, too late.
calimary
(81,179 posts)That God-forsaken side of the aisle won't pay any attention to guys like him now. They've stopped listening to somebody like him, who's finally had his "come-to-Jesus" moment. He's not officially "one of them" anymore. No longer just another in a continuing series of useful-idiot mouthpieces.
Orrex
(63,185 posts)Now that he's usurped the office, they claim that they regret their votes, not least because they've realized that he's hell-bent on destroying everyone outside of the 1%.
Will is doing much the same, in effect wanting to have it both ways. He can play the curmudgeon and cry about the horrors of Trump, but unless he's personally going to impeach Trump, then he can shut the hell up. Granted, he posted some screeds against Trump in the run-up to the election, but I don't recall him penning any pro-Clinton declarations, either.
Strictly speaking, very little is visible now that wasn't plainly visible before they cast their ballots, but somehow they all had their epiphanies after it was too late to do anything about it. Well, fuck them. Fuck every last one of those stupid racist fuckheads. Fuck them.
erronis
(15,216 posts)sharedvalues
(6,916 posts)One way to amplify the message of cognitive disability could be through Penn.
Penn must be VERY afraid of a PR disaster. Imagine if many people started saying "Penn admitted someone who is this morally and intellectually flawed??". That would be a trainwreck for Penn and would damage their ability to recruit top students. Penn would have to fight back in the press -- which would only raise the profile of the cognitive disability.
So if people want to get this president out, they can start saying "Penn admitted someone who is this morally and intellectually flawed?? Penn must only care about money, and must let in any rich student."
former9thward
(31,961 posts)If universities are held to account for every graduate for their entire lives there would not be a single university that would make it out alive.
VOX
(22,976 posts)It all comes back to fundraising and MONEY. Successful alums are always tracked for multi-million-dollar naming gifts, scholarships, etc. Having an alum become president of the U.S. is a very big deal for that school. The image-boosting name is included in student materials, alumni publications, donor newsletters, etc. Eventually, a university often grants an honorary doctorate or an aumnus of the year award. That makes for many events, to which many influential friends of the honoree would attend-- all of it done with fundraising in mind.
Of course, none of the above will apply to #45, a first-class, loudmouth jerk who's pretty toxic in terms of generating any good feelings, unless history is completely rewritten sometime in the future.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)DFW
(54,326 posts)I never even knew Trump was a fellow Penn alum until it was mentioned in the 2016 campaign. The University alumni communications I received certainly never made such a big deal out of Trump having gone there that I ever saw anything about it.
The high school in Massachusetts I graduated from made a bigger deal about W when he was awarded the presidency in December 2000. They got a LOT less proud of it as his presidency turned into a catastrophe. Ironic historical note--his dad, also an alum, was the one who gave me my "alumni interview." You could tell that Bush, Sr. had bad judgment--he recommended they let me in!
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)did Daddy Trump make a nice donation to Penn to ensure little Donny got into the school? Back then, if you had wealthy donor parents, you could skate by not attending classes and still get the "Gentleman's C" as a grade in all your classes.
tblue37
(65,269 posts)even though his peers said he skipped class and horsed around in the back when he did bother to show up.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)but, W was supposedly rejected by the University of Texas, so he decided to go to Harvard instead...
Nay
(12,051 posts)order to siphon off some of the family's money. No university is going to get a black eye for tolerating a Trump. Plenty of rich idiots/psychopaths/amoral people have marched through college.
SharonAnn
(13,772 posts)MrPurple
(985 posts)He transferred to Penn in his junior year, I think. One of his lies (it's easier to point out things he says that aren't lies) was that he said that he graduated top in his class at Penn, but when the dean's list was reviewed, he wasn't on it a single semester that he attended. Given everything in his disposition, I doubt he focused on school work much at all and was passed through doing next to nothing.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)janterry
(4,429 posts)I'm more interested in why our Congress is so broken. Many (perhaps most) of the republicans deplore Trump - and yet they continue to make peace with their devil...............
How can we continue as a democracy if there is no check on insanity? They know he is unfit - and yet they remain silent. They need to be held accountable on our opinion pages, too. There is no excuse for what they are allowing.
Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Well Will, you got that right,.
But you could have said it in about 25 words. It's not like you're getting paid by the word, don'tcha know.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)I like the way he writes.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Ever read MEN AT WORK?
VOX
(22,976 posts)The dreaded liberal left (gasp!) knew this guy was a seething head-case years ago when he was delving into birther crap with paranoiac zeal. Glad you could make it to the club, finally...now that he's PRESIDENT. Thanks a pantload.
malaise
(268,845 posts)an untrained mind bereft of information and married to stratospheric self-confidence.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)Strange times. Strange bedfellows.
Gothmog
(145,046 posts)Missn-Hitch
(1,383 posts)calimary
(81,179 posts)If he still votes with them and supports them over Democrats (or hell, any other party or group for that matter), then he hasn't really "left the GOP." As Rachel keeps reminding: "Don't listen to what they say. Watch what they DO."
erronis
(15,216 posts)Shrouded behind a lot of proxies. We can't follow the money anymore. Who is really paying George Will to make these statements?
Random twits and posts and editorial comments on ru.com have become the way for a group to try to influence the real world.
Personally I never felt that Will or a lot of other left/right blowhards were real people. Their POV depended on the moneybags, or in the case of raving fanatics their own loopy brain circuits.
Mea culpas from 70+ year-old pundits are worth their weight in dried-up poop.
babylonsister
(171,046 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,711 posts)Fixed.
GoCubsGo
(32,078 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Sunlei
(22,651 posts)University of Pennsylvania records and where was Donald exactly during those years?
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)3catwoman3
(23,965 posts)...and "stratospheric self-confidence" descriptions.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)Instead of a briefing book on every issue, he gets ONE PAGE. There must be bullet items. There must be no more than 9 points maximum.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,986 posts)So he goes from one extreme to the opposite.
"We are behind NATO 100%."
"NATO is obsolete."
Mike Nelson
(9,949 posts)...I trust Will's essay included praise for Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton pointing the unfitness out earlier.
Danmel
(4,911 posts)The fundamental cause of the trouble in the modern world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.Bertrand Russell.
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)This guy may be a conservative, but he very articulately describes the dilemma we face with this man. Mic drop!
yellowcanine
(35,698 posts)While the last two Democratic Presidents have been well educated and well spoken.
KG
(28,751 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)what it is to know something."
"His fathomless lack of interest in Americas path to the present and his limitless gullibility leave him susceptible to being blown about by gusts of factoids that cling like lint to a disorderly mind."
Will abandoned intellectual honesty with the rest of his sort in an attempt to maintain position with his people, but he is still occasionally willing to express an obvious truth well.
usaf-vet
(6,178 posts)have shown zero interest in what the majority of their constituents have to say. They hold be invitation only town hall meetings. Or last minute scheduled meetings. Or stand in front of prescreened crowds to get a sound bite on the evening news. Add that to gerrymander secure seats and you have a brick wall to talk to.
Right Rep Sean Duffy and Senator Ron Johnson?
lpbk2713
(42,750 posts)I had to double check that it was authored by George Will.
Maraya1969
(22,474 posts)Wednesdays
(17,331 posts)because no one will try to prosecute a doddering old coot.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)He knew that Trump was trouble from the start. Once Trump got the republican nomination, people like Will and other republicans that were repulsed by him should have come out in guilty voice saying that they would vote for Clinton and explaining why.
babylonsister
(171,046 posts)George Will: NAY
The dean of conservative columnists has left the Republican Party over Trumps nomination, saying, This is not my party. (June 26, 2016)
Will detests Trump, and had previously called for Republicans to defeat him if he is their nominee: Were he to be nominated, conservatives would have two tasks. One would be to help him lose 50 statescondign punishment for his comprehensive disdain for conservative essentials, including the manners and grace that should lubricate the nations civic life. (April 29, 2016)
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/11/where-republicans-stand-on-donald-trump-a-cheat-sheet/481449/
Which Republicans Oppose Donald Trump? A Cheat Sheet
And this ^^^ is a longgg read. Lots happened since then-minds changed.
lillypaddle
(9,580 posts)but he has this one in the bag. Glad to see him appearing as a contributor on MSNBC, and I never thought I would say that.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)bora13
(860 posts)got it written in radium ink all over his con face
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)A few other GOP'ers do, too. So far they have refused to normalize him. This is a great read.
"quarantine this presidency"...wow, has any journalist ever had to write this before? Sad.
Ligyron
(7,622 posts)"His fathomless lack of interest in Americas path to the present and his limitless gullibility leave him susceptible to being blown about by gusts of factoids that cling like lint to a disorderly mind."
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Like a contagious form of epilepsy, or a mental illness that runs a person into a raving mass killer, or captain Hook and his threatening prosthetic, Freddy Kruger and his deformity....
That's a messed up bigoted headline, and though not surprising anymore, it's disappointing when DUers endorse and cheer at the sight of it.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Nitram
(22,776 posts)"It is urgent for Americans to think and speak clearly about President Trumps inability to do either. "
Too bad Will is otherwise a climate change denying intellectually dishonest partisan hack, who always has to put gratuitous slur against liberals no matter what the topic.