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Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
1. Why should they? (ignoring country first, doing the right thing, etc)
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:38 PM
May 2017

It's all about power for them. With a slam dunk impeachment case on obstruction of justice, they now control President Trump.

Cha

(297,154 posts)
2. Never count on them.. The repubs will milk trump dry
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:39 PM
May 2017

to get what they want. Riches and Power over country.

mn9driver

(4,424 posts)
3. Exactly.
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:46 PM
May 2017

The GOP is nothing more than an organized crime operation at this point. Criminal behavior does not bother them at all. They have no intention of actually doing anything to stop any of this.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
4. 2018 is OUR first chance...not our last chance
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:46 PM
May 2017

actually after the 2018 elections so 2019 is the first chance when the democratic congress is sworn in

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
8. We can retake the House or come close in 2018.
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:02 PM
May 2017

The Senate will be a tougher haul, I am ok with remaining steady in the Senate. Our best chance comes in 2020, with lots of republican Senators up and us running against Trump and republican incompetence. If we get non voters active, we can ignore the alt-left assholes and still cakewalk to a majority. We need to take statehouses and legislatures in 2018 and 2020 because of the census and redistricting.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
5. We would end up with Pence or Ryan anyways. Let the Repubs keep on self-inflicting damage to
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:47 PM
May 2017

themselves I guess.

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
10. That would be a great approach, if it weren't for the economy, and the military
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:06 PM
May 2017

Trump's policies are going to screw up people's lives. Trump command of the military, it's almost certainly going to get a lot of people needlessly killed. The Democrats are probably more good for the country by obstructing Trump's agenda then they would buy impeaching him

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
11. I agree. I am to the point where I only want Democrats
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:08 PM
May 2017

to win enough House seats to make it possible for the Freedom Coalition to devour socalled regular republicans, we need to gain only five or so seats to get into that situation. We do need to hold and take statehouses and legislatures in 2018 and again in 2020. As far as national elections go, I want a disorganized, infighting Republican Party coming into 2020 with lots of Senate seats up for grabs, and Trump at the top of their ticket - it would be great if Trump has completed the journey to stone crazy a year before 2020.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
6. Yep. That pretty much sums it up.
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:47 PM
May 2017

BUT, I think our chances at winning back the House are fairly certain and I think we will at least defend our Senate seats, at most pick up the Flake seat.

By the time we roll around to 2018, I think some Republican Senators may be willing to cross the line and vote to convict.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
12. Flake is a tough candidate, he comes off as moderate.
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:11 PM
May 2017

And he distances himself from Trump, like Sasse does. If Heller is up, we can take that seat. I think we have 3-4 at risk seats, but I think the chaos with Trump helps us hold those seats. If we come out plus or minus 1 in the Senate, I would be satisfied.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
13. Yes, Heller is up and I think Heller can be beat.
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:17 PM
May 2017

Flake is tough. He has backed the end of the Cuban embargo and seemed amenable to some type of immigration reform.

But he also has a 97% rating from the Club for Growth. He is deeply conservative, just like the fake "maverick" John McCain.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
14. What other republican Senator can be beaten, other than Heller in 2018?
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:29 PM
May 2017

Outstanding risk seats are Montana, North Dakota, West Virgnia and Florida. I think Manchin in West Virginia and Nelson in Florida will pull through. Montana reelected a Democrat Governor in a tough race and if we do well in the House special election (even if we don't win it), that bodes well for holding the Senate seat. Heitkampt is the most at risk in North Dakota, but she also has proven that she is a formidable candidate, republicans won't beat her with any mouthbreather.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
15. OK - this is going to sound crazy...
Fri May 12, 2017, 08:39 PM
May 2017

But I do believe Uncle Ted Cruz is up in Texas. Yes, it's a long-shot, but I do think it would be worthwhile to spend some $$$ trying to unseat him. Right now Beto O'Rourke is willing to challenge him. But if Castro does throw his hat in the ring, we would have to spend like our lives depended on it because he is probably the biggest threat to Cruz's re-election.

Cruz is really not likable, and especially in the San Anton Dallas/FW area, he is loathed with a passion.

With the right candidate, I think he is beatable, because I think people who don't normally vote Democratic would just to register a vote AGAINST Cruz.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
7. I agree. We need to hold steady in the Senate and either
Fri May 12, 2017, 07:57 PM
May 2017

Retake the House or get close to 50-50 by eliminating cowardly GOP moderates in blue and purple states. The Senate will be tough for us because we have 22 seats up and republicans have only 8 seats up (mostly in deep red states).

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