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BREAKING: COMEY MEMO (Original Post) Thrill May 2017 OP
Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation oh boy!! riversedge May 2017 #1
If that can be proven to have been written before Comey was fired then Trumps in alot of hot water. cstanleytech May 2017 #60
The conversation must have happened before Comey was fired, BobTheSubgenius May 2017 #75
So Comey KNOWS Benedict Donald is VERY VERY fucked up !!!! uponit7771 May 2017 #2
This is non-stop madness malaise May 2017 #3
Comey wanted to leave a paper trail. Karma!! riversedge May 2017 #4
Important for history, but the deplorables and GOP house and senate dont care. Eliot Rosewater May 2017 #6
Exactly, they will collude to protect him probably by trying a fake impeachment where cstanleytech May 2017 #61
Yes. Why it's important before start that Sen votes for conviction be overwhelming. Prob 1 chance.nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #76
It was reported Skidmore May 2017 #19
Yes, and if he weren't normally (ridiculous thought), Hortensis May 2017 #56
You had to figure Comey kept good records mcar May 2017 #5
Breaking news on msnbc: WH says trump did not say this to Comey. oh boy!! riversedge May 2017 #7
Trump never asked FBI Director to end any investion is the real trailer. oh boy riversedge May 2017 #9
Let him produce his tapes that corroborate his version Generic Other May 2017 #55
We could ask Putin for his copy of the "tapes". . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2017 #77
Big Deal SoCalMusicLover May 2017 #8
BAD JUDGEMENT BY TRUMP riversedge May 2017 #11
Bad judgement is the... 3catwoman3 May 2017 #70
I heard someone say that he always left Horse with no Name May 2017 #10
that is obstruction of justice nt Abu Pepe May 2017 #12
So drumph thought he could fire Flynn and escape the investigations BSdetect May 2017 #13
The trail is going to bury him Johnny2X2X May 2017 #14
yesterday it was WPost, today the NYTimes. Good for them riversedge May 2017 #15
Isn't this illegal? SHRED May 2017 #16
"obstruction of justice" is the phrase that comes to mind! n/t ginnyinWI May 2017 #41
It would seem so. sarah FAILIN May 2017 #43
Trump has pissed off the wrong people from the get-go Elwood P Dowd May 2017 #17
Truth! SHRED May 2017 #21
NBC has confirmed this story. bathroommonkey76 May 2017 #18
This makes me wonder what else Comey knows... Mrs. Overall May 2017 #20
Clear cut case of obstruction of justice. Foamfollower May 2017 #22
Unless there is a tape... kentuck May 2017 #33
Trump will just say that Comey's memo NewJeffCT May 2017 #48
Memo was written two months before he was fired. Foamfollower May 2017 #58
...and that's why I hang out here. byronius May 2017 #59
Thanks for that information NewJeffCT May 2017 #71
Message deleted by DU the Administrators tammywammy May 2017 #74
K & R for exposure. SunSeeker May 2017 #23
Open and shut obstruction of justice. Azathoth May 2017 #24
What was republican Comey's response? Catherine Vincent May 2017 #25
This is exhausting. Nevernose May 2017 #26
Gregg Schneider wrote a beautiful piece about how the process ratchets toward the target. byronius May 2017 #62
Paper trail is always what you do when you have a bad boss The Blue Flower May 2017 #27
Exactly DeminPennswoods May 2017 #31
TURN OUT DA LIGHTS THE PARTY'S OVAH Blue_Tires May 2017 #28
Ughvomica Mollyann May 2017 #49
Wow. I need to stock up on 🍿 Nanjeanne May 2017 #29
K&R... trying to influence an FBI investigation. oh me, oh my. spanone May 2017 #30
lol Blue_Tires May 2017 #32
lol JHan May 2017 #40
Russia Russia Russia! Everything revolves around Russia. OMG. This is good evidence. Honeycombe8 May 2017 #34
I'm gonna jizz my pants... Blue_Tires May 2017 #35
Gross. n/t demmiblue May 2017 #36
K&R demmiblue May 2017 #37
Watergate was piker shit by comparison now... Moostache May 2017 #38
This makes Watergate seem like... 3catwoman3 May 2017 #72
We now have him on a major crime Dopers_Greed May 2017 #39
Did he actually think that firing Comey would end this? ginnyinWI May 2017 #42
The plan was to fire him while he was in LA Thrill May 2017 #44
K&R Scurrilous May 2017 #45
Hair Farce One, meet the Comey-kaze nt Xipe Totec May 2017 #46
I guess the first question would go to Sessions and whomever else was asked to leave the room? kentuck May 2017 #47
High crimes and misdemeanors workinclasszero May 2017 #50
Comey must have shared this info with someone else. All he needs is someone to corroborate it. writes3000 May 2017 #51
Reports are that he discussed the meetings with others who were aware of the meeting dhol82 May 2017 #78
Emails summarizing meetings is very common underpants May 2017 #52
I hope the press does not give him pass helpisontheway May 2017 #53
WAPO CONFIRMING Thrill May 2017 #54
"Comeys written account of the meeting is two pages long and highly detailed." workinclasszero May 2017 #69
something horrible breaking every day with the orange one.... chillfactor May 2017 #57
obstruction of justice and conspiracy to cover up elmac May 2017 #63
This is why they have been squirming so much, distracting so much. Guilty of Obstruction of Justice. L. Coyote May 2017 #64
You know, Pence is more zentrum May 2017 #65
Plot tiptonic May 2017 #66
Don't worry, the anti-anti-Trumpers won't believe it. Beartracks May 2017 #67
I used to work for the Federal government with a lot of political appointees. nikibatts May 2017 #68
One does not advance in a career field like intel... 3catwoman3 May 2017 #73

cstanleytech

(26,243 posts)
60. If that can be proven to have been written before Comey was fired then Trumps in alot of hot water.
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:42 PM
May 2017

Not that I expect the Repugnants to impeach him over it though but if they try the sham impeachment which I suspect they will try where it passes in the House but falls just short of passing in the Senate by one or more votes the backlash against them at the polls will hopefully give them all whiplash.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,560 posts)
75. The conversation must have happened before Comey was fired,
Wed May 17, 2017, 10:22 AM
May 2017

or it would not have happened at all. It's probably not that strong in a criminal trial, but someone's written notes about a contested event in a civil trial are enough to carry the day, all other things being equal.

I'm hopeful, is what I'm saying.

riversedge

(70,092 posts)
4. Comey wanted to leave a paper trail. Karma!!
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:37 PM
May 2017



...Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence an ongoing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.

Mr. Comey shared the existence of the memo with senior F.B.I. officials and close associates. The New York Times has not viewed a copy of the memo, which is unclassified, but one of Mr. Comey’s associates read parts of the memo to a Times reporter.

cstanleytech

(26,243 posts)
61. Exactly, they will collude to protect him probably by trying a fake impeachment where
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:47 PM
May 2017

the House votes yes but the Senate votes no by a handful of votes and then they will try to play innocent and say "Well folks we did our duty but the Senate has decided not to impeach the President so its now time to move along and deal with more important business.".

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
19. It was reported
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:44 PM
May 2017

last week that Comey is a meticulous writer of memos to memoialize any interaction or event that seems untoward.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
56. Yes, and if he weren't normally (ridiculous thought),
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:35 PM
May 2017

well, I just wish someone would have let me bet my next paycheck with odds that he was documenting everything very, very carefully. Sucker bet.

That said, we know Comey is corrupt and that he's mixed up over his 6'8" hairline in the most giant, crooked, seditious betrayal we'e ever been faced with. I wouldn't put anything past him to get himself safe out of this. If I didn't hope to see them all in federal prison I'd feel really sorry for those amateurs in the White House thinking they can somehow go up against him and win. As it is, a falling out among criminals.

Generic Other

(28,979 posts)
55. Let him produce his tapes that corroborate his version
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:34 PM
May 2017

Stupid liar. Oh what a web we weave when first we practice to deceive!

 

SoCalMusicLover

(3,194 posts)
8. Big Deal
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:39 PM
May 2017

The repubs couldn't care less. Besides, isn't Drumpf basically admitting to this already?

It probably wouldn't matter if there was video of him handing classified documents to an ISIS leader. At best, there are 2 or 3 repubs who MIGHT come on board with the Democrats. And even that would take a miracle. The remaining 95+% will vote with their party, that's how they get what they want.

Johnny2X2X

(18,973 posts)
14. The trail is going to bury him
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:40 PM
May 2017

These people aren't stupid. Obama, Comey, any other intelligence officer, they all left trails of evidence of Trump's wrong doings all over every level of law enforcement. There is no containing it.

And this (Comey's memo) is evidence of a crime by Trump. Obstruction of justice.

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
17. Trump has pissed off the wrong people from the get-go
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:42 PM
May 2017

and doesn't seem to grasp the idea that those people can royally fuck up your life no matter how much fame and fortune you possess.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
48. Trump will just say that Comey's memo
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:58 PM
May 2017

was from a guy that was angry at Trump because he got fired...

 

Foamfollower

(1,097 posts)
58. Memo was written two months before he was fired.
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:37 PM
May 2017

There is also a memo from each visit with Trump, and the memos of FBI agents are considered by court precedent as accurate accounts of events and jurists are instructed to accept them as such.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
71. Thanks for that information
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:53 PM
May 2017

I had heard that they can be accepted as evidence. But, I still think Team Trump will attempt to confuse the issue...

Azathoth

(4,607 posts)
24. Open and shut obstruction of justice.
Tue May 16, 2017, 05:56 PM
May 2017

And the GOP are enthusiastic accessories after the fact. A court somewhere is going to have to entertain a challenge to this Republic-ending insanity.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
26. This is exhausting.
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

I thought we'd gone a day without some kind of bullshit.

Obstructing the FBI? Jailing reporters? Leaking the most classified of information to the Russians?

Is he TRYING to get impeached? In 24 hours he's gone after the intelligence community, the Feds, and the entire fourth estate. I've said for decades that Trump was stupid, but sweet Jesus.

byronius

(7,391 posts)
62. Gregg Schneider wrote a beautiful piece about how the process ratchets toward the target.
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:47 PM
May 2017

Their 97% conviction rate relies on a ruthlessly methodical pursuit that often grinds the subject to paste before the actual arrest.

I also think this is Trump screaming at the Justice Department, trying to provoke a reaction. He's had enough, and wants a showdown.

But that's not how this works. Paste.

The Blue Flower

(5,434 posts)
27. Paper trail is always what you do when you have a bad boss
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:03 PM
May 2017

Basic workplace stuff, and this is at the highest level of government. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
31. Exactly
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:12 PM
May 2017

Even if you never need them, writing a contemporaneous memo detailing meetings is never a bad idea. I still have my memos for the record from my fed civil service days despite being retired about two decades.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
28. TURN OUT DA LIGHTS THE PARTY'S OVAH
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:06 PM
May 2017

IVANA/IVANKA (I don't remember which is which) START PACKIN' YER FUCKIN' BAGS!

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
34. Russia Russia Russia! Everything revolves around Russia. OMG. This is good evidence.
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:14 PM
May 2017

Trump will deny it, of course. But I don't think that fish will swim. When someone makes a memo describing a conversation at about the same time of the conversation, that's pretty strong and is admissible in court. This was way back in February.

Moostache

(9,895 posts)
38. Watergate was piker shit by comparison now...
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:26 PM
May 2017

1) Obstruction of Justice - multiple counts, plus intimidation and witness tampering
2) Violation of the Emoluments Clause
3) Collusion with a foreign power in the election
4) Solicitation of Russian hackers to attack Hillary Clinton
5) Whatever comes tomorrow...

Dopers_Greed

(2,640 posts)
39. We now have him on a major crime
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:29 PM
May 2017

What's the hold-up?

Time to put his fat ass in an orange (or flesh-tone in his case) jumpsuit.

ginnyinWI

(17,276 posts)
42. Did he actually think that firing Comey would end this?
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:33 PM
May 2017

Or maybe it was more primal: Comey was bad to him so he had to be punished. When they push against you, push back ten times as hard, right?

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
44. The plan was to fire him while he was in LA
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:36 PM
May 2017

So they could try to get those memos before he got back. lol

kentuck

(111,053 posts)
47. I guess the first question would go to Sessions and whomever else was asked to leave the room?
Tue May 16, 2017, 06:54 PM
May 2017

Did Donald Trump request to be left alone with the CIA Director?

Did he tell you about the meeting after Mr. Comey left?

What did he say?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
50. High crimes and misdemeanors
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:19 PM
May 2017

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
51. Comey must have shared this info with someone else. All he needs is someone to corroborate it.
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:24 PM
May 2017

If he shared it with Justice, then they are truly fucked.

Didn't someone say Comey's office is covered in police tape?

dhol82

(9,352 posts)
78. Reports are that he discussed the meetings with others who were aware of the meeting
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:58 PM
May 2017

He was wary about the dinner to begin with and wanted to make sure all the t's were crossed and i's dotted.

underpants

(182,631 posts)
52. Emails summarizing meetings is very common
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:26 PM
May 2017

To make sure everyone agrees, is on board, and higher ups know what was discussed

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
57. something horrible breaking every day with the orange one....
Tue May 16, 2017, 07:35 PM
May 2017

when are the recons going to grow a backbone and take the rat out!

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
63. obstruction of justice and conspiracy to cover up
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:01 PM
May 2017

the russian investigation. Perjury, political espionage and lying to the FBI may also be in the future for some of the trumpsters. Same same for the federal grand jury indictments of President Nixon’s top aides in 1974

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
64. This is why they have been squirming so much, distracting so much. Guilty of Obstruction of Justice.
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:06 PM
May 2017

Guilty of Obstruction of Justice how many times over??

Trump's New Impeachable Offenses: Obstruction of Justice, Conspiracy, Abuse of Power

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
65. You know, Pence is more
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:09 PM
May 2017

...dangerous than Trump because he's more competent.

He will destroy female reproductive rights.

He's a Christian right winger. In his acceptance speech he said "I'm a Christian first. An American second. And a Republican third."

That terrifying. He puts his interpretation of religion over the Constitution. Where will the wall separating Church and State be under Prez Pence?

Beartracks

(12,801 posts)
67. Don't worry, the anti-anti-Trumpers won't believe it.
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:31 PM
May 2017

Damn, that bubble MUST be getting smaller and tighter all the time. And even more opaque.

================

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
68. I used to work for the Federal government with a lot of political appointees.
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:37 PM
May 2017

I document every meeting I had with ALL superiors and a few underlings who were political appointees and a few career civil servants who were former political appointees. It's the only way to go! I needed my records of meetings more than once.

After each meeting with my direct supervisor I would produce a meeting summary for her or him to initial or make changes. One superior was so angry about this he refused to initial the memo to the record and told me I was overstepping my position...so I documented that too.

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