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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue May 30, 2017, 09:15 AM May 2017

Mueller Gets Off to Quick Start


May 29, 2017By Taegan Goddard

Wall Street Journal: “Robert Mueller quickly got to work as special counsel overseeing the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election: building a team, designing a budget and forcing the Federal Bureau of Investigation to withhold from Congress documents he may be interested in—all in his first full week on the job.”

“Mr. Mueller’s team has been assigned office space in a nondescript building in downtown Washington that is home to the Justice Department’s civil rights and environment and natural resources divisions. Mr. Mueller and his colleagues have been spotted using their badges to enter the office, conspicuous for their formal attire amid the other Department employees, who adhere to a more casual dress code.”

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https://politicalwire.com/2017/05/29/mueller-gets-off-quick-start/
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Mueller Gets Off to Quick Start (Original Post) DonViejo May 2017 OP
I believe in Mueller. writes3000 May 2017 #1
The planet's future is basically in Mueller's hands. PearliePoo2 May 2017 #2
Many nations are depending on you, Mr. Mueller :-) Ezior May 2017 #3
Think of it this way: A George W. Bush appointee is the best chance we have right now. GBizzle May 2017 #4
Obama kept him on longer than the usual term limit IronLionZion May 2017 #15
Oh I'm well aware of all that, and agree with you 100%. It just sounds strange to say out loud. GBizzle May 2017 #16
It truly was and in a very reassuring way. nt arthritisR_US May 2017 #33
and what a sad commentary on the peril in which we find ourselves. niyad May 2017 #27
We have lots of good poeple, lots of stratagems, Hortensis May 2017 #36
Well said..n/t monmouth4 May 2017 #6
It feels that was doesn't it? ffr May 2017 #14
Then again DownriverDem May 2017 #17
Don't think trump can do that solara May 2017 #25
You might be incorrect PJMcK May 2017 #30
goosebumps BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #20
I'm alternating between goosebumps and literally choking back tears. nt. PearliePoo2 May 2017 #26
Yeah. BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #35
I want to.... Nictuku May 2017 #5
Devil's advocate here--he needs first look Maeve May 2017 #7
Or...another explanation? Are there Congress Critter Traitors he doesn't want in the loop? PearliePoo2 May 2017 #8
Given how they handled the Comey letter, I'll go with this one... Wounded Bear May 2017 #9
This would be the answer. Majority of twisted traitor ideologue Repuke BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #22
"withhold form Congress" is absolutely warranted to prevent politially fucking with Lil Missy May 2017 #12
Yep when the real legal bombs start going off, Volaris May 2017 #23
Sounds like you assume Plucketeer May 2017 #13
To maintain independence and limit outside influence IronLionZion May 2017 #18
Referring to the Comey memos which Chaffetz wanted to see and Mueller said no. Justice May 2017 #19
I think it means they're not allowed to leak anything FakeNoose May 2017 #28
I believe he's covering that base too. I recall his team looking into the "fake news" Russians ATL Ebony May 2017 #31
Yes but that wasn't illegal FakeNoose May 2017 #32
I guess they're investigating to see if any dots can be connected -- we don't really know. ATL Ebony May 2017 #34
If you do not have integrity, nothing else matters. L. Coyote May 2017 #10
Saving to watch later n/t BlancheSplanchnik May 2017 #21
That's a good find. He sounded sincere too. nt. druidity33 May 2017 #37
Sounds good but I sincerely hope we don't have another Fitzmas. Just saying... winstars May 2017 #11
Special protection! notKeith May 2017 #24
Kooky. L. Coyote May 2017 #38
Yeah Gothmog May 2017 #29

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
2. The planet's future is basically in Mueller's hands.
Tue May 30, 2017, 09:42 AM
May 2017

We are lucky to have him.
I believe he's a true Patriot and this will be his highest calling and his finest hour to serve his country.
A Nation is depending on you Mr. Mueller.

 

GBizzle

(209 posts)
4. Think of it this way: A George W. Bush appointee is the best chance we have right now.
Tue May 30, 2017, 09:51 AM
May 2017

If it were anyone other than Mueller, I would shudder at the thought.

IronLionZion

(45,430 posts)
15. Obama kept him on longer than the usual term limit
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:32 AM
May 2017

and got the Senate to approve the extension. Only Hoover served longer.

Mueller and Comey threatened to resign office during the Bush years to protest warrantless wiretapping. He's probably one of the best choices for this role.

 

GBizzle

(209 posts)
16. Oh I'm well aware of all that, and agree with you 100%. It just sounds strange to say out loud.
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:35 AM
May 2017

I trust Mueller completely, and I'm glad he's the one looking into this.

I also think his commencement speech about integrity the other day was telling.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
36. We have lots of good poeple, lots of stratagems,
Tue May 30, 2017, 03:18 PM
May 2017

and many plans B-Zs getting prepared for rolling out depending on how the situations develop.

But 2018 depends on us. Mueller only gets one vote, like the rest of us.

solara

(3,836 posts)
25. Don't think trump can do that
Tue May 30, 2017, 11:22 AM
May 2017

I believe Rosenstein set Mueller up to be invulnerable to trump and only Rosenstein can fire him and then for only something significantly unlawful.

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Nictuku

(3,605 posts)
5. I want to....
Tue May 30, 2017, 09:52 AM
May 2017

.... but this troubles me: "withhold from Congress documents he may be interested in"

Why withhold from Congress? Everything Mueller is working on will be in secret. Doesn't the public have a right to know?

The only other way will be via the leaks given to the press. One thing that helps ease my trouble is that if too much is kept secret, I think then we will be seeing more leaks to the press from the IC. Those people are true patriots in my opinion (the leakers).

Without an educated electorate, we are fucked.

Maeve

(42,281 posts)
7. Devil's advocate here--he needs first look
Tue May 30, 2017, 09:59 AM
May 2017

If there is going to be a real investigation (and possible prosecution) he need to see what the evidence is before the Rep Congresscritters get the chance to spin gold into straw. the public has a right to know--but in due course. Give him a chance to build the case before demanding to see it.

That said, I understand your concern; tRump wants the American public to be treated like mushrooms--kept in the dark and fed bullshit.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
8. Or...another explanation? Are there Congress Critter Traitors he doesn't want in the loop?
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:10 AM
May 2017

Rat-fucking bastards like Nunes, Grassley, Gowdy and Chaffetz immediately come to mind.



Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
9. Given how they handled the Comey letter, I'll go with this one...
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:15 AM
May 2017

Mueller is supposed to be non-political. His history says he takes that seriously.

I'll certainly allow it. Besides, just because Mueller is on the job doesn't mean we won't get more leaks. With the current crew in the government, leaking is almost a sporting event.

The intel Committees are at maybe 50% on my trust meter. Rank and file Repubs deserve none IMNSHO.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
22. This would be the answer. Majority of twisted traitor ideologue Repuke
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:57 AM
May 2017

In House and Senate. It's likely there are congress hagfishes who aided and abetted.

Simplest explanation.

Lil Missy

(17,865 posts)
12. "withhold form Congress" is absolutely warranted to prevent politially fucking with
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:22 AM
May 2017

the investigation. Keeps the info from the orange jackass, and cronies, until the case is fully developed.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
23. Yep when the real legal bombs start going off,
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:59 AM
May 2017

I don't want Ryan and McConnell and the other colluders given any time to run and hide. I want the kill poison in the air when the lights come on, so the cockroaches have to run through it on their way to cover.

Fuck these traitors.

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
13. Sounds like you assume
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:23 AM
May 2017

that said congresscritters would handle information in a fair and equitable manner. And there are probably some that would cling to those ideals. But TOO MANY would quickly transform disconnected bits into a bludgeon of lies. And if you think the public can't be fooled by fake news, consider the cabal that's the focus of these investigations!

IronLionZion

(45,430 posts)
18. To maintain independence and limit outside influence
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:38 AM
May 2017

you don't want Republicans to influence the investigation.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
28. I think it means they're not allowed to leak anything
Tue May 30, 2017, 11:34 AM
May 2017

Potentially whatever Mueller finds in his investigation would become evidence if they ever have a trial. So that's why it will be kept secret, until the trial. If there is no trial or if the investigation gets dropped because somebody resigns, then the evidence can be published, after a certain time period.

The Watergate evidence against Nixon was revealed even though he was never impeached.

Here's my question: I know Mueller can prove that the Russians meddled in our election. I know he can prove that Trump has been doing business with Putin and Russian mobsters for a long time. But can Mueller prove that Trump (and his campaign managers) threw the election by coordinating their efforts with the Russians? Is he even going there and looking for that activity? I sure hope so. Trump will find a way to wiggle out of everything else.


ATL Ebony

(1,097 posts)
31. I believe he's covering that base too. I recall his team looking into the "fake news" Russians
Tue May 30, 2017, 02:05 PM
May 2017

were posting against HRC and whether 45's campaign had sanctioned or coordinated those efforts.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
32. Yes but that wasn't illegal
Tue May 30, 2017, 02:11 PM
May 2017

... and it probably can't be pinned on Trump and his campaign.

They have to prove collusion or espionage, otherwise he'll wiggle out of it. I'm sure Trump has good lawyers and I'm sure they're working overtime to save his butt.

If Kushner talks (I don't think he will) then they have no defense. I'm guessing that Kushner will keep quiet, go to jail and take one for "the team."

notKeith

(138 posts)
24. Special protection!
Tue May 30, 2017, 11:03 AM
May 2017

There probably needs to be 24-hr surveillance around this 'nondescript building' and each individual involved in this investigation. For instance, this.

I honestly believe anyone investigating Trump is in grave danger.

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