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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Wed May 17, 2017, 06:53 AM May 2017

Pretend Clinton did what Trump has done: Our view

Imagine what would have happened had a President Hillary Clinton abruptly fired the man overseeing an investigation of her campaign’s ties to a hostile foreign government.

Imagine if the firing came, according to The New York Times, weeks after Clinton had asked the man to drop a probe of a close associate who had lied about conversations with that nation's ambassador.

Imagine, further, what would have happened had she invited the ambassador and foreign minister of that hostile government to the Oval Office at the request of their autocratic leader, closed the meeting to U.S. journalists, and claimed to have been tricked when the foreign adversary's media arm released chummy photos from the meeting.

And then imagine that she had used the meeting to share classified intelligence with the envoys.

Republicans in Congress and conservative news outlets would undoubtedly be clamoring for investigations, if not impeachment. After all, Clinton's critics spent years trying to make a capital case out of the Benghazi tragedy, then pounded her careless handling of sensitive information through her use of a private server for State Department emails.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/pretend-clinton-did-what-trump-has-done-our-view/ar-BBBdHYT?li=BBnb7Kz

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Pretend Clinton did what Trump has done: Our view (Original Post) mfcorey1 May 2017 OP
well mnmoderatedem May 2017 #1
We'd be at least a month into a Kaine presidency... JHB May 2017 #2
I happened to post about this yesterday on FB Orrex May 2017 #3
If it was Obama.. coco22 May 2017 #4
If Hillary had done what Trump has done... Else You Are Mad May 2017 #5
Do you really think so? oberliner May 2017 #7
In this hypothetical... Else You Are Mad May 2017 #8
What would Democrats be doing? oberliner May 2017 #6
The Point Is Me. May 2017 #9
There would be hellfire and damnation sermons in every drive-in church BeyondGeography May 2017 #10
Don't have to pretend samplegirl May 2017 #11
Difference is the Democrats would also be clamoring for investigations too. Zing Zing Zingbah May 2017 #12

mnmoderatedem

(3,723 posts)
1. well
Wed May 17, 2017, 06:59 AM
May 2017

you could spend the better part of forever saying "let's pretend Hilary or Obama had done what trump has done", on any number of subjects. And it would be a never ending reality of radically different outcomes.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
2. We'd be at least a month into a Kaine presidency...
Wed May 17, 2017, 07:04 AM
May 2017

...with the Republicans howling for him to step down too.

Orrex

(63,195 posts)
3. I happened to post about this yesterday on FB
Wed May 17, 2017, 07:09 AM
May 2017

The question was posted by a friend-of-a-friend: "What did Trump do today to piss Liberals off? Breathe?"

I answered that every day Trump does six or seven things that would have gotten Clinton assassinated, but his cowardly GOP enablers are like whatevs.


As noted upthread, we can speculate pointlessly all day about what might have happened if Obama or Clinton had done these things. It seems likely that this congress would have impeached any Democratic president who acted as Trump acts. Certainly the GOP would approve no cabinet nominees, and they would blame the resultant chaos on the Democratic president's "refusal" to nominate someone who represents the values of the American people blah blah blah. And the media would run with it, casting the Democrat as the out-of-touch elitist who can't even manage to staff their own cabinet.

I also rather suspect that Rightwing demagogues would "subtly" and steadily hint at the need for uprising or "some other action," culminating in an assassination attempt.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
5. If Hillary had done what Trump has done...
Wed May 17, 2017, 07:23 AM
May 2017

The Democratic party would have forced her to resign before she was impeached and we would have Kaine as president right now. I doubt the Republicans have the backbone to do that.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
8. In this hypothetical...
Wed May 17, 2017, 07:27 AM
May 2017

The Democrats would be looking out for the next few elections so they would have to get Hillary out if she did everything Trump did. I probably am giving too much credit to the Democratic party.

The tipping point. Well, with Trump it is a culmination of everything he has done thus far.

BeyondGeography

(39,367 posts)
10. There would be hellfire and damnation sermons in every drive-in church
Wed May 17, 2017, 07:48 AM
May 2017

across the land with hair spontaneously combusting in the aisles.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
12. Difference is the Democrats would also be clamoring for investigations too.
Wed May 17, 2017, 08:17 AM
May 2017

The Dems don't want to be associated with corruption. It is not good for the country or the party.

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