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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe Malignant Narcissist miscalculated big time by firing Comey
Because his problem is that he has no idea how other people function. He, like his ilk, who he has surrounded himself with and who he has appointed to destroy our government can "read" other people and that's why they're successful. Except they're blind to certain characteristics in normal human beings. They can't read people who are honest an who have principles of right and wrong they live by. People like Sally Yates for example.
Because Trump thinks the way he does he assumes that everyone is like him in that they're selfish and self-centered to the point that if they get what they want they'll be happy and free of any weaknesses such as the integrity to stand on principle or to question things that don't entail logic. He can read the lower and baser instincts because he has them himself. Integrity, or the sense that something is wrong in spite of one's personal opinion or preferences is impossible for him to read.
Trump and the other psychopaths he's surrounded himself with truly thought that because Democrats wanted Comey fired that we wouldn't question Trump's agenda if, after all, he did what we wanted anyway. That we would be so pleased that Comey was gone that we would just move on with our lives. It never occurred to them that we would question the timing, the motivations and the about face that Trump was exhibiting. That the principle he was violating would mean anything to us.
His problem is that we can see him for what he is now. We all know what he's doing. But he still thinks he has us fooled because he believes he managed to control the conversation again by deflecting what we were all talking about.
He's the one who has a tin ear when it comes to honesty and principle, and knowing right and wrong.
Canoe52
(2,948 posts)Gothmog
(144,890 posts)Trump is a very stupid person
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)As of now, it looks like he's getting away with it big time.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)No one is buying his reasons. Of course, I don't know what FOX's spin is but I also don't care. It's been one day.
Bradical79
(4,490 posts)I don't think we can say one way or the other just yet.
FSogol
(45,435 posts)Last edited Wed May 10, 2017, 04:22 PM - Edit history (1)
More stuff came out for years after that.
This isn't a sitcom and won't get wrapped up neatly by the end of the hour.
Stuart G
(38,410 posts)even if Trump resigns early next year, it will still be about a year. That would be half the time of Watergate. What will happen, no one knows, but the stage is set for the full play. Trump has now hurt the head of the FBI, and he did it in a mean vicious way..Not even telling him ahead of the press. Finding it out on TV like the rest of us....
...And he has hurt others, many others..Time will tell and hopefully we will all see the end of this awful play.
while everyone is freaking out, classified documents are being quietly deleted or shredded.
I doubt his Psychopath Administration even thinks that far ahead. They just assumed we're all too stupid and easy to manipulate. And where are they getting these classified documents? From the Intelligence agencies that they treat with such disdain?
BigRig
(74 posts)Do you believe the Russians don't think that far ahead? Do you believe that the Russians don't do the whole spy thing anymore?
lunatica
(53,410 posts)And evidently there's plenty there so the Russians aren't exactly better at it than us.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)If this leads to a special prosecutor being put in place then their plan failed. If not, then trump wins.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Things tend to happen when we wake up. Our government finds itself having to listen to us. Don't underestimate us (you included if you're a voting American)
spiderpig
(10,419 posts)Anytime MSNBC goes 4 hours straight without commercials, you know something big's up. And I say that without irony.
Trump is stupid. And a liar. As dishonest as they come.
He's so stupid that he doesn't realize that nearly two years of insulting everyone except the dolts who were too dumb to realize he was conning them, his shenanigans would come back to bite him in the butt.
Enough is enough. The world is watching.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)math is still the same ...
Our 1/3 has its hair on fire.
Their 1/3 is dutifully going along with it.
The other 1/3 is totally tuned out.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)The Women's march which was estimated to be the largest ever in Washington, DC alone and it was all over the country and in other countries too.
The marches against his Muslim ban crap - also all over the country and in other countries.
The March just recently for science with hundreds of thousands.
And the other dozen or so marches in between.
And then there's the Republican Town Halls regarding the Repeal and Replace the ACA.
Americans are awake. Young and old.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)that is our 1/3 ...
Look around.
Today,after the 1,000th step to far by Trump it is the same as it was yesterday, the day before, the day of the election, etc ...
Our 1/3 with our hair on fire.
Their 1/3 fantatically cheering it on.
The other 1/3 tuned out.
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)From their perspective, the just cut the head of the snake.
Only avenue to address this was the FBI, they will put someone in now who will shut it down.
November of 2018 is the last stand ...
lunatica
(53,410 posts)From their perspective... means they have miscalculated that there are more than just the FBI looking into the Russians. There are multiple investigations going on. Congress is one. He can't fire Congress. It is his co-equal but the Senate can impeach him. Whether he likes it or not.
Hell! We can't even impeach them ourselves. All we can do is vote against them.
"The wheels of justice turn slowly, but grind exceedingly fine." ~ Sun Tzu
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)nm
but you do realize there are elections coming up right?
Cosmocat
(14,558 posts)and the last time we had one of those, the halfwits in this country elected 45 and gave republicans full control in DC ...
Right?
Look, we are on the same side, so I don't mean to jump on your head.
But, we are in a really, REALLY bad spot here and the odds are long that this country will have some grand awakening that leads it to sort this out.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Maybe you think I'm being stupid, but I'm actually speaking from experience. I'm 68 and this gal has seen the impossible happen in my lifetime. More than once
but it was an election that got us into this fix. I see no evidence that anyone has changed sides. I'm just not hearing it. I hope I'm wrong.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Don't wait until you hear it.
tblue37
(65,215 posts)lunatica
(53,410 posts)facts are good!
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)thinking about the WHOLE picture. You may want to look into Eric Schneiderman and what he's been up to. Congress is a waste of time, The NY AG is not.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
lunatica
(53,410 posts)than people who are.
I actually don't personally know anyone who doesn't see through him. But then I live in California and work in UC Berkeley.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)I'm in Texas.
There are more morons down here defending Trump's every action than squirrels jumping on an old oak tree!
But, seriously - thank you. I am indeed glad that there are some parts of the country that see through the crazy.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)is that they knew it all along and weren't fooled for a second.
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)n/t
Saviolo
(3,278 posts)Right after he dropped the "revelations" about the new set of emails under investigation (that of course turned out to be a tempest in a teapot), I said that no matter who wins the election, Comey's finished. No one can properly trust him any longer. Hillary sure can't trust him to be non-partisan, and Trump can't trust him to be loyal, because what he did for Trump was, itself, an act of disloyalty.
If Trump had ditched Comey right after the election, he might have gotten away with the "It was because of the Hillary thing" that they're trying to peddle, but not now. It may even have won Trump some bipartisanism points with the media. But the sudden firing now? No way. His reasons are transparent and obvious. If they really cared about how he treated Hillary, it would have happened a month ago.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)He really thought, and so did his psychotic staff that no one would think the way you just did. logically.
My point is that the very reasoning you're exhibiting is alien to them. They don't really have a clue about us. All they know is his base and each other. It's all they understand too.
Gothmog
(144,890 posts)He's convinced he's smarter than everyone else. Which in itself is a definite giveaway that he's pretty stupid.
TeapotInATempest
(804 posts)But I think you're right - I think he can't get a read on people who aren't motivated purely by what will benefit them personally, but for whom honor, patriotism and the greater good matter.
I also think this blind spot can be used to bring about his downfall if it is exploited intelligently.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Because Narcissists and psychopaths expect loyalty but don't give it. They assume everyone is loyal to them, but I'm sure many will gladly roll over on him because they're also Narcissists and psychopaths and if it's in their best interest to do him in they will.
TeapotInATempest
(804 posts)Good. Let's hope they take each other down.
UTUSN
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