I'm 58. I've never seen a President more unhinged than Trump

[steve2470]

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10141772831#post22 <~~~~~ H/T

Not even Nixon at his worst was this bad. Yes, Nixon was paranoid, but had enough good sense to keep it private.

How about you ?

[Tommy_Carcetti]

1. A 242 year old person would have never seen a president as unhinged as Trump.

He is truly unprecedented. And hopefully he'll be un-Presidented.

[steve2470]

4. [phone] nt

[bdamomma]

5. geez I hope so being un-pResidented

the world community will breathe a little easier.

[steve2470]

20. Jackson was kinda....unique

However, I think Trump outdoes him.

The controversy surrounding his marriage to Rachel remained a sore point for Jackson, who deeply resented attacks on his wife's honor. By May 1806, Charles Dickinson had published an attack on Jackson in the local newspaper, and it resulted in a written challenge from Jackson to a duel. Since Dickinson was considered an expert shot, Jackson determined it would be best to let Dickinson turn and fire first, hoping that his aim might be spoiled in his quickness; Jackson would wait and take careful aim at Dickinson. Dickinson did fire first, hitting Jackson in the chest. The bullet that struck Jackson was so close to his heart that it was never safely removed. Under the rules of dueling, Dickinson had to remain still as Jackson took aim and shot and killed him. Jackson's behavior in the duel outraged men of honor in Tennessee, who called it a brutal, cold-blooded killing and saddled Jackson with a reputation as a violent, vengeful man. As a result, he became a social outcast.[38]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson#Planting_career_and_controversy

I've never seen anyone argue seriously that Jackson was mentally impaired. I'm no Jackson scholar though.

[Hortensis]

22. Exactly. We've never been anywhere near here before.

Electing this dysfunctional buffoon has astonished and badly frightened the entire planet. A political earthquake cracking the foundations of many societies that have come to depend on our stability for their own.

[workinclasszero]

29. You got that right

Trump is out to destroy american democracy. He colluded with a hostile foreign power to do so.

As soon as anyone starts getting close to this fact Trump fires them. His fucking traitorous party could give a shit and is actively protecting the lawless POS that defiles our white house.

[Cha]

44. lol.. I was thinking.. most

candidates get thoroughly vetted before they make it to the WH.

We have our Current M$M to thank in big part for Normalizing the hell outta trump and getting this one rigged in.

[RKP5637]

2. Trump, makes Nixon look like one of the really good guys. n/t

[Hortensis]

23. Wellll, one of the competent guys, RKP?

In most respects he really was, one of the ways of being "good," but not all?

[RKP5637]

27. Yes, definitely a better word pick! Competent! And, Nixon was not illiterate like Trump. n/t

[lpbk2713]

3. The only reason he is not institutionalized ...

People close to him are too intimidated to take the first steps.

[Hortensis]

26. No. He has obvious personality disorder but is not insane, you know.

Even Kurt Eichenwald of Newsweek, who believes he was institutionalized in the 1990s due to some kind of "breakdown" but can't prove it, does not question his sanity.

Much less suggest that our president should be kidnapped into a mental prison.

[lpbk2713]

39. That would work for me.

Whatever takes him out of the picture.

[uppityperson]

6. I'm a bit older, remember Nixon's paranoia and Reagan's Alzheimer's. But Don is in a class

of his own. I keep checking news during the day to see if the repubs finally act.

[Zoonart]

7. There is no precedent for this behavior in a president.

Saying that there is, is once again normalizing what is absolutely abnormal.

[uppityperson]

8. There is no precedent, I'm not normalizing anything but do remember nixon&raygun

[Zoonart]

9. This guy makes them look like

boy scouts. I remember Nixon and Rayguns too and neither of them debased the office of the Presidency on a daily basis. Neither of them dangerously hollowed out the government and neither of them could be connected to a criminal enterprise, and by that I mean Trump Inc.

[steve2470]

21. agreed nt

[RKP5637]

30. That, is exactly how I remember them too. Trump, is the most dangerous I've seen or even heard of.

And, especially since he's unpredictable, and I doubt it's a strategized unpredictability. I think he's out of control and acts purely on impulse.

[get the red out]

10. Agree

I am 52, and haven't seen worse either! My Mom is 81 and says Trump is the worst she has seen.

[Cha]

45. And, we all got a big Clue who he was during his

his campaign.. He's worse now, of course.. he wasn't a cornered rabid rat before the election.

[manicraven]

11. Not just presidents - I've rarely come across anybody as unhinged as tRump.

[LeftInTX]

12. I'm 60 and no

Rob Ford was unhinged. But he wasn't a president.
When Trump was running, I kept thinking of Rob Ford.

[Orsino]

13. He was never very hinged.

He has had the easiest of lives, with no challenges to his intellect, patience or courage. He doesn't seem to have had much education. He's never really had a job or even a work ethic.

There's no escaping the stress of the presidency, even with weekends off and days spent mostly watching TV. He wasn't ready for a leadership position, or for much of any job.

[steve2470]

19. agreed! nt

[HockeyMom]

14. I am not a crook

Not even close to this madman

[steve2470]

16. yea, that was an inappropriate thing to say but at least it made sense in the context

Trump's stuff ? No sense, only to him. Trump reminds me way too much of a movie mafia guy.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

15. I'm in my early 40s and I've never seen or met a douche bag of this magnitude. Never mind

"president".

[steve2470]

17. [phone] nt

[Grammy23]

18. The mask came off over the past couple of weeks.

Now we are seeing the real tRump in unvarnished glory. No one is controlling him now which makes me wonder where Jared and Ivanka are these days? Not hearing much about them being present to try to keep him off of Twitter and not doing sit down interviews.

He has been kept somewhat on track until the walls started closing in on him regarding the whole Russian connection. He senses things spiraling out of control but is still delusional enough to believe he...and only he....can get things back under his command. But that is his Narcissism at work.

The game is drawing to a great crescendo way beyond trump's ability to stop. We knew it was coming and saw the signs that things were unraveling. Now it is time for Congress to step up and remove him before more damage is done. And someone needs to explain to the tRump fans that they were duped, taken in by this madman. They won't want to hear it and some won't believe it but it has to be done. Book some time on every media outlet and let a bipartisan panel explain it. Include medical experts to explain Malignant Narcissism and how it impacts trump's behavior. The future of the U.S. is at stake. Delay puts everyone of us at risk. This situation is not going to get better until he is removed.

[musette_sf]

24. Idi Amin n/t

[BainsBane]

25. No one has

[Vinca]

28. Me either and I've got 10 years on you. What frightens me is the Republicans

in Congress are putting party over country. If this was a Democratic POTUS acting batshit crazy, they'd already be on the way out.

[steve2470]

31. agreed! nt

[RKP5637]

32. Yes, that is the worst part of it all. The republicans won't call out one of their own kind. They

continue to rationalize his behavior, even trying to make it the new norm.

[WePurrsevere]

37. True, and Republicans pretty much always do...

It's one of the things that I've long thought makes us different in an ethical sort of way. The Cons embrace their crooks, serial adulterers, shysters, etc. We tend to give ours the cold shoulder PDQ.

[Hugin]

33. I'll up-the-ante to say I've seen few people as unhinged and frankly a public menace as Trumpenstein

He has single-handedly caused me to re-evaluate my views on how mental health should be handled with respect to public safety.

[Lifelong Protester]

34. He's as bad as I've seen.

As the possessor of two history degrees, I am appalled.

[kimbutgar]

35. Im 61 and this guy is effing coo coo

[Warpy]

36. Nixon in his last month was almost this bad

especially when he knew he'd lost his own party's backing.
"
This screeching toddler was never as sane as Nixon was during his last few weeks. He's been nuts from the get-go. This can and will get much worse.

[Jacquette]

38. I have you beat by a year

& I've never seen anything like it. And I was a 6 yr old diving under desks waiting for the Russians to kill us all.

I admit....a lot of Nixon's impeachment flew right over my head; Senior year,baby senior year.

[Living_Progressive]

40. And Dangerous

I'm 66 and have never seen or imagined something like this.
Have no faith this will come out good for the American People.
Extremely sad for this country. Idiotic voters and non-voters!

[cagefreesoylentgreen]

41. "American Caligula"

[Hugin]

43. Nah, he's more like a wannabe of the often overlooked, "Emperor Commodus".

"Commodus the gladiator

Commodus also had a passion for gladiatorial combat, which he took so far as to take to the arena himself, dressed as a gladiator. The Romans found Commodus' naked gladiatorial combats to be scandalous and disgraceful. It was rumoured that he was actually the son, not of Marcus Aurelius, but of a gladiator whom his mother Faustina had taken as a lover at the coastal resort of Caieta.

In the arena, Commodus always won since his opponents always submitted to the emperor. Thus, these public fights would not end in death. Privately, it was his custom to slay his practice opponents. For each appearance in the arena, he charged the city of Rome a million sesterces, straining the Roman economy.

Commodus raised the ire of many military officials in Rome for his Hercules persona in the arena. Often, wounded soldiers and amputees would be placed in the arena for Commodus to slay with a sword. Citizens of Rome missing their feet through accident or illness were taken to the arena, where they were tethered together for Commodus to club to death while pretending they were giants. These acts may have contributed to his assassination.

Commodus was also known for fighting exotic animals in the arena, often to the horror of the Roman people. According to Gibbon, Commodus once killed 100 lions in a single day. Later, he decapitated a running ostrich with a specially designed dart and afterwards carried the bleeding head of the dead bird and his sword over to the section where the Senators sat and gesticulated as though they were next. Dio notes that the targeted senators actually found this more ridiculous than frightening, and chewed on laurel leaves to conceal their laughter. On another occasion, Commodus killed three elephants on the floor of the arena by himself. Finally, Commodus killed a giraffe, which was considered to be a strange and helpless beast."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodus

[steve2470]

46. thanks for that, fascinating history!

Maybe Trump will try to fight his political enemies on the White House lawn in a similar fashion ?

[fescuerescue]

42. Each Republican is always worse than the last

Remember when Bush was the worst president in history? Now he just seems bad.

What worries me most, is the next Republican who will no doubt be far worse than Trump

[Greybnk48]

47. I'm 68, and I think he has Nixon beat with the nutter

paranoia. Nixon wasn't a narcissist either.