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kpete

(71,986 posts)
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:07 PM May 2017

Pence conspired in near secrecy with Trump to oust Comey: NY Times



A bombshell New York Times report about the tumultuous inner workings of the Trump team claims that Vice President Mike Pence was integral to President Donald Trump’s planned firing of former FBI Director James Comey that rocked American politics in the past week.

The article alleges that Pence was among “the small group of advisers who planned Mr. Comey’s ouster in near secrecy”.


Pence’s work to forward the initial White House story claiming that Trump fired Comey under recommendation from Attorney General Jeff Sessions was “vaporized” once Trump appeared on Lester Holt‘s show Thursday, when the president claimed that he was “going to to fire regardless of the recommendation” of Sessions and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.

Along with allegations that Pence helped Trump concoct a story to fire Comey, the article also makes the serious claim, based on interviews with “a half-dozen West Wing officials” who remain anonymous, that Trump is “considering the most far-reaching shake-up of his already tumultuous team”. The article insinuates that the shake-up will come in the form of firing Press Secretary Sean Spicer, but remains unclear as to exactly how “far-reaching” such changes could go.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/05/pence-conspired-in-near-secrecy-with-trump-to-oust-comey-ny-times/
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Pence conspired in near secrecy with Trump to oust Comey: NY Times (Original Post) kpete May 2017 OP
K&R 2naSalit May 2017 #1
Pence: just as stupid as Trump or meadowlark5 May 2017 #2
Both. Pence is famously stupid, but he was Bannon's/Mercer's VP choice (Trump wanted Christie). tblue37 May 2017 #6
He's in it up to his eyeballs. milestogo May 2017 #7
He was Manafort's choice... babylonsister May 2017 #12
I thought it was Bannon who performed that manipulative trick. Fuzzy memory caused tblue37 May 2017 #13
+1, yes Trump is the perfect Trojan horse for the KGOP. He's useless and R B Garr May 2017 #14
The drumpf family and administration are all going to be removed. democratisphere May 2017 #3
Interesting. The widespread assumption is that since Pence is not Trump, he must be more competent. mn9driver May 2017 #4
PENCE is Looking Like a Liar or a Fool: What It Means to Work for Trump L. Coyote May 2017 #5
jesus...what a shit show.... dhill926 May 2017 #8
...what a shit show.... sigh.... LakeArenal May 2017 #18
We're gonna need a bigger sewer system... Marie Marie May 2017 #28
It is, indeed, the very definition of a shit show. Still In Wisconsin May 2017 #29
Excellent...No President Pence Me. May 2017 #9
+1000. dchill May 2017 #22
How much is Trump paying this bootlicking Gingrich to write his biography? dalton99a May 2017 #10
We need an HR Dept in the White House C_U_L8R May 2017 #11
Stupid and lame may work to our advantage in the long run. Amaryllis May 2017 #23
Mikey P.: Eyeballs, up to his. WinkyDink May 2017 #15
Link to NY Times story BumRushDaShow May 2017 #16
... Solly Mack May 2017 #17
Pence will squeal... kentuck May 2017 #19
One thing's certain. The White House is going to remain MineralMan May 2017 #20
That's way too couch potato. We need to exercise our rights and responsibility. SleeplessinSoCal May 2017 #25
By all means. You should do that, if you believe it will MineralMan May 2017 #26
From all my researching, it is what is called for if we are intent on upholding the Constitution. SleeplessinSoCal May 2017 #31
K&R and Tweeted yuiyoshida May 2017 #21
I envision Bill O'Reilly at the podium as Press "Controller" SleeplessinSoCal May 2017 #24
Yeah, no kidding. GoCubsGo May 2017 #27
I'm more convinced by the day... Docreed2003 May 2017 #30
My take malaise May 2017 #32

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
6. Both. Pence is famously stupid, but he was Bannon's/Mercer's VP choice (Trump wanted Christie).
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:20 PM
May 2017

The plan all along was to use Trump to sign off on the RW agenda, then ditch him as soon as he became sufficiently compromised to prevent his cultish voters from rebelling against the GOP. And then the GOP could distance themselves from his toxic reputation and install Pence as their friend in the Oval Office.

That is why they tie themselves into pretzel knots trying to maintain Pence's plausible deniability.

babylonsister

(171,057 posts)
12. He was Manafort's choice...
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:49 PM
May 2017
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-offered-chris-christie-vice-president-role-before-mike-pence/

CBS says Manafort picked Pence back in July 2016
Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign manager at the time, allegedly had another idea in mind.

Manafort had arranged for Trump to meet with his first choice for the job on July 13: Indiana Governor Mike Pence. Afterwards, the plans was for Trump and Pence to then fly back to New York together and a formal announcement would be made, a campaign source said of Manafort’s thinking.

What had previously been reported as a “lucky break” by the New York Times was actually a swift political maneuver devised by the now fired campaign manager. Set on changing Trump’s mind, he concocted a story that Trump’s plane had mechanical problems, forcing the soon-to-be Republican nominee to stay the night in Indianapolis for breakfast with the Pence family on Wednesday morning.

Swayed by Pence’s aggressive pitch, Trump agreed to ditch Christie and make Pence his VP the following day, according to a source.

tblue37

(65,336 posts)
13. I thought it was Bannon who performed that manipulative trick. Fuzzy memory caused
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:52 PM
May 2017

by the sheer number of bad actors performing bad deeds!

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
14. +1, yes Trump is the perfect Trojan horse for the KGOP. He's useless and
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:55 PM
May 2017

discardable after they get access to all they want to plunder. Never could have gotten there legitimately on their own. Pence is their insertable goodie two-shoes.

mn9driver

(4,424 posts)
4. Interesting. The widespread assumption is that since Pence is not Trump, he must be more competent.
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:12 PM
May 2017

But this article indicates perhaps not. Incompetence comes in more than one form.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
9. Excellent...No President Pence
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:33 PM
May 2017

When the time comes for 45 to get the heave ho Pence can now, by implication, be shoved out with him.

dalton99a

(81,455 posts)
10. How much is Trump paying this bootlicking Gingrich to write his biography?
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:35 PM
May 2017

"Mr. Gingrich, who is working on a biography of Mr. Trump"

C_U_L8R

(44,999 posts)
11. We need an HR Dept in the White House
Sat May 13, 2017, 12:48 PM
May 2017

That was the most despicable and lame 'management' move... ever.
What stupid fux. They need adult supervision.

MineralMan

(146,287 posts)
20. One thing's certain. The White House is going to remain
Sat May 13, 2017, 01:07 PM
May 2017

a source of entertainment and anxiety for all of us here on DU. It's a soap opera of international scope. We will all have plenty to talk about as the story slowly unfolds and unravels. With good luck, it will end well. With bad luck, it will end very badly, indeed.

One thing remains certain, though, none of us will have any effect on how things progress in this soap opera. We are merely the rapt audience, watching in horror and amusement.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
31. From all my researching, it is what is called for if we are intent on upholding the Constitution.
Sat May 13, 2017, 04:11 PM
May 2017

Otherwise we lose the whole deal to the greenish people on the planet.

GoCubsGo

(32,080 posts)
27. Yeah, no kidding.
Sat May 13, 2017, 02:29 PM
May 2017

Secrecy is Pence's M.O. Anyone who thinks this asshole's hands are the least bit clean in anything, including the Russia collusion, is severely deluded.

Docreed2003

(16,858 posts)
30. I'm more convinced by the day...
Sat May 13, 2017, 03:04 PM
May 2017

That Pence is the Trojan horse for Bannon et al. I think he's knee deep in the Russia collusion and I think he's playing this administration to benefit when Trump goes down. I don't trust me one bit.

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