Heath Mello lost. Guess throwing away my healthcare and economic rights under the bus

[La Lioness Priyanka]

Was not a winning strategy after all.

Who knew ?

Well, most of us really.

[brush]

1. Yeah, all of that over a mayoral race while ignoring Ossoff's race for an immediate House seat.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

8. Also making something a national discussion

Which could have remained a local issue

[brush]

9. Yes. Created move division within the party...pro-choice v pro-life...

which should not even be a discussion among Dems.

Womens' right to choose should not be on the bargaining table.

[bettyellen]

13. It almost seems calculated to turn some against women's rights at a point where it's been

Noted that we women ARE the vast majority of the resistance.

[brush]

19. I didn't want to say that since some are so sensitive about a certain someone...

and why do it in a nationally meaningless mayoral race?

And then still lose, as with the other backed candidates that lost.

[bettyellen]

21. It feels like nothing more than spitefulness towards women. It's idiotic.

Take a look at the protesters, the lawyers who showed up to help fight the Muslim ban, at who is calling congress, who organized the largest protest in history! No more back seats- fuck that!

[frankieallen]

47. your words are inspiring...yes!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

30. No kidding

Which of the two races affect the rest of us more?

[brush]

48. Exactly, the US House seat.

[redgreenandblue]

2. Care to elaborate?

Who threw your rights under the bus and in what way?

[Ace Rothstein]

3. We're going to lose again in 2018, aren't we?

[WhiteTara]

4. If we decide that white male economics

is the best and only way to go.

[La Lioness Priyanka]

7. As long as we think catering to trump voters and trying to win them back

Is the way to win, probably

[okieinpain]

27. +1 n/t.

[Squinch]

32. If we run on the idea that ownership of one's own body is not all that important, yes we will.

[delisen]

5. Possibly he just ran a bad campaign?

[Me.]

6. The Dem Party Needs To Get It Right

We are not republicans

[progressoid]

10. That's a absurd argument.

There were two choices in Omaha. Which one of them would you prefer?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

11. What argument? That he lost? That he shouldn't have been propped up

As poster child of the new progressive left? Lol.

I'd have voted for him in his district, but I wound not have endorsed him while not endorsing osoff.

[progressoid]

12. Never mind.

This thread is just a thinly veiled continuation of the tedious postmortem general election bickering. No thanks.

[bettyellen]

15. I think it's an important discussion about what our "outreach"

Should look like. And the consequences of back benching women's human rights. Hope it's a lesson learned.

[obamanut2012]

17. Wrong -- once again, women's rights and concerns are handwaved away

You just did a textbook example. I'm sure you will reply with another one!

[progressoid]

44. Not handwaved away.

FWIW, there are only two groups (outside of Dem candidates) that my wife and I donate to regularly. NARAL and PP. On the liberal spectrum of women's rights, I'm probably further left than 90% of Democrats. Just wasn't in the mood to re-hash the personality conflicts from the primaries.

[LanternWaste]

20. What an adorable allegation!

"This thread is just a thinly veiled continuation of the..."

What an adorable allegation!

[JTFrog]

22. Because after the general election women don't need to talk about their rights anymore?

What the fuck?

No thanks indeed.

[progressoid]

40. That's exactly what I didn't say.

Of course we need to talk about women's rights. But this was more about who talks about rights. This mayoral race wouldn't have been much of an issue here, but Bernie happened to endorse Mello and that didn't sit well.

It seems it's OK for some to endorse Dems who want to restrict women's rights. Very few around here seem to be as angry at Schumer for endorsing pro-lifer Bob Casey Jr. Or Bill Clinton endorsing pro-lifer Joe Donnelly. And there are more like that. The problem this time was that it was Bernie speaking up. Just about anyone else, and this race would have been mostly ignored.

[JTFrog]

42. Strawman much?

Look, I can find plenty of people complaining about Casey going back to when I first joined DU. I can find plenty of people complaining about Donnelly even this year. Now you're gonna see plenty of people complaining about Mello.

Get over it. Your argument is ridiculous.

Expect women to speak up whenever they can about this bullshit. No more being thrown under the bus. PERIOD.

[progressoid]

46. Casey and Donnelly are both up for re-election in 2018

I'll not hold my breath waiting for DU's condemnation of their pro-life bull shit. I just did a little google search of DU and very few expressed outrage during their previous runs. I expect most will have to hold their noses and vote for them again.

[Tarheel_Dem]

28. Really? You feel the rights of women are "tedious"? Good to know.

[progressoid]

41. Also, not what I said.

I said the "postmortem general election bickering" was tedious.

[JTFrog]

43. Yeah, your condescending dismissal of our concerns about our human rights as "general bickering" is

what is tedious.

This constantly throwing women under the bus is what is fucking tedious.

[progressoid]

45. Again, not what I said.

This is why I said, "never mind" up-thread. Regardless of what I say, it seems I'm going to be tarred as a bad guy by some because I supported Bernie first, then Hillary. Sorry, I'm not. In fact, my wife and I spent last night working with other local party volunteers on increasing outreach to people in our area. Including, but not limited to, minorities, women, LGBTQ, young people & immigrants.

We're on the same side. And we likely agree on 95% of the issues including women's rights.

[Tarheel_Dem]

49. If that's true, you should probably stick to the subject of the o.p., which was not about.....

"postmortem general election bickering", but putting women's rights on the chopping block in pursuit of elective office.

[obamanut2012]

14. 100% this -- women are always less important than white men

ALWAYS.

[DefenseLawyer]

16. Abstract thought was never George Bush's strong suit either.

You're either with us or against us. It's so simple. So beautiful.

[Bettie]

18. There were two candidates

one a Dem and one Republican.

And here you are, cheering the loss of the Democrat.

Given a choice between the two, I always support the Dem, even if he or she is imperfect, which is almost always the case, as they tend to be human.

[JCanete]

23. its been a winning strategy plenty of times for dems, supposedly. But this one is worth mentioning

for some non-specific reason.

[NickB79]

24. Because a pro-choice candidate would have done better in Nebraska somehow?

It's fucking NEBRASKA. Who do you think the Dems could have run there that would have won?

I agree, it's completely shit that the only choices were a pro-life Dem and a pro-life GOPer in this race. The women of Nebraska deserve far better than that. But I honestly don't see how, in this particular area, you could have run anyone else more to the left and somehow won.

[alarimer]

25. Guess the Republican is a lot better then.

So, "always vote for the D" only applies to certain issues? Because I have been urged constantly here on this site that conservative Democrats are welcome, if they are in red states, which Nebraska certainly is, because that's the best we can do there.
And you know what, as much as that irks me, it's probably true.

What about Sen. Bob Casey? I guess we can let that seat go to an R.

And as a matter of fact, this guy was only conservative on the choice issue. He is pretty much middle of the road otherwise. But it's Omaha, so that's to be expected.

[JTFrog]

26. "only the choice issue"

Only human rights. Why should anyone have a problem with that.

[Fresh_Start]

29. I guess revolution wasn't a winning strategy ....

in spite of many people assuming it would be.

[Squinch]

31. Wait...you mean his saying that half the population don't own their own bodies DIDN'T get him votes?

Gosh. Who ever could have seen that coming.

[tirebiter]

33. We won civil rights when we still had the southern segrgationists

Do principled losses make ya'll feel better?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

34. Nope. Just wondering why purity sometimes

But not when it comes to civil rights

[MGKrebs]

35. I don't understand.

Bernie should not have gone to Omaha but he should go to Georgia?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

36. No, but he could try not pretending that abandoning women's rights

Is some winning strategy

[MGKrebs]

37. You don't think Bernie believes in Choice?

[La Lioness Priyanka]

38. Did I say that? When people can't defend their choices they deflect

And make up accusations that were not made etc.

[MGKrebs]

39. Never mind.

I've been reading more about this particular issue and I think I understand the problem better now.

I've got some thinking to do.