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The Coup is Complete (Original Post) Cryptoad May 2017 OP
No. Stop with the defeatism. Now. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #1
They consolidated all the power Cryptoad May 2017 #5
No. They got a lot. Far from "all". Binary thinking is a fallacy and plays into defeatism. . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #7
It's an attempted coup. Tatiana May 2017 #2
Right?? wildeyed May 2017 #4
Russians fill the street Cryptoad May 2017 #6
Then move to Russia if you think they are ahead of the curve. Americans will resist, persist, & win Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #9
U move to Russia Cryptoad May 2017 #11
Defeatism is rude. I don't like it. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #13
No you have offer no valid Cryptoad May 2017 #16
There is a lot to do, but you've already surrendered to Putin-Bannon. Suggestions to you? Too late. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #17
Do tell,,,,, Cryptoad May 2017 #19
Then perhaps today's breaking news may dissuade you LanternWaste May 2017 #20
Nothing has changed today that Cryptoad May 2017 #21
What a crock binary thinking is; the all-or-nothing "we don't do nuance" thinking. Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #43
Yet Steve Bannon continues Cryptoad May 2017 #44
Of course he does. . . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #45
Yes. I'm not giving up and I still will vote! mvd May 2017 #34
They already are waking up, compadre. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #38
Good news! mvd May 2017 #41
Lol! wildeyed May 2017 #14
No it won't. Phoenix61 May 2017 #29
+1. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #8
If there was a coup wouldn't they disrupt the internet and media? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #28
Witnessing those people at the airports brought tears to my eyes. Tatiana May 2017 #12
They dont have to run psyops anymore Cryptoad May 2017 #18
Not while I am alive. irisblue May 2017 #3
There are worse things than being dead. wildeyed May 2017 #15
Question for Press Sec. Spicer: Has the president canceled the 2018 elections? nt NCjack May 2017 #10
Game over man, game over.... FSogol May 2017 #22
Tokyo Rose? DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #23
I drank some of Tokyo Rose Wine once.... Cryptoad May 2017 #25
Now I know who I don't want to share my foxhole with. nt oasis May 2017 #24
You got that chit right! Cryptoad May 2017 #26
It would smell like pee pee and doo doo. DemocratSinceBirth May 2017 #27
Unacceptable Lotusflower70 May 2017 #30
...and yet, you're freely complaining about it on an online blog... brooklynite May 2017 #31
This Coup is going DOWN! get the red out May 2017 #32
Just when things were getting funny C_U_L8R May 2017 #33
Are you using tge word coup figuratively? Trump came to power KingCharlemagne May 2017 #35
Why so easily defeated ? Oh yee, of little faith. nocalflea May 2017 #36
No patience, eh? Watergate break-in: 1972. Nixon resignation: 1974. WinkyDink May 2017 #37
Yes, but it's the sloppiest coup ever. VOX May 2017 #39
We, as a country have faced down challenges before NastyRiffraff May 2017 #40
I Agree With OP SoCalMusicLover May 2017 #42
I am going to fight Trompe to the bitter end bdjhawk May 2017 #46

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,960 posts)
1. No. Stop with the defeatism. Now.
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:49 PM
May 2017

Get some perspective for . sake. This is like Nixon firing in 1973.

The Democrats increased seats in 1974 and elected Carter in 1976.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
5. They consolidated all the power
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:57 PM
May 2017

there is nothing to stop them. If we have an election in 18 it will be like the Russian's elections.......

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
2. It's an attempted coup.
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:50 PM
May 2017

But it has NOT succeeded.

There are many people fighting back, including those career employees in our federal government who love their country.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
4. Right??
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:53 PM
May 2017

We POURED into the streets over the Muslim Ban. Made their lives living hell on ACA repeal. We are just getting started. Americans don't accept tyranny. It's not in our national character. Good luck shutting all of us up.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
6. Russians fill the street
Tue May 9, 2017, 08:59 PM
May 2017

be it doesnt change the fact that Putin has all the Power....... it will be the same here....

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
16. No you have offer no valid
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:16 PM
May 2017

action that will break up their "complete" consolidation of POWER. Realism is not defeatism.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
20. Then perhaps today's breaking news may dissuade you
Thu May 11, 2017, 03:21 PM
May 2017

Then perhaps today's breaking news may dissuade you your negativism and submission to prophecy and telling a future as predicated on bias.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,960 posts)
43. What a crock binary thinking is; the all-or-nothing "we don't do nuance" thinking.
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:49 PM
May 2017

              [font size = "+1"]Nobody[/font] has absolute power.


mvd

(65,161 posts)
34. Yes. I'm not giving up and I still will vote!
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:04 PM
May 2017

Russia doesn't have the history of democracy that the US does. It may take too much, and I am very disappointed in the intelligence of too many voters, but I feel that America will wake up.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
14. Lol!
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:13 PM
May 2017

What in the history of the USA leads you to believe that? Russia is a fascinating country with a rich cultural history, but all they do is get ground into the earth by authoritarian leaders. USA, not so much...

You are like the Eeyore of the resistance. Have fun with that!

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
29. No it won't.
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:46 PM
May 2017

Russia had very little experience in being a democracy. If you think the government can pass laws and make people obey you have forgotten what happened during prohibition. It didn't stop people from drinking at all, alcohol consumption actually went up. We are a nation based on the rule of law. That is still very much in place.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,708 posts)
28. If there was a coup wouldn't they disrupt the internet and media?
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:44 PM
May 2017

My internet connection is fine and I am watching CNN basically call Trump a liar.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
12. Witnessing those people at the airports brought tears to my eyes.
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:09 PM
May 2017

Last edited Tue May 9, 2017, 11:46 PM - Edit history (1)

This country is full of good people, who care about their fellow men and women and are willing to defend them no matter the cost (Sally Yates got fired over the Muslim Ban).

You're right. It's not in our national character, in spite of Russian psyops to change our values and beliefs.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
18. They dont have to run psyops anymore
Tue May 9, 2017, 09:20 PM
May 2017

They have now Complete absolute power. If u think an armed revolution is possible u need to rethink that.

FSogol

(45,448 posts)
22. Game over man, game over....
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:33 PM
May 2017




Checks and Balances, man. Give them time to work. Watergate from the break in to the resignation took 2 years and more stuff came out for a couple of years. Trumpy and company are going down, it just won't happen overnight.

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
30. Unacceptable
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:48 PM
May 2017

I won't kiss it goodbye. This is my country damn It! The judges across the country are part of the checks and balances. The press is part of the checks and balances. We the people are part of the checks and balances. The Constitution is part of the checks and balances. We have to keep fighting. There future generations counting on us. I understand the despair but dig deep for the long battle.

get the red out

(13,460 posts)
32. This Coup is going DOWN!
Thu May 11, 2017, 04:54 PM
May 2017

I was rather defeatist until Comey was fired, Trump threw a cow pasture against the fan with that one!

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
35. Are you using tge word coup figuratively? Trump came to power
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:08 PM
May 2017

Via constitutional means, i.e., not a coup. Or just what do you mean?

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
36. Why so easily defeated ? Oh yee, of little faith.
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:08 PM
May 2017

Do you not see the insult in your despair? Think of all who have died for this country - giving up does not honor them - or us.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
39. Yes, but it's the sloppiest coup ever.
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:14 PM
May 2017

Rank amateurs who (at the moment) have power ONLY due to their greater breathing body-count. At most, only 1/3 of Americans back these assholes right now.

Their grip on power is temporary. The task is to hinder them at the control panel until they can be voted out. Or dragged out by law enforcement. Fortunately for the country, they've alienated too many enforcers to have a lock in that area.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
40. We, as a country have faced down challenges before
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:14 PM
May 2017

The Revolutionary War which could easily have gone the other way. The Civil War which tested whether we would be a nation or just a collection of states. The Nixon constitutional crisis, to name just a few.

We won't back down because of of the Orange Idiot. We got this. It won't be quick, or easy, but we got it.

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
42. I Agree With OP
Thu May 11, 2017, 05:35 PM
May 2017

It's not over until the fat lady sings.

But if it looks like she's about to start, I'm sure they'll take care of her, like they did Comey.

This is not like frickin' Watergate. We have NO MEDIA. We have NO REASONABLE CONGRESS MEMBERS. We have less than half of the Supreme Court.

But thankfully, we'll all still be here posting in a few years, talking about the "change" that's a comin'. Smoke 'em if ya got 'em.

bdjhawk

(420 posts)
46. I am going to fight Trompe to the bitter end
Thu May 11, 2017, 10:48 PM
May 2017

but I share in the pessimism. FAUX News and soon to be even bigger Sinclair have the right wing minions following blindly-- note the silence from these "patriots" who went into loud hysterics over minor issues like when BO wore a tan suit and Michelle wore a sleeveless dress, yet remain silent while Russians are literally in the Oval Office. Having these minions who will support/not protest Trompe just empowers the Repugs in Congress to not address the serious issues facing our country.

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