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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI cut some slack for Gen. McMaster. Some one has to be National Security Advisor and keep that job
McMaster is not a political figure nor should his job be political. But Trump is capable of firing anyone instantly, and not everyone Trump is willing to hire is even remotely capable. Trump could easily appoint someone like John Bolton as his next National Security Advisor, and there's not a damn thing that anyone could do about it as long as Trump remains President.
When he obfuscates for Trump McMaster needs to be called on it. But I get it. As long as McMaster leaves it to others to do the bald faced lying, I understand the tight rope that he is walking on. I'm not saying McMaster is the National Security Advisor I would want a Democratic President to hire (personally I would opt for Wes Clark) but at least he is knowledgeable and sane. We are on nuclear war watch as long as Trump is in the White House. We need sanity to prevail until we can be rid of Trump.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,831 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)ZERO!
He should be brought up on charges himself if he is conspiring to cover up high crimes performed by the so-called POTUS!
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)Not of this latest incident, we already know enough. Trump is a petulant infant with the nuclear code. He can out agents with a tweet. He can insult Islam at a rally and start riots half way around the world. My OP is premised on an assumption that soon enough we will know if it was true. I am assuming that the senior National Security Team Trump has had in place since Flynn was ousted has had their hands constantly full erecting fire walls and defusing bombs, to prevent Trump from setting off an inferno, and that McMaster has been part of that.
None of us had full trust in Comey (that is an understatement) but we all see the danger in his being fired and likely replaced by a Trump loyalist. I shudder to see who Trump would feel comfortable replacing McMaster with now, now that both his wounded ego and paranoia are rampant and gathering momentum.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Our government is soon going to be run by Alex Jones, Ted Nugent and Jim Bakker type loons if Trump is not impeached or resigns!
This is a crisis! We cannot wait around untill Putin decides to test his puppet with moves against Europe or the dictator of NK thinks he can yank the weak ass idiot chain one more time and Don the con decides a nice little nuclear war will throw the dogs off his trail.
We are playing with fire everyday Trump is in office. Many people are going to get burned badly before it's all over IMO.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Iggo
(47,547 posts)Rustyeye77
(2,736 posts)wow
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)National Security Advisors don't even require Senate confirmation hearings. Trump could make his next one Bannon if he wanted to.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)were really out of whack (imho) for this website. We are all capable of critical reading (dealing with Mensch and Taylor), and I have no idea why certain posters keep telling us to "calm down" and accept Trump or members of the Trump team as it "could" be worst.
Trump has SEVERELY damaged the presidency and now he has put our intelligence community at risk (potentially). That is not a joke, and that is not something we should just say awwwww shucks about either.
I will absolutely not cut McMaster slack. He is a grown ass Man out there lying (imho) to the world about a national security issue that potentially makes us less safe and endangers a foreign ally's intelligence sources -- all to soothe the big fat man baby in the White House who blathered this info to the fucking Russians. Fuck them all!
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)nor do think we should ignore them, at all. And it's OK that we disagree about McMaster, but we fully agree on this:
"Trump has SEVERELY damaged the presidency and now he has put our intelligence community at risk (potentially). That is not a joke, and that is not something we should just say awwwww shucks about either."
That largely is why I wrote what I did. Every hour that Trump sits in the White House he holds real power over life and death for many. Even if impeachment hearings began tomorrow that would still be the case. We need to be stoking the resistance. Trump needs to be "taken down" (politically of course). Meanwhile, every second, he needs to be kept in restraint as much as humanly possible by sane people on the inside also. There is nothing McMaster has or will likely say that can quell the furor around Trump. There are many voices to make sure it builds, ours among them. Those who resist Trump now get fired, and I'm fine with that in almost all cases. There are plenty of Generals who we can afford to have resign over Trump. Plenty of senior officials in most every agency possible can and should defy him and resign. And then thee are all of our elected officials.
But yeah, I do want someone relatively sane on the inside helping to keep the world from blowing up until we can get rid of Trump. Anyone who Trump replaces McMaster with will only be much worse in that crucial regard.
Vinca
(50,255 posts)Personally, I don't know why McMaster and the rest of them are so willing to give up their self respect for an ignorant, infantile camera lover, but that's for them to live with. We should cut him zero slack. He signed on for this and he must realize Trump "ain't right." Pretending he is only covers up for him.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)handling of classified, very sensitive intelligence info coming from foreign allies who have very very sensitive operations taking place in hot spots in the Middle East CANNOT BE TRUSTED. Think of how incredibly serious this is!
Trump blathered this info to the fucking Russians (yet again with the Russians!), and now the source that gave us the intelligence knows that Trump can't be trusted with such information unless they want their sources exposed according to Trump's whimsy.
lostnfound
(16,170 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)I was cutting him slack until he ran this errand, knowing that Trump is only using him because the other spokescritters are laughingstocks.
It is an honorable pursuit to try to provide a shitty president with the best possible advice, but damn, dude.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)"Would the political actors hurry up and remove him, not sure how much longer we can keep this together"