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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:22 PM May 2017

North Dakota Democrat rejects the Trump resistance: "I think that's a waste of my time"

WEDNESDAY, MAY 24, 2017 04:58 AM EDT

North Dakota Democrat rejects the Trump resistance: “I think that’s a waste of my time”

Heidi Heitkamp, one of the must vulnerable Democrats in the Senate, complains that fighting Trump is not persuasive

MATTHEW SHEFFIELD

In a Monday meeting with a state business group, Sen. Heidi Heitkamp, a North Dakota Democrat, said that the staunch “Resistance” position many of her party members are taking toward President Donald Trump is “a waste of my time.”

“The thing is that there are two things that are happening that are really challenging us,” Heitkamp told the North Dakota Chamber of Commerce, according to a video that was posted of the proceedings.

“One is the resist movement. Which is nothing. Just resist, right? Don’t do anything, just resist,” she said.



According to Heitkamp, merely resisting Trump is not a way to achieve good public policy. “I think that’s a waste of my time, if all I’m there for is to resist,” Heitkamp said. “That’s not persuasive.”

While Heitkamp has said she opposes to Trump’s current health care plan, she has also voted to confirm his picks to head up the Department of Energy, the Environmental Protection Agency and the Department of the Interior. She also joined the GOP in voting for a repeal of an Obama-era regulation on coal mine pollution into streams and rivers.

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http://www.salon.com/2017/05/24/north-dakota-democrat-rejects-the-trump-resistance-i-think-that-is-a-waste-of-my-time/
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North Dakota Democrat rejects the Trump resistance: "I think that's a waste of my time" (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
She's really a DINO then, isn't she? As if 'just resisting' is doing nothing. F her! Sculpin Beauregard May 2017 #1
She will pull a Lieberman as soon as the Party moves to the left. Good riddance Heidi. jalan48 May 2017 #2
Yep. dalton99a May 2017 #4
Well, she shows us that not all Democrats are good. Doreen May 2017 #3
Heidi's take: "'RESIST' is just a word Dems say when things are being said". oasis May 2017 #5
Invoking SNL routine here between Akroyd ane Curtain benld74 May 2017 #6
I tend to agree gratuitous May 2017 #7
Does this mean you'd prefer to see a Republican senator, rathar than an imperfect Democrat? NurseJackie May 2017 #15
I'm saying that Heitkamp is following a recipe for failure gratuitous May 2017 #22
Out come will be the same either way zipplewrath May 2017 #26
LOL NurseJackie May 2017 #27
The Republicans had a decent amount of success with that strategy during the Obama inwiththenew May 2017 #8
Does she think she's going to win over Trumpsters? uponit7771 May 2017 #9
She has to win about 20% of Trump voters to geek tragedy May 2017 #11
Trump beat Hillary 2-1 in NoDak. geek tragedy May 2017 #10
If all you are doing is kowtowing to Neo-Fascism out of political expediency . . . HughBeaumont May 2017 #12
Would you feel the same way if she was the 51st Dem in the senate? That's not "useless" is it? NurseJackie May 2017 #18
Counterfactual Fallacy. HughBeaumont May 2017 #24
LOL! NurseJackie May 2017 #25
have not walked a mile in her shoes dembotoz May 2017 #13
Chamber of Commerce? No wonder she doesn't want to resist mvd May 2017 #14
What if she was the 51st Dem in the senate? Would you still want to kick her to the curb? NurseJackie May 2017 #17
Heidi is a fucking disgrace n/m RhodeIslandOne May 2017 #16
Even worse going to business and complaining about the resistance mvd May 2017 #20
Heidi sounds like a big "waste of time". Cha May 2017 #19
Hi Cha mvd May 2017 #21
Standing Rock Human Beings still need to drink water.....and we were the FIRST to RESIST......... turbinetree May 2017 #23
I'll bet she's in for a Primary challenge next go around JDC May 2017 #28

oasis

(49,376 posts)
5. Heidi's take: "'RESIST' is just a word Dems say when things are being said".
Wed May 24, 2017, 12:43 PM
May 2017

She prefers the "OSTRICH" approach to Trump's administration.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
7. I tend to agree
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:04 PM
May 2017

Resistance - by itself - isn't sufficient. Is Sen. Heitkamp out there with Sen. Warren, Sen. Merkley, Sen. Sanders, and others in coming up with counterproposals, and supporting the Democratic platform? Because I will say that her Senate career can be measured in a very short term if all she is offering as a Senator is Republican lite. Faced with a choice of that or a real Republican, North Dakotans will probably select the Republican. If you're going to lose, you might as well lose as a Democrat, Sen. Heitkamp.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
22. I'm saying that Heitkamp is following a recipe for failure
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:56 PM
May 2017

She is presenting herself as a Democrat who will betray the party's platform and subvert the party's resistance to the Trump administration's ill-considered programs. In 2018, North Dakotans will consider whether to re-elect Heitkamp for another six years or replace her with a Republican. I predict they'll choose the real deal Republican for the Senate. Heitkamp was elected as a Democrat; she should act like one.

EDITED TO ADD: While I agree with Heitkamp that resistance by itself is not a path to good governance, it's about the only weapon the Democrats have to work with right now, being out of the White House and in the minority of both houses of Congress. Certainly the Republicans didn’t suffer with the electorate from 2009 to 2017 for doing little except saying “no” to governing responsibly.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
26. Out come will be the same either way
Wed May 24, 2017, 04:56 PM
May 2017

Roughly the interpretation is that, using her current approach, one will end up with a Republican senator whether wanted or not. The only possible hope of any other outcome is to be vastly more democratic. The odds are better that she'll win if she stakes out a uniquely different position than her ultimate opponent, not showing how little difference there is.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
8. The Republicans had a decent amount of success with that strategy during the Obama
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:09 PM
May 2017

Presidency. They threw up every roadblock they could. Ended up getting Supreme Court pick they shouldn't have. Turnabout is fair play right?

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
12. If all you are doing is kowtowing to Neo-Fascism out of political expediency . . .
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:18 PM
May 2017

. . . that makes you an accessory. In other words, less than useless.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
24. Counterfactual Fallacy.
Wed May 24, 2017, 02:06 PM
May 2017

If Ifs, Ands or Buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.

Two Senate "Dems" are the reason we don't have multi-payer.

One of those Senate "Dems" is one of the top three reasons Gore lost 2000.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
25. LOL!
Wed May 24, 2017, 03:51 PM
May 2017


Hooray for purity and perfection!

All or nothing!

Pride before pragmatism!

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Two Senate "Dems" are the reason we don't have multi-payer.
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Without a majority we'd have had even LESS. But hey... purity and all that.

dembotoz

(16,799 posts)
13. have not walked a mile in her shoes
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:24 PM
May 2017

as a dem she already has a target on her back.
lord knows it takes guts to be a dem in north dakota

perhaps she is our best option in that state

mvd

(65,173 posts)
14. Chamber of Commerce? No wonder she doesn't want to resist
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:41 PM
May 2017

I'd be for a primary challenger if there is a viable one like in West Virginia. The resistance will go on without her.

Cha

(297,141 posts)
19. Heidi sounds like a big "waste of time".
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:53 PM
May 2017

Glad she's opposed to his vile non health care plan.. that's big of her.

mvd

(65,173 posts)
21. Hi Cha
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:56 PM
May 2017

We respresent different tactics sometimes but we both want Trump resistance big time.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
23. Standing Rock Human Beings still need to drink water.....and we were the FIRST to RESIST.........
Wed May 24, 2017, 01:59 PM
May 2017

She also joined the GOP in voting for a repeal of an Obama-era regulation on coal mine pollution into streams and rivers.

And we have not forgotten.................ever, and "we" are the resistance forever, defending our Mother Earth, and our scared lands, and it is not a waste of time.................it is life

(Old Petition, that this person got, and did nothing, she did nothing)

http://pac.petitions.moveon.org/sign/senator-heidi-heitkamp


http://standingrock.org/

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