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Chump supporters are cult members who are like jim jones supporters (Original Post) kimbutgar May 2017 OP
And on their deathbeds Bettie May 2017 #1
That's the whole thing about cults canetoad May 2017 #2
I support their right to mass suicide. LOL Lib May 2017 #3
Can we get them to line up now? dembotoz May 2017 #17
King CON Grassy Knoll May 2017 #4
I'm currently reading PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #5
I heard an interview with the author of that book earlier in the week Docreed2003 May 2017 #10
Wow. Thank you for sharing your personal connection. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #12
His Manson book is pretty incredible, if you haven't read it. Docreed2003 May 2017 #14
I will need to read his Manson book. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2017 #15
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #6
Well you don't necessarily need to leave this world...but oasis May 2017 #8
Been dipping into the meth, I see. MrScorpio May 2017 #9
I think they prefer we drink the Kool Aid and just die. kairos12 May 2017 #7
I think you're on to something. nt Laffy Kat May 2017 #11
Yes, they have been brainwashed. Liberal In Texas May 2017 #13
It seems so. Maybe they'll wake up when their insurance premium comes due and it's Vinca May 2017 #16
That also describes Susan Sarandon... a brainwashed CULT mentality also accounts for the... NurseJackie May 2017 #18

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
1. And on their deathbeds
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:28 PM
May 2017

they will thank their Orange messiah for saving them...from living in a decent world.

canetoad

(17,152 posts)
2. That's the whole thing about cults
Fri May 5, 2017, 10:47 PM
May 2017

And Amway, some churches, Silver's Seminars, Landmark Forum and so on; they work very hard to break down your critical thinking so you are susceptible to the message.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
5. I'm currently reading
Fri May 5, 2017, 11:55 PM
May 2017
The Road to Jonestone: Jim Jones and the Peoples Temple by Jeff Guinn. Absolutely fascinating. Jones actually started out sincerely believing in Socialism. He was also, rather early on, willing to fake things like faith healing. It's going to be interesting watch him change into the man who oversaw the death of nearly 1,000 people in a Jungle in Guyana.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
10. I heard an interview with the author of that book earlier in the week
Sat May 6, 2017, 01:50 AM
May 2017

On the Michelangelo Singorile show on XM Progress. It was absolutely fascinating and I really want to read the book now. I think the Trump analogy is entirely spot on. As an aside, I've always had a special interest in the Jonestown incident. My grandmother's sister was an early member of Jone's People's Temple, even moving with the church to California. She did not, however, make the transition to Jonestown. Its frightening how easily people can be swept up in such brainwashing tactics.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
12. Wow. Thank you for sharing your personal connection.
Sat May 6, 2017, 01:57 AM
May 2017

Jeff Guinn is an amazing writer. So far the book is an incredible read. I believe I read his book on Bonnie and Clyde a few years ago, and I'm hoping to read more of his work. Luckily, my library (my main source of reading material) has several others of his.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
14. His Manson book is pretty incredible, if you haven't read it.
Sat May 6, 2017, 02:14 AM
May 2017

It's funny, I hadn't really thought about Jonestown for a long time until I heard that interview and now I'm ready to run off to B&N and pick up the book.

To flesh out my earlier point a little bit, my great aunt started attending services with him in Indianapolis. My grandmother visited her sisters there pretty regularly and actually went to the church on a couple of occasions. It's fascinating to me that two sisters who were so close in beliefs would come away with such diametrically opposite viewpoints. Jones's charisma and his passion for civil rights resonated with my great aunt, while my grandmother saw through the facade and was truly frightened by the man.

I think the story speaks to the power of charismatic, authoritarian leaders and it should scare all of us that Trump shares so many similar qualities.

Thanks for the Bonnie and Clyde book recommendation. I'll definitely check it out too!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
15. I will need to read his Manson book.
Sat May 6, 2017, 04:06 AM
May 2017

My library has it.

Sigh. So many books, so little time.

I like to say that I want very much to believe in an afterlife and that there are libraries there. And eternity to read books.

Honestly, without invoking the possibility of an afterlife, I'm rather crazed by how many books are published every year. I cannot begin to keep up with them all. It might help if I had limited interests, such as one good friend who reads mysteries and only mysteries, but no, I read almost everything. Sigh.

I could consider a form of censorship. Not for content. Because, for instance, just because I never read Westerns, I wouldn't want to arbitrarily stop publishing them. But could we PLEASE limit the new books to no more than, oh, say, a thousand per year? Even then I couldn't keep up, but I could console myself with thoughts of the afterlife.

Response to kimbutgar (Original post)

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
13. Yes, they have been brainwashed.
Sat May 6, 2017, 02:01 AM
May 2017

Constant TV tuned to FOX Newchannel. If not that, AM radio.

They don't read. They tend to not be very intelligent when you talk to them.

It's sad, but this is destroying our country. And they have no idea.



Vinca

(50,269 posts)
16. It seems so. Maybe they'll wake up when their insurance premium comes due and it's
Sat May 6, 2017, 06:46 AM
May 2017

thousands of dollars more with fewer benefits.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
18. That also describes Susan Sarandon... a brainwashed CULT mentality also accounts for the...
Sat May 6, 2017, 09:15 AM
May 2017

... irrational hatred, contempt and fear of Hillary Clinton.




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