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bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
Fri May 5, 2017, 08:27 PM May 2017

Trump team copied documents and removed them from SCIF





WASHINGTON (AP) — In late November, a member of Donald Trump’s transition team approached national security officials in the Obama White House with a curious request: Could the incoming team get a copy of the classified CIA profile on Sergey Kislyak, Russia’s ambassador to the United States?

Marshall Billingslea, a former Pentagon and NATO official, wanted the information for his boss, Michael Flynn, who had been tapped by Trump to serve as White House national security adviser. Billingslea knew Flynn would be speaking to Kislyak, according to two former Obama administration officials, and seemed concerned Flynn did not fully understand he was dealing with a man rumored to have ties to Russian intelligence agencies.

To the Obama White House, Billingslea’s concerns were startling: a member of Trump’s own team suggesting the incoming Trump administration might be in over its head in dealing with an adversary.

The request now stands out as a warning signal for Obama officials who would soon see Flynn’s contacts with the Russian spiral into a controversy that would cost him his job and lead to a series of shocking accusations hurled by Trump against his predecessor’s administration.

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https://apnews.com/b109774705594ae887a86b337c444e6b/Trump-transition-raised-flags-about-Flynn-Russia-contacts
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Trump team copied documents and removed them from SCIF (Original Post) bathroommonkey76 May 2017 OP
Drip. applegrove May 2017 #1
So In One Sense Me. May 2017 #2
KGOP traitors suck Achilleaze May 2017 #3
not much we can do about it besides what we're doing onit2day May 2017 #7
Wasn't there an administration official supervising? Tatiana May 2017 #4
There are legitimate reasons to photocopy material in a SCIF jmowreader May 2017 #13
But her emails! TeamPooka May 2017 #5
Treason anyone? BarbD May 2017 #6
If by 'flirting you mean 'wallowing,' then yes Maynar May 2017 #17
We have a SCIF at work. If I did this, haele May 2017 #21
I read the article and still don't Ilsa May 2017 #8
Yeah I didn't see anything to support the title either Norbert9 May 2017 #10
What do you mean? This supports it: pnwmom May 2017 #11
There is ambiguity here Norbert9 May 2017 #14
I assumed the latter--but both would be highly illegal. People have gone to prison for these crimes. pnwmom May 2017 #15
A SCIF is a secure room for viewing classified documents. And the article says this: pnwmom May 2017 #12
Not just "viewing" them jmowreader May 2017 #18
That may be a real SCIF, but it's not the only kind. pnwmom May 2017 #19
Wow SunSeeker May 2017 #9
K & R L. Coyote May 2017 #16
The transition team was making copies of sensitive information and carrying it out? kentuck May 2017 #20

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
3. KGOP traitors suck
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:04 PM
May 2017

Where they giving that information to the Russians?

The Republican Congress is failing America, refusing to lift even as much as a finger to stop the Russian infiltration and manipulatioN. It's a shameful dereliction of duty

 

onit2day

(1,201 posts)
7. not much we can do about it besides what we're doing
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:33 PM
May 2017

resist, stay informed, challenge these bigots

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
4. Wasn't there an administration official supervising?
Fri May 5, 2017, 09:05 PM
May 2017

Someone who might have said, ummm this is a SCIF... you can't photocopy this material?

This gets stranger and stranger.

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
13. There are legitimate reasons to photocopy material in a SCIF
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:18 PM
May 2017

What there is NEVER a legitimate reason to do is exactly what Trump's team did: courier the photocopies from a secure facility to an unsecure one. I think the Trump people, who have a LOT of contacts within Russia, took that information straight to the Russian Ambassador.

haele

(12,627 posts)
21. We have a SCIF at work. If I did this,
Sat May 6, 2017, 01:03 AM
May 2017

I'd not only lose my clearance, I'd never be able to work in my field again. My family members or good friends would be flagged if they wanted to get any sort of Security Clearance.
And I'd be facing up to 5 years in a Federal facility just for my stupidity.
If you get the clearance to work in a SCIF, you have to get the training before you can walk through the door. There's no way you wouldn't know that you can't take material out without all sorts of paperwork, security processing, and packing. And you would probably have a minder if you weren't a Trusted Agent with years of background checks in your resume.
People need to go to jail. This is criminal stupidity.

Haele

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
11. What do you mean? This supports it:
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:11 PM
May 2017
The outgoing White House also became concerned about the Trump team’s handling of classified information. After learning that highly sensitive documents from a secure room at the transition’s Washington headquarters were being copied and removed from the facility, Obama’s national security team decided to only allow the transition officials to view some information at the White House, including documents on the government’s contingency plans for crises.
 

Norbert9

(494 posts)
14. There is ambiguity here
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:18 PM
May 2017

Does "copied and removed" mean copied and then deleted or just removing the copies from the building once copied? There is a difference, though both appear illegal. The title implies deleting IMO.

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
15. I assumed the latter--but both would be highly illegal. People have gone to prison for these crimes.
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:20 PM
May 2017

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
12. A SCIF is a secure room for viewing classified documents. And the article says this:
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:13 PM
May 2017
The outgoing White House also became concerned about the Trump team’s handling of classified information. After learning that highly sensitive documents from a secure room at the transition’s Washington headquarters were being copied and removed from the facility, Obama’s national security team decided to only allow the transition officials to view some information at the White House, including documents on the government’s contingency plans for crises.

jmowreader

(50,520 posts)
18. Not just "viewing" them
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:36 PM
May 2017

A SCIF (it means Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility) is an extremely highly secured workspace. Most of the places people are calling SCIFs are not actually SCIFs. There's a standard for a real SCIF, and it's unbelievable - the gold in Fort Knox isn't secured that well.

This is a SCIF...

pnwmom

(108,950 posts)
19. That may be a real SCIF, but it's not the only kind.
Sat May 6, 2017, 12:26 AM
May 2017
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sensitive_Compartmented_Information_Facility

Construction[edit]

Some entire buildings are SCIFs where all but the front foyer is secure. A SCIF can also be located in an air, ground or maritime vehicle, or can be established on a temporary basis at a specific site. The physical construction, access control, and alarming of the facility has been defined by various directives, including Director of Central Intelligence Directives (DCIDs) 1/21 and 6/9, and most recently (2011) by Intelligence Community Directive (ICD) 705, signed by the Director of National Intelligence. ICD 705 is a three-page capstone document that implements Intelligence Community Standard (ICS) 705-1, ICS 705-2 and the Technical Specifications for Construction and Management of Sensitive Compartmented Information Facilities or "Tech Specs." The latest version of the Tech Specs was published in September 2015 (Version 1.3).

Computers operating within such a facility must conform to rules established by ICD 503. Computers and telecommunication equipment within must conform to TEMPEST emanations specification as directed by a Certified TEMPEST Technical Authority (CTTA).

kentuck

(111,035 posts)
20. The transition team was making copies of sensitive information and carrying it out?
Sat May 6, 2017, 12:26 AM
May 2017

They did not behave as innocent individuals...

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