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RexCasual

(171 posts)
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:14 PM May 2017

Tiger Wood DUI sidebar: I couldn't pass these field tests sober!

According to the linked story, Woods failed all field sobriety tests. It goes on to say that when asked, he was unable to recite the alphabet backwards, nor was he able to recite the national anthem backwards.

Seriously?!?

This is setting people up to fail, period. The vast majority of the population couldn't pass these tests sober, let alone under duress. I know the police are here to "protect and serve", but the tactics they employ frequently irk me. These two particular "field sobriety tests" are ridiculous and unfair. Shit, I'll bet 90% of our police officers couldn't pass these tests!



G-r-r-r-r-r-r

Sigh.

Back to Trump shit. . .

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/police-report-shows-tiger-woods-asleep-vehicle-failing-pass-field-sobriety-tests-143352632.html
















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Tiger Wood DUI sidebar: I couldn't pass these field tests sober! (Original Post) RexCasual May 2017 OP
Jeeez, I might make it through alphabet test. But, I'd flunk the National Anthem test every time. Hoyt May 2017 #1
I don't think most people could do the national anthem the normal way Renew Deal May 2017 #4
The OP misread the story. Codeine May 2017 #7
In the video they said he was asked. boston bean May 2017 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author B2G May 2017 #20
I don't know why they couldn't drive him home or call a cab Renew Deal May 2017 #2
Well, They Bagged RobinA May 2017 #15
I would probably fail the national anthem test sober Proud liberal 80 May 2017 #3
He wasn't asked to recite the national anthem backwards. Codeine May 2017 #5
You're right RexCasual May 2017 #11
Thanks for the clarification. I was getting ready to turn myself into the local police department Hoyt May 2017 #12
if i'm understanding correctly, reciting the national anthem backwards was *not* one of the tests: unblock May 2017 #6
Exactly. nt Codeine May 2017 #8
I was on a DUI trial jury once and the jurers agreed that HeartachesNhangovers May 2017 #9
That's not the point of field tests. Codeine May 2017 #13
Let's make sure we have the story straight... fantase56 May 2017 #10
Sorry all. . . RexCasual May 2017 #14
I'm Stone Sober RobinA May 2017 #16
But attempting to do so wouldn't Codeine May 2017 #17
This is true zipplewrath May 2017 #18
I think you are wrong on this. They aren't having one walk heel to toe while reciting the alphabet b boston bean May 2017 #21
It wouldn't?? At 3am, leaving the environment of my cosy car and tunes to go out into retread May 2017 #22
Awww, diddums Codeine May 2017 #23
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. Jeeez, I might make it through alphabet test. But, I'd flunk the National Anthem test every time.
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:19 PM
May 2017

And I'd need a good bit of time on the backwards alphabet test.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
4. I don't think most people could do the national anthem the normal way
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:23 PM
May 2017

I'd like to see the sober cop that requested it try

Response to Codeine (Reply #7)

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
2. I don't know why they couldn't drive him home or call a cab
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:23 PM
May 2017

He knew he wasn't feeling well and pulled over. Did they really accomplish something with this? Hopefully the jury or judge has some wisdom on this. I'd ask for a jury trial.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
5. He wasn't asked to recite the national anthem backwards.
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:25 PM
May 2017

He was asked to recite the alphabet backwards and when asked if he understood what they wanted he said "Yes, recite the national anthem backwards."

The police don't care if you can actually do the alphabet backwards in a test, they're watching your reactions and ability to focus on the task.

RexCasual

(171 posts)
11. You're right
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:31 PM
May 2017

I stand corrected

And yes, the purpose is to see how they respond in general.

Still. . .

G-r-r-r-r-r

For my next tangent, I'll read the source material more carefully

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
12. Thanks for the clarification. I was getting ready to turn myself into the local police department
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:31 PM
May 2017

as likely unfit to drive.

unblock

(52,126 posts)
6. if i'm understanding correctly, reciting the national anthem backwards was *not* one of the tests:
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:26 PM
May 2017

"He failed all of the field tests, including reciting the alphabet backwards. On that particular test, Woods said he understood what was being asked of him before saying, “Yes, recite the entire national anthem backwards.” Ultimately, after several attempts, he completed the task."


based on "on that particular test", i take this to mean the actual test was still reciting the *alphabet* backwards, but when they asked if he understood that they were asking him to recite the *alphabet* backwards, tiger said "yes, recite the *entire national anthem* backwards".

presumably the officers then said "no, we asked you to recite the *alphabet* backwards.







9. I was on a DUI trial jury once and the jurers agreed that
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:29 PM
May 2017

we wouldn't have been able to pass the tests sober: "passing" means you execute every test that the officer gives you perfectly. We also agreed that if we were ever in that situation we'd decline any field tests and have our blood tested.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
13. That's not the point of field tests.
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:33 PM
May 2017

Officers are watching to see you if you can focus on a mental task while still maintaining physical equilibrium. "Divided attention" tasks often cause impaired individuals to sway, experience knee buckle, or otherwise fail to stay balanced when not focusing on balance.

fantase56

(442 posts)
10. Let's make sure we have the story straight...
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:31 PM
May 2017

It doesn't appear that Woods was asked to recite the National Anthem backward, per the story.....

"In co-operation with the officers on the scene, Woods stepped out of the vehicle to perform field sobriety tests. He failed all of the field tests, including reciting the alphabet backwards. On that particular test, Woods said he understood what was being asked of him before saying, “Yes, recite the entire national anthem backwards.” Ultimately, after several attempts, he completed the task."

RexCasual

(171 posts)
14. Sorry all. . .
Tue May 30, 2017, 12:37 PM
May 2017

Didn't mean to spread "fake news"; as many have noted, I misread and jumped the gun on this thread. My humble apologies

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
17. But attempting to do so wouldn't
Tue May 30, 2017, 01:17 PM
May 2017

cause you to sway, stumble, buckle at the knees, or experience other equilibrium issues. That's really the point of a divided attention task. Nobody really cares if you get the reverse alphabet right; hell, the officer probably wouldn't even realize if you made a mistake. He's watching your physical state during the test.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
18. This is true
Tue May 30, 2017, 01:43 PM
May 2017

One of the six times I've "walked the line" (you own a 2 seat red sports car on a weekend and see how many times you get pulled over). "Passed" them all, but I always hated the alphabet one because you had to do it "rhythmically". On about the 4th time, I said "aw, crap, not that one". He asked why and I explained I could do it backwards, but I couldn't do it "rhythmically". So he asked if I had a college degree and I said yes I did, in engineering. So asked if I could count backwards from 100. I said in binary or logrithmically. He said "just count backwards!", so I did. Didn't get past 97. All he wanted to hear and see was me talk and stand at the same time (while he shown a darn flashlight in my eyes). If you're "passing" it doesn't really take long to see.

boston bean

(36,219 posts)
21. I think you are wrong on this. They aren't having one walk heel to toe while reciting the alphabet b
Tue May 30, 2017, 02:01 PM
May 2017

Each test measures different things. One physical incapacity the other mental incapacity.

retread

(3,761 posts)
22. It wouldn't?? At 3am, leaving the environment of my cosy car and tunes to go out into
Tue May 30, 2017, 02:05 PM
May 2017

the dark night amid flashing blue lights that are designed to disorient, to obey the barked orders of a uniformed, armed, paramilitary would disrupt my equilibrium as it is designed to do.

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