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TeamPooka

(24,206 posts)
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:22 PM May 2017

Sure, we're talking about "impeachment" and "resignation" but Trump is probably talking about

"consolidating power" and "martial law."

We really don't know what he would do with his back against the wall.
You don't resign from a coup.
You just admit it's a coup and move on with your authoritarian state.
All approved by the GOP Congress that won't even let the Democrats in the room to negotiate the new health care law in the Senate.
I feel like we've brought a knife to a machine gun fight with the GOP.

We believe in the law.
That's why we are talking about impeachment and the Articles of the Constitution.
They don't believe in the law, except to mangle it for their agenda.
State's rights? Yes for abortion, but fuck that idea/concept for legal cannabis.

Acceptance (and/or collusion) with a Russian tainted Presidential election working with a gerrymandered Congress, and a stacked Supreme Court with a stolen Justice's seat sitting on the bench in the swing vote.
That's who we are fighting.
You can call it what you want but it sure feels like a coup to me.

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Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
1. I'm wary of that, but I think the situation is more like he's captain Kirk on the fake bridge of the
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:24 PM
May 2017

Enterprise, the chair is made of plywood and the buttons aren't actually connected to anything.

He's alienated everyone around him, I think he's rapidly getting to the point where he can't even order dinner.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
2. I think it's too late for that
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:25 PM
May 2017

It's unraveling too quickly. Some of the rats around him are slipping into every man for themselves as the jaws of justice close in.

Who could possibly have much confidence in Trump after the 110+ days and particularly the last week he's had?

The GOP will stretch it out for as long as they can take advantage and then they'll throw Trump to the wolves.

TeamPooka

(24,206 posts)
3. How do people who believe in the law compete against people willing to do these things to hold onto
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:31 PM
May 2017

power?

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
6. Like someone already said
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:42 PM
May 2017

they go after the little guys.

Manafort got slapped with a subpoena very recently. Flynn associates got hit with them last week.

There are reports of several sealed indictments.

They nail the little guys who squeal to get a reduced sentence and use the evidence they turn over to work their way up.

The number of investigations Rachel mentioned last night ... nobody can stop all of it.

Now the GOP may well do a bunch to hold the law off if their key folks also stand to get implicated with dirty Russian money ...

But I do not see that standing election after election.

To me, the next few years is the GOP's last stand. Non-white demographics are eventually going to overwhelm them.

renegade000

(2,301 posts)
4. I'm not worried about him consolidating power, rather...
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:34 PM
May 2017

I'm worried about him trying to stoke civil unrest and violence as he goes down.

He's lost the majority of the national security/law enforcement communities. Honestly, I don't see it as a matter of IF, but WHEN he gets taken down.

Probably worst case scenario for that is if he somehow managed to hightail it to Russia during an overseas trip and claimed to be some sort of government-in-exile while fomenting civil conflict remotely.

Kablooie

(18,609 posts)
5. It might be hard for him to get the military generals to back him.
Tue May 16, 2017, 10:35 PM
May 2017

But he could bring a gun into Congress and knock off a lot of his enemies before he goes.

ecstatic

(32,648 posts)
8. Usually, to inflict martial law, they have to stage a terror attack...
Wed May 17, 2017, 12:34 AM
May 2017

However, with the news that thump is going around leaking highly classified national security info, the only remedy the public would seek following an attack is the prompt removal of the man who put us in danger--Trump.

With this week's news, I no longer see a path to an authoritarian state. Of course, every day is a new scandal, so you never know...

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