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For those who have been in the military, (Original Post) MineralMan May 2017 OP
True... Wounded Bear May 2017 #1
'Order' vs 'Request' elleng May 2017 #2
I'm not in the military but Jacquette May 2017 #3
But Comey wasn't military. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #4
The point is that Trump intended it to be an order. MineralMan May 2017 #6
OK, I get your point, but Comey either didn't take it as one, or The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #7
Yes, but he knew what Trump meant. MineralMan May 2017 #8
Of course, which is why he wrote it all down. The Velveteen Ocelot May 2017 #9
But Comey is a civilian canetoad May 2017 #5
No! Quite the contrary. trof May 2017 #10
I thought so canetoad May 2017 #11
You don't need to have been in the military... regnaD kciN May 2017 #12
 

Jacquette

(152 posts)
3. I'm not in the military but
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:34 PM
May 2017

I have watched plenty of Gomer Pyle, USMC..will that do?

Can he stop paying taxes because he's nominally head of the IRS? Can he build a casino in the Grand Canyon because he's in charge of the National Parks?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
4. But Comey wasn't military.
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:35 PM
May 2017

The role of CiC relates only to the military, not civilian agencies. Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution says "The President shall be Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy of the United States, and of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States." Trump, in his capacity as CiC, couldn't order Comey to do squat because he wasn't Comey's CiC.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,610 posts)
7. OK, I get your point, but Comey either didn't take it as one, or
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:40 PM
May 2017

if he did, he sure didn't feel obligated to obey it.

trof

(54,256 posts)
10. No! Quite the contrary.
Tue May 16, 2017, 08:44 PM
May 2017

As director of the FBI he is expected to be independent of politics.
The military CinC analogy doesn't hold here.
Besides, in the military you're obligated NOT to obey an unlawful order, which this sure would be.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
12. You don't need to have been in the military...
Tue May 16, 2017, 09:14 PM
May 2017

...just as Trump never was. But the rules are the same in corporations headed by an autocratic, egocentric CEO: a "request" means "do it, or you're fired."

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