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Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:09 PM May 2017

Nothing good has come from Bush's war. Not Bush II's war but Bush I's war.

Think about it. The Gulf War of 1990 has lead directly to the 9/11 attacks, the Afghanistan war, the Iraq invasion and occupation, Bin Laden, Al Qeda, ISIL, more terrorist attacks in the U.S., Europe, Africa, and Asia.

All of this because Saddam invaded Kuwait. Something that we could have solved with diplomacy.

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Nothing good has come from Bush's war. Not Bush II's war but Bush I's war. (Original Post) Yavin4 May 2017 OP
Plenty of good was derived if... Zoonart May 2017 #1
Well, you're talking about the "chain" zipplewrath May 2017 #2
Republicans got themselves a "War President." moondust May 2017 #3
You have to go back further and further ProudLib72 May 2017 #4

Zoonart

(11,832 posts)
1. Plenty of good was derived if...
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:11 PM
May 2017

you were a member of the Carlyle Group or held stock in Halliburton.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
2. Well, you're talking about the "chain"
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:20 PM
May 2017

You're starting at a link in the long chain, ignoring all that came before.

Yes, there is a direct series of decisions that connects all of that. But there were many points in that chain where the links could have been "broken". But that chain starts WAY back in history, and again there have been multiple opportunities to break that chain.

Until we, as a culture really, get over the idea that we can kill our way out of our problems and into peace and prosperity, this chain will keep growing longer. We expanded our war in Afghanistan after GWB, and it really has accomplished nothing. We've tried to assassinate away terrorism, only to create even more terrorists. We think drones somehow will empower us to kill more effectively. It has not.

Wage law enforcement, not war.

moondust

(19,958 posts)
3. Republicans got themselves a "War President."
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:44 PM
May 2017

I suppose they were disappointed that old Reagan didn't start any big, heroic wars to show everybody how macho and unafraid he was. Lucky for them George came along and saved their image as the great heroes who ain't afraid to use force, by God! They ain't no pussies! (Except then they complained for years that he "didn't finish the job" by getting Saddam and...the rest is history.)

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
4. You have to go back further and further
Tue May 23, 2017, 01:51 PM
May 2017

Even this doesn't provide a complete take.

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