Has the G.O.P. Kicked Open a Health Care Hornets Nest?

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WASHINGTON — No one knows better than House Democrats how a contentious health care vote can exact a steep political price — losing control of the House in the first midterm election of an untested new president’s tenure for example.

As they hooted derisively at their Republican colleagues on Thursday after a narrow, party-line approval of legislation to roll back the Obama-era health care law, Democrats glimpsed the mirror image of their own politically disastrous health care experience. They also saw a prime opportunity to avenge their ugly 2010 loss and possibly recapture the House majority.

“I think they are staring death in the face,” Representative Gerald E. Connolly, Democrat of Virginia, said about the political prospects of dozens of House Republicans who were persuaded to back the bill by Republican leaders anxious to deliver a legislative win. “They asked their vulnerable members to take an enormous gamble and risk on an act of faith that I guarantee will not pay off.”

Relieved Republicans celebrated on the House floor and at the White House and said they had been in danger of retaliation from their own conservative base if they had not delivered on the pledge to repeal the law they had been promising to strike from the books for seven years. They say their candidates will have the experience and resources to fight off Democratic challengers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/05/us/politics/house-democrats-health-repeal-republicans.html?_r=0

[Cha]

1. No doubt.. the more they gulped on beer to celebrate

sickness and death for their constituents.. the more hornets got kicked.

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[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. They take out their exemption to LOUD fanfare and SNEAK it back in again. + tax cut for 2%. . nt

[Cha]

12. And, of course, the useless M$M won't tell their voters

shite about it.

[dalton99a]

17. And not a word from the media.

[mcar]

13. I got mine, screw you

The mission statement of the Republican party.

[brer cat]

21. Exactly.

I would love to see that on bumper stickers all over America. Even red state dimwits should be able to read that much.

[Miles Archer]

2. None of this will mean one damn thing until the stories of sick and dying people start flooding

Face it, there's nothing we know today that we did not know during the primaries, the general election, and well before that.

The people who voted for Trump turned a blind eye to all of it, believed his promises on health care, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security.

Now we have "frightened" red-hat folks, and for some of them, the gravity of this still hasn't sunk in.

"Relieved Republicans celebrated on the House floor and at the White House and said they had been in danger of retaliation from their own conservative base if they had not delivered on the pledge to repeal the law they had been promising to strike from the books for seven years."

This was all dog-and-pony show. The path to this ending up on Trump's desk for signature is long and twisted.

"Their own conservative base" is so effing clueless that they see this as something more than a "symbolic victory."

This won't hurt Republicans until Republican voters get hurt. When they can no longer get medical treatment, or can't get it at all, then they'll get angry, and then Trump will tell them it's all Obama's fault.

[HoneyBadger]

6. Judging by the response of the stock market thus far

The vote was not a big deal. Trump has numbed America to Trump. This includes all sides. Except for the extreme few percent, most just look out the corner of their eye and go along with their life. I was at the gym yesterday. Normally when a Trump story comes on, people get vocal. Yesterday, everyone ignored it.

[BlueJac]

7. So true....

but I still think they will vote for them, they ALWAYS do.

[Kablooie]

9. You're right. It's just the 51st showboating fake vote to kill Obamacare.

Unless it becomes law it won't have any more effect than the past stupid votes.
They are dancing for their base with no real expectation of Success.

[kentuck]

3. Maybe so...

This is Trumpcare.

We'll see.

[Vinca]

4. Yes and Dear Leader contributed bigly to it when he said Australian health care was better

than ours. Why is he heading us in the opposite direction if that is the case????

[greymattermom]

5. Because he wants to be a winner

and doesn't care what he wins. But this will be a good question for press conferences for some time. Basically, you told the Australian prime minister that Australia has better heath care than the US. If you believe that, why don't you fight for a system like they have?

[Scarsdale]

8. Why?

Because he has no idea what he is doing, not a clue. The man is dumber than a box of rocks, just the way the gop likes their presidents to be. I hope they enjoyed their beer bash (likely taxpayer funded?) Next election should be EPIC, if the low intelligence people who voted for Agent Orange are affected, and realize what happened to their healthcare.

[HoneyBadger]

16. I suspect because Australia is a different country

With different government, taxes, big pharma, doctor salaries, etc. Changing healthcare alone does not take into account how it fits in with the remainder of the system. I could fix US healthcare in a minute if we dumped big pharma and US salaries. Ie the Cuban healthcare system. Which is vastly superior to Australia and the US.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

11. House Cons want Senate to kill it or let die in reconciliation committee. Have their cake & eat it.

[Ligyron]

14. When was this bill supposed to go into effect?

Wasn't it like 2 years from now? If so, then the dumb ass goobers won't feel pain 'til after the next election cycle.

[madokie]

19. And that is why

they put this going into effect off for 2 years.

Fuck me a running, we're fucked once again I'm afraid.

[forgotmylogin]

15. Republicans for 2018: Killing your Family Members

[world wide wally]

18. It won't really sink in with Trump voters until they have to actually start shopping for insurance

again and it all smacks them upside the head.
By the way... Where does it say anything about insurance companies in the Constitution?

[IronLionZion]

20. Obamacare has gotten more popular since Obama left office

a lot of people like the patient protections and coverage they've been getting and know someone who has benefitted. They just don't like the Obama part. A lot of Trumpsters had lost their jobs but were able to get insurance through the ACA, especially if this happened later in life before they qualify for Medicare, or if someone in their family has pre-existing conditions. The success stories need to keep coming and gain some media coverage.

The GOP should just make some superficial edits, rename it Trumpcare, and call it a win.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

22. Kick