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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDescribe the carnage: what IF Trump went down?
More pointedly, how would America cope if criminal charges were brought against Trump, against Ivanka, against Uday, against Qusay, against Kushner, against his VP, his cabinet, his advisors, his attorney, his campaign aides, against several Congressmen and women, against Congressional staff, and beyond...and what if all of them were card-carrying members of the Republican Party?
Think of the millions of Americans who identify themselves as Republicans and their reaction to this criminal round-up. They're already conditioned to see American politics as an us versus them game. Many of them have been programmed to believe that all of this is a hoax, a scam, a political witch hunt arising out of Democrats' anger for losing the election. What would they do if indictments were laid down, arrest warrants issued? Could this country withstand the protests and obfuscations of millions upon millions of aggrieved Republicans...even if based on evidence corroborated by our intelligence agencies and other intelligence agencies around the world, even if tried in American courts of law with all due process?
Think of the FBI and the DOJ, gathering evidence of inconceivable breadth and reach, against federal level government officials. They must wonder what the end game of all of this will be. They must carry a burden that none of us could fathom, our delicate democracy teetering in the balance, countered by a duty to seek justice against those who would undermine the very fabric of our nation.
What would happen if EVERYONE who violated federal law was brought to justice? Would we survive?
elleng
(130,740 posts)we MIGHT find someone interested it facing China.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/13/business/china-railway-one-belt-one-road-1-trillion-plan.html?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)The remainder would turn to violence.
MedusaX
(1,129 posts)While there is still something salvageable...
Time is of the essence though...
The longer he is allowed to normalize the behaviors & acts associated with our descent toward fascism
And
The longer His most loyal minions are empowered to reinstate the pre 1960 societal structure
The harder it will be to recover, if recovery is even a realistic possibility at that point..
monmouth4
(9,686 posts)Wednesdays
(17,317 posts)Such as letting the criminals walk, scot-free? Because it would be "for the good of the country?"
democratisphere
(17,235 posts)Feathery Scout
(218 posts)I personally think the Republican Party will first immolate itself and lose the House Majority in 2018....before Impeaching Trump.
They realize they strength of his cult of personality and I think they would rather let the Dems take him down than face the wrath/disloyalty of the base. And second, I do not think Trump will ever be removed by Congress. There will not be 2/3 in both Houses. Not until 2020.
Could he be forced to resign? Yes! And impeachment trial after 2018 by the Dems? Yes!
But no group of Republicans will help remove this cult leader and face the consequences.
CrispyQ
(36,424 posts)If they take down the Con but leave Pence/McConnell/Ryan, we will have to battle this cancer again.