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Nearly 90 per cent of young women in US have experienced sexual harassment, report finds
Young people struggling to form and maintain healthy and fulfilling romantic relationships and deal with widespread misogyny and sexual harassment, study reveals
Despite a high rate of sexual assault among young people, 48 per cent of this group either agreed or were neutral about the idea that society has reached a point that there is no more double standard against women, report finds iStock
Nearly 90 per cent of young women in the US have experienced some form of sexual harassment during their lifetime, according to a new report. Despite the high number, the research carried out by the prestigious Harvard Graduate School of Education found that many weren't talking to their parents or educators about the issue. The study, based on a survey of more than 3,000 18 to 25-year-olds across the US, found that 87 per cent of young women reported having experienced some form of sexual harassment during their lifetime.
However, more than three quarters (76 per cent) of its respondents, both male and female, had never had a conversation with their parents about how to avoid sexually harassing others. More than half (56 per cent) of respondents meanwhile said they had never spoken with their parents about the importance of not pressuring someone to have sex, while an even higher proportion (62 per cent) had not spoken to their parents about the importance of not continuing to ask someone to have sex after they have said no. *********It also found that third of young men think they should be dominant in relationships. *********
The report also suggests that many young people struggle to develop healthy romantic relationships, due to the fact that both teens and adults tend to greatly overestimate the percentage of young people who are hooking up or having casual sex. This can lead to many teenagers and young adults feeling pressured to engage in sex when they are not interested or ready, it warned.
The authors of the report recommend that adults need to identify for teens common forms of misogyny and harassment, such as catcalling or using gender-based slurs, and that they should to talk to teens specifically about what respect and care concretely mean in any type of romantic relationship.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/sexual-harrassment-us-young-women-90-percent-titled-the-talk-a7740456.html
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I don't dispute the numbers but I'd be very interested in the underlying data. Mostly because other studies have put similar claims at anywhere from 25% to 75% depending upon specifically what was being discussed.
I also wish they had put numbers to the claim of over estimation of the casual sex rate among teens.
niyad
(113,261 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I'm curious about things like the number of incidents per person. The various forms and the distribution across the population. Age of first incident, things like that. I'm also curious just how much people are over estimating teens sexual behavior.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)of girls, teens, and young women. Their excuse would probably be that the 12 year old looked older -- to them.
It happens as soon as girls show signs of developing. Friends of mine were sexually harassed as early as 10. With me, it began at age 11 or 12.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)I've seen numbers between 25 and 75% depending upon exactly what was being discussed. Like I said, I don't dispute the numbers, but I'd be interested in their distribution and context.
What types of harassment started at 11 or 12 for example? How much of it qualifies as assault? (I've seen studies suggesting that 1 in 4 are assaulted by the age of 20).
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Every kind of harassment can start as soon as a girl begins to develop physically. When I was 12 and walking on a street in my suburban neighborhood, going to see a friend, a bunch of men from a building site suddenly interrupted their break to surround me, making remarks about my body and laughing and walking along with me. I kept my head down and kept walking. I was terrified. It was all over in less than a minute but the experience left its mark. After that, I crossed the street if I saw a construction site, or any group of men who looked like they could be trouble.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Ya know, that's always my first thought when I see that. You'd think ONE of those jerks would have a daughter and do just a LITTLE bit of introspection.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)and therefore was a fair target.
There's probably also the gang factor (not a literal gang - these were construction workers). Men in a group might egg each other on.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Harvard report: Millennials not interested in casual sex
http://abcnews.go.com/Lifestyle/harvard-report-millennials-interested-casual-sex/story?id=47447346
I think this is the full report from Harvard.
https://mcc.gse.harvard.edu/files/gse-mcc/files/mcc_the_talk_final.pdf
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Weird that its a UK source.
And what is with that photo (posted twice for some reason)?
Also, is there a link to the study itself?
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Reinforcing a stereotyped idea of what sexual harassment is.
The article implies that the harassment in question was not primarily of that type. I'd be curious to see the report itself.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Women will recognize the significance of that photo, even if men don't.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)But the article (and presumably the study) seems to be focused more on relationship coercion, particularly among students.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)Thanks!
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Edit to add: Here's a link to their story:
http://www.newsweek.com/misogyny-rife-america-study-proves-it-611574
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)don't inappropriately touch and grab other students, you are wrong.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I guess I just thought the stock photo was cheesy. Didn't really mean anything by it. What's really important is the results of the study itself. Here's hoping that it will move people to take action.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Middle and high school students violently "touch" each other. Violent assault is quite common. I'd estimate roughly on incident a month on average for about 6 years of my childhood. I applaud the whole anti-bullying movement going on, but we have a LONG way to go. Heck, we live in a very violently oriented culture.
Sexual assault is an act of violence. It's part of the larger culture of violence in which we live.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)I think you are again, confusing "infer" and "imply."
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Is that not accurate?
Orrex
(63,203 posts)The reply to you was an attempt at snark, suggesting that the problem is not that the article implies a certain thing but rather that you inferred that certain thing.
I thought the article seemed to imply that, but that could be a misunderstanding on my part (or could have been influenced by the Newsweek article that I also read on the same subject).
I'd be curious to see the actual report itself.
Do you know if there's a link to it somewhere?
Orrex
(63,203 posts)I took the photo as a generic representation of harassment, with the understanding that it wasn't intended to capture the entirety of the phenomenon.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I don't know, for some reason I thought the stock photo was cheesy and not really in keeping with the serious nature of the article (nor the thrust of what the study was about). But really, it doesn't matter. What is important is the content of the study and what people are willing to do in response.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Did you notice the computer in the photo -- a suggestion that they are at work? That would be a clear example of sexual harassment. And, yes, that kind of thing does happen.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I prefer the choice that Newsweek made with the photo they included with their version of the story to the stock picture chosen by this source. I won't belabor the point any further. It is not a big deal. I'm sorry I said anything.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Which means, age 12, or even younger in some cases.
niyad
(113,261 posts)worse by the day.
WhiskeyGrinder
(22,326 posts)"I never see sexual harassment!"
"I wish someone would compliment me all day!"
"Oh, that's just some creep."
Etc.
niyad
(113,261 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Ailes' lifetime career of oppressing the vulnerable and instructing others to do so will not pass quickly from this culture.
niyad
(113,261 posts)Orrex
(63,203 posts)k/r
niyad
(113,261 posts)Orrex
(63,203 posts)Hardy har har.
But in all seriousness, I'd offer a conservative estimate that approximately 100% of the women I know with familiarity have described their experiences with sexual harassment.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Orrex
(63,203 posts)It wasn't until very recently that I learned, for instance, that even young (tween) girls are subjected to frequent unwanted attention by adult males, and that they're fully aware of it as it happens. Skeevy and horrifying and, in retrospect, I shouldn't be surprised.
I was in my 20s before I started to become how pervasive it is, and I can't pretend to have been entirely blameless prior to that time. It was a different era, to be sure, but in retrospect I don't accept that as an excuse. I never assaulted anyone or anything at that level, but I had moments of boorishness that make now-me want to kick then-me's ass.
I have benefited hugely from several strong women rhetorically smacking me upside the head over the years, without whose influence I would have been much slower to open my eyes.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)and she corrected me -- she developed earlier than I, so she wasn't even 10.
Grown men following girls down the street, making kissing noises or pinching. Even being honked at feels intrusive, though you feel safer when they're in a car.
hunter
(38,310 posts)I'm a male but it seems similar to the bullying I suffered as a kid. There were always a few adults in positions of authority who would try to convince me it was my fault whenever some bully beat me bloody. All I had to do was "be a man" or something.
As a skinny, squeaky, highly reactive kid, that wasn't in the cards. The best I could manage was some sort of invisibility.