Enough With the Terrorism Porn

[lovemydogs]

I am very sorry for the people in Manchester who lost their lives and are critically injured. I am sorry for everyone who has died or had been hurt in a terror attack.
Terrorism is a sad thing that is all too common these days everywhere.
Resentful and angry people carrying out their problems by killing.
But, I am sick of the Terrorism Porn.
When there is an attack in Europe these days, the news goes on a 24 to 48 hour terrorism orgy.
All Terrorism all the time.
We see the same footage hundreds of times.
If there is nothing new they fill the airwaves with the same material over and over again.
Nothing else is discussed and no other news is talked about.
All we get is deluged with Terrorism porn.
I, for one, am sick to death of it.
We do not need wall to wall coverage of nothing but,
Then we wonder why so many people are in fetal positions over terrorism and think there is a terrorist around every corner.

[Jane Austin]

1. I so agree.

Speculation and the same brief B-roll over and over.

ld

[demmiblue]

2. Go away. n/t

[DrDan]

116. yep - agree

[Warpy]

3. Manchester has seen worse

like the 1996 IRA truck bombing. There were no deaths because sufficient warning had been issued, but a major part of the city's retail and office infrastructure was either damaged or destroyed.

Terrorism might have changed religion but the UK is used to it enough that people will just carry on with their lives.

The real panic will happen among Trumpers in flyover country in the US.

[linuxman]

6. LOL

"Seen worse"

"No deaths"

Maybe if a Starbucks and a few offices are worth more to you than the least among us.

[grossproffit]

11. Just when I thought I couldn't be any more disgusted. I can't believe people want to stifle this

discussion.

[Warpy]

17. It blew up the whole downtown

and it took them many years to recover.

It's just an example of why the UK will take this in stride. They are used to nutcases with imagined grievances against civilians.

But please enjoy your righteous indignation. Wouldn't spoil it for the world.

[linuxman]

49. How long did it take the dead?

[catbyte]

69. Not to mention The Blitz in WWII. Manchester was leveled with thousands of deaths.

I got your point, Warpy; I don't know why others didn't.

[Warpy]

76. Their concern has been duly noted

and given all the consideration it deserves.

Thank you, I'm glad somebody got the point.

[Heartstrings]

78. I get it.....

not sure why the overindulgement of the media coverage is so difficult to understand. Not like you didn't show empathy for the victims, etc. in the beginning of your op.

[WinkyDink]

99. Don't forget the Vikings! And the Romans!

[whathehell]

127. Yeah..I don't think property destruction equals an 8 year old's death

Bad analogies.

[lovemydogs]

10. I remember when IRA terror was news but, not 24/7

[Warpy]

15. The only 24 hour news was CNN when Turner was in control

and they still did in depth stories to fill air time instead of repeating the same thing over and over again for 24 hours or until another story popped up.

[uppityperson]

85. People shouldn't be impacted by this because "Manchester has seen worse"? They should what?

Shrug off any pain, grief, sorrow about those killed, hurt, instead just "carry on with their lives"?

[WinkyDink]

98. So "no deaths" is worse to you than 24 deaths? All-righty, then.

[uppityperson]

129. "It is the worst attack the city has experienced and the worst ever to hit the north of England.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/may/23/theresa-may-condemns-sickening-cowardice-of-manchester-attack

May said: “This was among the worst terrorist incidents we have ever experienced in the UK and although it is not the first time Manchester has suffered in this way, it is the worst attack the city has experienced and the worst ever to hit the north of England.”

[furtheradu]

4. Yes, & meanwhile, trump crimes are off page 1.

I enCourage You & like-Minded others to let msm know Your (& mine) thoughts. Just cuz they seem to only be capable of holding 1 thought at a time, doesn't mean WE are so afflicted.

[whathehell]

130. False -- Trump scandal getting equal coverage

at least on MSNBC.

[brooklynite]

5. UNREC

This is news. They'll get back to the Trump scandals tomorrow.

[shraby]

8. I rec this thread. The news did the same thing with 911. Loop the loop.

If they have something new, then they can add. But until then, it's not good to run the same scenes over and over and over and over ad infinitum.

[brooklynite]

9. But endlessly reporting the same Trump/Russia story is ok?

I don't recall any complaints when it's a story people like.

What would you like 24-hour news channels to fill their time with?

[notdarkyet]

77. Yeah, I'm tired of trump porn. Feels too much like propaganda. Mostly talking

About his speeches and comments. The way he looks and talks make me sick. If I see his face I turn off the tv.

[WinkyDink]

95. I'm going to call this generation the ADD Generation. Tweets must be too long for many!

[grossproffit]

14. Children are missing, others are dead. This is reality. Ignoring it won't make it go away.

[jberryhill]

55. Missing and dead children are ignored every day

No one is saying to "ignore" anything.

If this was a drunk hitting a school bus, it would not get full-on coverage to the exclusion of all else.

Tell me why that is? It's got nothing to do with the death of children.

[WinkyDink]

96. Not by the dozens, they aren't. Not by a bomb, they aren't.

[uppityperson]

41. It's been 2 hours since it happened. People are seriously saying it's too long?

[WinkyDink]

93. Who says so?? Not everyone watches TV on your schedule. And anyone who could say there was

too much coverage of 9/11, well, I'm sorry, but I can't take your opinion seriously.

It was ONLY the most important event in our and arguably the Middle East's history this century.

[lovemydogs]

13. Has nothing to do with Trump. Its redundant

[grossproffit]

7. This IS news. If you don't want to see it then trash the thread. Others want to discuss it.

[jberryhill]

12. It's what terrorists want, so we give it to them

[lovemydogs]

16. There have been terror attacks by nationalists, IRA in the 80s, ect.

It was news but, not wall to wall all day long.
This is why so many muslim americans are subjects of hate crimes, why Trump wants a ban, ect.
It's treated way different from other terror attacks and it causes the unceasing hate of muslims.
It's also just plain boring to hear the same crap over and over and over with nothing new - nothing to add

[grossproffit]

18. Seriously? Children are dead and many still missing and this is your concern? Talk about boorish.

[uppityperson]

29. Maybe they'll show grotesque blown up children to relieve your boredom with the story.

It. Just. Happened.

[snooper2]

124. luckily your OP won't change anything

[brooklynite]

19. I always wondered why the networks didn't break away from their 9/11 coverage...

...for a panel discussion on Bush's tax policies.

[demmiblue]

20. This pretty much JUST HAPPENED.

What the fuck is wrong with the people who are agreeing with the OP and reccing this thread?

Sick *****

[Codeine]

23. Some people believe making some sort of

political purity statement grants them moral superiority, rather than making them look like dicks.

They're wrong.

[Jno_Gilmor_]

113. +1

[TDale313]

35. +1

[Codeine]

22. Wow. Your priorities are fucked up. nt

[Bernardo de La Paz]

32. No. Manchester can be looked in on once every few hours. Unplug your TV.

TV is not a health making device.

24/7 coverage when there is essentially little news at a slow rate is not healthy.

THAT'S a priority.

[Codeine]

33. I haven't watched any of it.

I get my news online. Seems like the OP could do the same thing and avoid falling prey to "boredom" and then making an ass of themself on DU.

I spent the last few hours catching up on Handmaid's Tale and sorting some Magic: the Gathering cards rather than railing online against the supposed horror and boredom of breaking news coverage.

[RhodeIslandOne]

24. Are you really really sorry?

Or just feel you need to lead with that before you get to the point where you admit you don't care?

[uppityperson]

27. It just happened. Of course they'll be covering it. Let them at least get the bodies out.

[cornball 24]

28. I can only imagine the reaction of those people who have lost their loved ones in

this horrific attack if they knew that the word "porn" was used in describing the reporting of this atrocity.

[jberryhill]

34. You want your screaming child on continuous loop

on international television for hours?

You think that anyone wants that?

You want the death of your child to be a media spectacle? So that advertisers can make money?

[cornball 24]

42. No response warranted!

[uppityperson]

44. Since the bodies haven't cooled, I doubt having your dead chikd on tv is of minimal importance

[jberryhill]

45. We give these terrorists what they want

So anyone who doesn't amount to shit can command the airwaves for days.

It's what they want.

[uppityperson]

60. I agree, days is too much. It's only been a few hours yet now though.

[WinkyDink]

100. To bring home the reality, maybe I damn well would.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

30. The risk of death via terrorism is dwarfed by other causes. But terror delivers eyeballs.

Porn of any kind is supported by the consumers of it. Therefore, don't consume it and encourage your friends and neighbors to not indulge themselves. Especially when it makes them unhealthy (stress, poor decision-making (bad choices voting), etc.).

[DeminPennswoods]

31. Well said

When there's new news, break in and report, but otherwise, back to regular scheduled programming.

I suppose a positive is that I don't have hear about Trump's first Euro/ME visit.

[milestogo]

36. This just happened 4 hours ago and you're sick of it? You're calling it porn?

Sickening.

[melman]

38. philosslayer?

[Leith]

39. Gosh, What a Shame That Your TV Doesn't Get Any Other Channels

or have an off switch.

Think of it this way: news like this is meant to be watched a few minutes at a time with a couple hours between tuning in. Treat it like that. Go watch HGTV, Spike, TVLand, or whatever you like. Go back to a news channel during commercials to see if there has been any new developments.

Just quit with the First World Problem of having too much news on the biggest event of the day.

[hrmjustin]

40. i lost friends in a terrorist attack.

Your post is foolish!

[Bleacher Creature]

43. The moment we treat a terrorist attack as a non-story, we've essentially normalized it.

And I refuse to do that any more than I'm willing to normalize Trump and all his misdeeds.

I have many, many issues with the 24-hour news cycle, but this isn't the place to wage that fight.

[jberryhill]

46. It's not "story v. non-story". That's a false dichotomy.

[Bleacher Creature]

50. Then what's the point of this thread?

And I'm not asking rhetorically - I really don't get it.

If it's about the wall to wall coverage, that's more of a criticism of the way news is covered these days, i.e., the lead story gets the most air time.

[jberryhill]

53. It's the ONLY story

It is what people who do this sort of thing want

[Wounded Bear]

47. I turned it off after an hour or so...

Most of the shit they put out in the first few hours ends up being bullshit anyway.

I agree, and I feel for those directly affected, but I can't watch 12 hours of that shit. Too depressing.

[SCVDem]

73. Rachel said as much

Without the shit of course.

That's why I watched the first loop and will check back every few for updates.

Let's give things a chance to progress and let the facts come out.

Isn't speculation just 'fake news?'

[Wounded Bear]

74. That's how much of it starts...nt

[aikoaiko]

48. "the news goes on a 24 - 48 hour terrorism orgy". Yeah, that's a really long time.

This topic should only get 20 minutes. 30 minutes tops.

[JenniferJuniper]

54. They have little solid information

and keep running the same clips over and over with on-call pundits who know nothing about the event blathering endlessly.

It IS a terrorism orgy. They fucking love it and it's sick.

Report what you know about the story. Keep us updated as relevant information comes in. But stop the endless, breathless speculating and pontificating.

[cwydro]

51. Something is very wrong with you.

Ugh.

[lovemydogs]

59. Because you don't see what this is doing.

It stirs up people into their 'a terrorist around every corner' paranoia. Instead of common sense they get people whipped up.
It causes the hate mongers to attack innocents as revenge.
It keeps the whole terror media industry going and plays into people like Pam Geller who uses it to whip up hate
They only do this when a muslim is involved. If it was some crank who did it they would pull away after an hour.
The media become uninterested if it is not 'muslim terror'

[lovemydogs]

64. You obviously do not remember when the media left after an hour or so when it did not involve

a muslim attack.

They go nuts when something happens and they think its some muslim terrorist thing. Once it turns out it is not, the media looses interest.
I find it wrong and sick that for 15 years the media has promoted this Business of the evil muslim.

[cwydro]

67. Bullshit.

Keep rationalizing.

I actually feel sorry for you.

And again, ugh.

[WinkyDink]

106. Why are you concerned about imaginary revenge more than about the real murders? Muslims

AREN'T the VICTIMS here!

[NRaleighLiberal]

52. does your TV have an on/off switch? and a channel selector?

[lovemydogs]

58. Actually I am streaming other things. I just find the whole terror porn obscene

And its hurtful.
People get hurt after the media has its terrorism orgy because they only do this with one group

[NRaleighLiberal]

62. Yup. But it is a raw topic - time for tolerance and understanding more than anything else

tolerance of lots of points of view on how people cope.

My solution - I've not watched TV in 10 years. I just dab into the news on the internet. But that's my approach - whatever works for everyone - not for me to say.

I do understand your point. It isn't only terrorism events or politics - it is also reality shows, ads, etc.

Make mine movies!

[cilla4progress]

56. I agree

Part of what's so wrong with our media...

[lovemydogs]

57. Do People honestly think it would be nonstop coverage if it was not a muslim attack?

They do not do wall to wall droning when it's a white nationalist. Or some other group.
I find it awful that they do this only with one group. And you see the fall out days afterwards when innocent muslim americans are assaulted here in this country because the media has to sensationalize these things only when it involves muslims

[RhodeIslandOne]

63. How many attacks by white nationalists have killed dozens/hundreds/thousands at a time?

I recall Oklahoma City getting a lot of coverage on CNN back in the day.

Long time between big scores from white nationalists though.

[melman]

65. I haven't seen that confirmed anywhere

Where are you getting that?

[WinkyDink]

88. Ah. Truth will out. You perceive different victims here. Just not the dead ones.

[Squinch]

103. For an attack of this magnitude, of course there would be nonstop coverage. Just as there

was with the Oklahoma bombing.

[leftynyc]

110. How do YOU know it was a Muslim attack

This post of yours was from last night and as of this morning, they still haven't announced the killer's name. Seems a bit premature to be so sure it's a Muslim, doesn't it?

[yuiyoshida]

61. What is this complaint with boredom???

The one thing I really hate are people who complain about being BORED. They need to take a break and go for a walk or something. WE are not PAID to entertain you. IF you are bored take it elsewhere instead of bitching about it. No one wants to hear your bitch about being bored. That's your problem, not ours.

Wishing we still had UNREC.

[lovemydogs]

66. It is boring to hear the same old breathless coverage and pushing the muslim as evil

They say the same things in the same way time after time.
It is boring to the whole 'here we go again'. Nonstop Islamic terror is out to kill everyone!
It is awful and it is boring that for 15 years they have been doing the same thing

[yuiyoshida]

68. YOU know what? IF you are BORED...

Do something else. No one here is paid to entertain you. If you hate it than go play video games. ITS YOUR PROBLEM, Don't lay it our feet, if you want to go out and find your own news story than post it, otherwise, no one here wants to hear you complain.


Fuck, we have a President with a Low attention span and all he does is say crap so he can be entertained because he is bored.

[melman]

79. You keep saying that

Yet here you are repeatedly calling this a 'muslim attack' when that has not been confirmed anywhere.


Odd.

[WinkyDink]

89. Well, maybe if Muslims stopped their terrorist attacks: Manchester; Orlando; Paris; London; San

Bernardine; Pan Am 103; Ft. Hood; .....

Yes, I can see how ennui could set in when hearing news of yet another attack.

[leftynyc]

112. Who on the news even mentioned Muslims?

They still haven't IDd the killer. It seems the only one who wants to shut up the news because YOU think it was done by Muslims (who according to you are the REAL victims) is YOU. I wonder why YOU made that assumption.

[Jno_Gilmor_]

114. +1

[lovemydogs]

70. Has anyone seen the media stick around when it is not a muslim attack?

Outside of the Dylan Roof thing, the media cuts coverage when it turns out that the person involved in some incident is not a muslim terrorist.
They use it and play on it and it keeps the whole fear and hate of middle eastern people going.
The refugees were widely rejected because so many people kept thinking that they were mostly terrorists because they were muslim.
The media uses it as porn for them and promotes alot of hate and keeping that going on.
There needs to be much more common sense coverage

[lovemydogs]

71. I personally think the media needs to cover these things with alot more common sense

[southerncrone]

72. Same ole play script: "Terror, terror, terror!"

It works so well for them, they always default to it in times of trouble.

[WinkyDink]

90. What is your basic problem with calling an actual terrorist attack, terrorism?

[G_j]

75. Certainly, it's the way they report it

but they pretty much suck at reporting anything.

[shadowmayor]

80. It's because England is a "friendly" place like France or Belgium etc.

When the bombs go off in Baghdad, or any other parts of the Middle East or Afghanistan, not such a big deal, especially when the bombs come from the US. For one thing, western media vacated those war zones years ago. What Manchester is dealing with tonight is what Iraqis have been dealing with for over a decade. It's "old" news and empathy fatigue set in long ago. If it bleeds it leads really depends on who's doing the bleeding and where they live.

[melman]

81. Well you could say the opposite happens here

People instantly go into 'not a big deal' mode because this happened in England.

[shadowmayor]

84. Yeppers

It feels a little too close to "home".

[Not Ruth]

82. Hurting children gets news headlines

I would not be surprised at a national day of morning.

[rzemanfl]

125. Welcome to DU. As your welcome gift, here's a letter "u."

[Beartracks]

83. It definitely gives the terrorists what they want.

Coverage. Visibility. Immortality.

=============

[jodymarie aimee]

86. 100% agree, dogs

Fuckface is speaking now and it is obscene.

[WinkyDink]

87. Gee, another thread on how this is all just "TOO MUCH MANCHESTER!!!" Wow. You can't even stand a

morning's worth of news devoted to a terrorist attack in a major city.

Perhaps one might watch the Nickelodeon Channel instead?

[HAB911]

91. Fits right in with Food Porn and Realtor Porn

Food Porn = Cooking Network, Food Network, Recipe Network
Realtor Porn = HGTV, DIY, Beachfront bargain hunt, Property Brothers, etc

We are a porn obsessed nation

[WinkyDink]

92. This is a bizarre use of the term. Do you realize that DOZENS of CHILDREN were slain?? That

WORLD LEADERS are speaking out?

Surely you know that Obama would have been amongst them, we're he POTUS.

[HAB911]

94. Which one?

Terrorism, Food, or Realtor?

[WinkyDink]

97. ALL THREE. It's facile, for one thing. For another, it is repulsive to

regard the reporting of a major tragedy as "porn."

Try checking the word's etymology.

[HAB911]

101. Porn

2. television shows, articles, photographs, etc., thought to cater to an excessive, irresistible desire for or interest in something: a magazine filled with enticing food porn; an addiction to real-estate porn.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/porn?s=t

One great thing about the English language, it never sits still

[WinkyDink]

104. Yeah, I know; I taught it for 30 years. Studied the history of it. That's why

I used the word "etymology" and not "definition."

V

[HAB911]

105. Well good for you!

We need all the good teachers we can get these days!

[WinkyDink]

109. Look, this is a major crime and tragedy. It is simply, what would be the word, naive?

Ingenuous? Disingenuous? Plain silly? To think, expect, or hope that news channels would, in the first few hours, not make Manchester a top priority.

That one morning's worth of coverage would prompt someone to post about being "bored"; or that this coverage qualifies for the vernacular "porn"; or that gee, I sure wish I could hear about all the other news that I haven't heard of for oh, about 8 hours now....

is distressing.

Why don't they go for a walk or, hey, just turn to a non-news channel?!

[HAB911]

111. I'm with you

but just think you are getting a little too worked up over the OP and my post. (go for a walk or, hey, just turn to a non-news channel, get away from DU for awhile?!)

[Squinch]

102. On 9/11, as a New Yorker, I found I needed to watch the news about it somewhat compulsively.

I needed it to penetrate the shock and to come to terms with what happened.

That said, from a couple of days after to this day I need to turn away from any images of the time.

But in those hours after, there was an important integration and catharsis taking place, and the news helped with that.

[leftynyc]

107. Very easy to call it porn

when it wasn't YOUR 10 year old daughter that got blown up - parents and kids are still trying to find eachother. I'm so very sorry that it inconveniences you so much. I swear, it's becoming more and more obvious that degenerate donnie's election hasn't only made right wingers nasty and mean.

As for you, turn off the tv and do something useful.

[DrDan]

117. +1

[cwydro]

119. Good post.

This OP sickens me.

115 posts? Perhaps it'll be gone soon.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

131. +1

How do you get 41 recs for this POS ? WTF ?

[BeyondGeography]

108. Poor you

[Lee-Lee]

118. Welcome to the harsh world

Ignoring doesn't make it any less real.

I would rather there be too much coverage and people be exposed to the harsh reality that is out there than it be glossed over like it's no big deal.

Because while you may not agree this is a big deal. That we are seeing suicide bombers move more into Western nations from the Middle East represents a paradigm change in how these types are operating and shows an increased level of sophistication. These are all things that, even if they are like you and don't want to know about it, people should be aware of.

[Ace Rothstein]

120. This thread is an embarrassment to this site.

Please consider deleting.

[leftynyc]

121. Agree

Although many are calling out the OP for the crap it is. Poster should (at least) consider deleting it.

[cwydro]

122. I agree.

I don't think I've ever felt this level of disgust at any one poster before.

The OP is tone deaf at best; I won't say what I really think about it.

[Coventina]

123. Especially considering it popped up within an hour or so of the news breaking.

Ridiculous.

[hrmjustin]

133. Agreed!

[whathehell]

126. It's not just terrorism that gets excessive media coverage...Disasters and

unexpected celebrity deaths do as well..Michael Jackson's death got a solid two weeks of TV coverage. I thought I'd go insane.

[Not Ruth]

128. Was just reading about the 8 year old with tears in my eyes

This time is different.

[mentalsolstice]

132. Watching MSNBC right now, covering Russians

And 45s arrival in Rome. So I guess that 24-48 hour orgy didn't pan out for you.

[Not Ruth]

134. The bomber spent his school break fighting in Libya

Born in Manchester to Libyan parents. BBC Newsnight reported that when Abedi was 16 he fought against the Colonel Gaddafi regime with his father during the school holidays.
It was while at Manchester College that two people who knew Abedi have confirmed they made separate calls to an anti-terrorism hotline to warn the police about his extremist views.
One of the mosques attended by Abedi and his family in Didsbury, south Manchester, has said it has a "lot to learn" to deter young people from extremist ideologies.
Greater Manchester Police have made an appeal to the public for information about Abedi's movements since 18 May, when he returned to the UK from abroad.
The home secretary would not comment specifically on what the security service knew about Abedi, but insisted it was right for MI5 to review its processes because "the threat is always changing".
The Times is reporting that a "key" tool which gives law enforcement the power to stop Britons suspected of involvement in terrorist activity abroad at the UK border has only been used once since it was introduced in 2015.
Ms Rudd said it was not for her to demand that a certain number of Temporary Exclusion Orders be used, but to make sure the security service has the "tools they can use" to protect the public.
"We need to put our efforts into protecting young people," she told BBC News. "People in our communities who are being targeted by Daesh [the Islamic State terror group] and fed a false ideology."
She said the government had "never understated" the threat of a terror attack in the UK, adding: "We have to level with people."
Schedule 7 of the Terrorism Act 2000 gives the police the power to stop, search and hold individuals at ports, airports and international railway stations.
Initially individuals could be questioned for up to nine hours - although a change in the guidelines means it is now up to six hours. The police also have the power to inspect electronic devices such as phones and laptops.
The police also have the power to seize travel documents for up to 14 days if they believe someone is travelling in order to engage in terrorist activity.
Another option is a Temporary Exclusion Order (TEO), which can be used against British citizens suspected of involvement in terrorist activity abroad. They are designed to stop suspects from re-entering the UK unless they give themselves up at the border.
Police say their investigation is "making good progress" and has around 1,000 people working on it.
In total 16 people have been arrested - but a woman and a 16-year-old boy were later released without charge.
The UK threat level has been reduced from critical to severe and soldiers deployed to support the police will be gradually withdrawn from Monday night.