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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think Trump is gonna seriously regret messing with the FBI
Many in the Bureau reportedly devastated by this- not just the firing but how it was handled. If Trump thought this was gonna to take pressure off him w/regards to the Russia Investigations he's gonna be seriously disappointed.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,966 posts)TDale313
(7,820 posts)These aren't people you wanna cross.
bdamomma
(63,803 posts)to see the FBI and the CIA go after his a$$. Don't mess with Intelligence Community.....
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)LibraLiz1973
(8,197 posts)He just keeps lopping them at the knees-- and that includes us.
The republicans in power are complicit. This is a huge issue.
onecaliberal
(32,786 posts)Bettie
(16,077 posts)but they run everything right now. They can stop anything and there isn't anything we can do about it.
They will destroy everything and dance on the ashes.
woodsprite
(11,905 posts)Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)It is only a matter of time before he orders the death of Americans. I have been predicting this order to come once he transformed into full on dictator. Today he took a big step towards removing the pretense and suspending democracy.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)None of them actually thought this would be the media bombshell it has turned into. They thought Democrats would be excited, and no one would really care.
Apparently not a single person in this White House has an IQ over 80 nor have they studied history and what happened with Nixon.
And welcome to DU!
Goodheart
(5,308 posts)I think Trump is stupid enough to have believed that Democrats would applaud this move. They tried to get cute and they miscalculated BIGLY.
calimary
(81,127 posts)trump is still operating on the assumption that this is just another family-run business.
I can't even count how many times I've had this argument with people who insist that "government should be run like a BIZNISS." Maybe after we've all spent this time living through this shit, I won't have such a hard time making this point anymore.
They're Just. NOT. The. Same. Thing. Dammit!
oasis
(49,338 posts)that would square things with Democrats.
What he actually kicked was a hornet's nest.
Flaleftist
(3,473 posts)bdamomma
(63,803 posts)Welcome to DU
He has a very low opinion of the American people and this country.
6000eliot
(5,643 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Did someone at some point say "gee this might look funny firing the FBI Dir in the middle of an investigation of us."
OliverQ
(3,363 posts)They thought Dems would be happy about it, and they're clearly oblivious to the Nixon situation.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Amaryllis
(9,524 posts)greyl
(22,990 posts)Last edited Wed May 10, 2017, 10:30 PM - Edit history (1)
They knew, but determined that the shallow argument "Democrats didn't like Comey, so they're hypocrites to complain" would be strong enough for their shallow base to believe.
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KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)I honestly don't know who has the most juice in the FBI.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,615 posts)regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)If he had messed with them, I wouldn't have been surprised to see him meet with a "tragic accident" or completely-unforeseen "natural causes." The FBI, by contrast, tends to avoid extrajudicial actions.
Of course, where the rubber will meet the road is when Trump's appointee takes over, and demands all evidence be sent to him for review and "safe-keeping"...
FakeNoose
(32,599 posts)Trump has done NOTHING to endear himself to those folks.
They'll be happy to bury him anyway they can. They already have the evidence they need to put the guy in jail. The reason we know that is they didn't offer Flynn immunity for his testimony. Flynn knows plenty but the Feds don't need him, they can convict Trump without him.
Does that tell you anything? It speaks volumes to me. They're all going down.
calimary
(81,127 posts)John Schindler ✔@20committee
Now we go nuclear. IC war going to new levels. Just got an EM fm senior IC friend, it began: "He will die in jail."
Link to tweet
6:27 AM - 15 Feb 2017
FakeNoose
(32,599 posts)The "Steele report" was circulating last fall, even before the election. The British, German and Israeli intelligence agencies are all telling us they have the goods on Trump colluding with Putin.
Steele is the British spy who has contacts with the Russians and reported on all of this. The report was shared with our CIA and FBI early in the Fall (before the election). They've been following the story (follow the money) for at least 6 months now and they pretty much have what they need to bury Trump.
Just because we haven't seen it yet, doesn't mean they don't have it.
It's all a matter of time now.
calimary
(81,127 posts)Seems so. I've heard the speculation for awhile now that the reason nobody's jumped to give Michael Flynn immunity for his "story to tell" is because they don't need to, that they've already got what they need regarding him. Makes sense, anyway.
iluvtennis
(19,835 posts)...that's what i'm afraid of. The trumpian will come in and destroy all of the evidence. I want the FBI to backup the evidence somewhere for preservation
tblue37
(65,227 posts)Obama made sure the evidence against Trump and his people was widely disseminated, and that a lot of it was put in places where those who would collude with Trump would not even be able to access it to find out what is known.
I hope Comey and his lieutenants were smart enough to do the same thing, because it is a sure bet that those who collude with Trump will go wild deleting, destroying, and shredding every bit of evidence they can get their hands on!
I suspect Comey et al. knew to protect their evidence.
iluvtennis
(19,835 posts)briv1016
(1,570 posts)Squinch
(50,922 posts)populistdriven
(5,644 posts)how many vacations would not have been cancelled...
how many of their other important investigations would not be delayed...
whomever asked Comey deserves a pat on the back, it was a great question in the hearing - "Does the FBI have sufficient staff to cover the current workload" Of course Comey said yes rubbing salt in the wound
brewens
(13,547 posts)and become part of Trumps Fourth Reich? It's a big risk to be the one's to stop him too.
Leith
(7,808 posts)the wind will leave the sails of investigating HRC and the agents get a little more zeal into investigating tRump's Russian entanglements, that would be a good thing.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)moda253
(615 posts)Any of their work can be squashed by whoever he appoints.
We need the senate to refuse to confirm.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)is why Comey had to lay it out. Former NYC FBI head said as much. Now, given what came out, bet they set him up. NYC office hates Loretta Lynch - thinks she impeded their investigation.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,766 posts)Sculpin Beauregard
(1,046 posts)LibraLiz1973
(8,197 posts)VOMIT
bdamomma
(63,803 posts)Giuliani has his own skeletons in his closet. I would like to see him convicted too.
Cha
(296,881 posts)comey found out by seeing it flashed on screen while he was addressing a FBI group in LA.
And, the excuse.. fuck that noise. and his letter.. thanking comey for not investigating the traitor.. that was special.
Hope So!
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)Binkie The Clown
(7,911 posts)I know, we here at DU love to engage in wishful thinking and pretending that it's reality. But wishes are not reality, and to tell the truth, I'm getting a bit bored with all the "Trump is going down" predictions that simply never come true. Sure, trash talking is fun and makes us feel good, but there comes a time when we have to face reality. The coup succeeded. We are no longer a democracy. Deal with it by doing something positive to resist. And repeating vague wishes is not really productive. If anything, it lulls us into a false sense of immanent victory that will leave us shaking our heads and wondering how we could possibly have lost the battle. We all "knew" Hillary would win. But she didn't. We all "know" Trump is going down, but he's not.
dhill926
(16,317 posts)womanofthehills
(8,666 posts)It takes a while, but Trump is definitely going down.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)That much is true. Our only hope is Eric Schneiderman for two reasons. He doesn't answer to degenerate donnie AND donnie can't pardon anyone for state crimes (also means Pence can't pardon donnie).
The_Casual_Observer
(27,742 posts)response to this, both the press and the dems. Trump is guilty of something, we don't know what yet, but this is actually ugly and it isn't going away.
womanofthehills
(8,666 posts)Replying to @OmarAslamLugo
Omar Aslam Lugo Retweeted Omar Aslam Lugo
8. Trump better grab an umbrella.
Leak storm brewing. Courtesy of Comey loyalists.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Agents are pissed, and more determined to pursue russia ties.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)He's not human.
CitizenZero
(505 posts)He thinks that he can insult and fight the FBI, the Intelligence Community, Foreign Service Officers at State, etc, without consequences. He doesn't understand that he is not a Dictator, although he is acting like one. You can't alienate the rank-and-file members of the government and the national security apparatus and expect to get your policies properly executed.
In most ways, Trump has no clue how Government works. He did not realize how complicated it was! I think that he will finally implode one day soon. In fact, he implodes on a regular basis, it just has not taken him out of office yet.
Trump is a threat to the Nation and to our National Security. He should be impeached and/or removed for being mentally unfit under the 25th Amendment. Removing Trump should be a goal for every Democrat running for Federal Office in 2018.
Oppose, Resist, Impeach!
CitizenZero
(505 posts)I agree with the previous poster who said that we might pin some of our hopes upon New York's AG Eric Schneiderman. He does not answer to Trump and is outside of the sphere of influence of the Trump Regime in DC. Schneiderman is capable and trustworthy.
I also agree with those who say we should not get ahead of ourselves and keep predicting Trump's downfall. It is not guaranteed by any means. We as Citizens should just keep pushing, but it is time to realize that we are suffering under a Tyrant who has no real respect or understanding of Democracy.
Hopefully the wheels of justice will turn and we will be rid of this sociopath soon. Democrats regaining seats in 2018 in the Congress will be a critical goal in getting Trump out prior to 2020. If Dem scan retake the Senate and/or the House, then we will be an opposition with teeth.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,766 posts)nadine_mn
(3,702 posts)Regrets embracing the orange menace and turning their backs on the intelligence community (the career agents..the ones who truly believe in truth and justice and all that crap and risk their safety - not the political appointees). The GOP loves to go on and on about how patriotic they are, how pro law and order they are etc etc.
And they get away with it...get away with sending men and women into battle then not providing care when they return or even enough equipment to fight, outing agents and putting lives in danger when it suits them, they get away with constant cover ups and lies that get people killed.
How much more unpatriotic and anti American can you get when you support a man who colluded with Russia to interfere with democracy. How big of a slap in the face is it basically threaten an agency by the way they fired Comey.
I want this stink to stick to the GOP for longer than the 2018 elections, I want it to be harder for them to get a way with their shit because people in the intelligence community are sick of putting their lives on the line while being stabbed in the back at home.