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La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
Tue May 30, 2017, 07:38 PM May 2017

Corey Booker, Kamala Harris, and Kirsten Gillibrand are clearly the future leaders of this party

I don't mean ONLY, i just mean it's very clear that they are.

Two weeks ago there was a twitter war against Gillibrand, this week it's Corey, i'm sure shortly it will be Kamala.

We should remain very vigilant against these assaults on the future leaders of our party. The stronger their star shines, the more the fake news and propaganda attacks against them will be.

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Corey Booker, Kamala Harris, and Kirsten Gillibrand are clearly the future leaders of this party (Original Post) La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 OP
I could agree with these names as leaders. Thinkingabout May 2017 #1
Kirsten and Kamala for 2020 ... MyNameIsKhan May 2017 #2
harris/gillibrand 2020 is a ticket I would literally cry about La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #3
Yes I being Californian would not mind ... any combination is good, they both are solid MyNameIsKhan May 2017 #5
me either La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #9
+1, and some of these tweets are total lies, misrepresentation or unfair bashing were only half of.. uponit7771 May 2017 #4
I'm shocked at all the "liberals" with their knives out for Dems. It's like they're brain washed. bettyellen May 2017 #6
"It's like they're brainwashed." yardwork May 2017 #26
Yep shenmue May 2017 #29
Do not forget the Castro Brothers....n/t chillfactor May 2017 #7
i don't but they are much lower key. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #8
Hope you have subscribed to Kamala's facebook, so great see her with her mother... MyNameIsKhan May 2017 #10
I hate it when people say "the Castro brothers". They're each separate human beings. Bucky May 2017 #52
Lieu, Swallwell and Schiff are all top notch too. Amaryllis May 2017 #11
Ben Ray Lujan, a Representative from New Mexico, also has a bright future. StevieM May 2017 #58
Love Ted Lieu as well NewJeffCT May 2017 #69
+1 emulatorloo May 2017 #81
Yes, the Intercept (iirc) has already tried to make a run at Kamala Harris Starry Messenger May 2017 #12
I like Kirsten and Kamala but don't know how that would play in the Red and Rust states... n/m bagelsforbreakfast May 2017 #13
probably the same way obama played La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #14
Kirsten had success in outstate New York (much of which is almost Red State/Rust Belt territory) caraher May 2017 #20
The thing I like about Gillibrand is what some progressives will hate about her justiceischeap May 2017 #44
If Gillibrand supports New York's SAFE Act, she can forget about the White House derby378 May 2017 #73
Astute observation jehop61 May 2017 #15
We have a lot of fresh faces to look at. sheshe2 May 2017 #16
Kirsten Gillibrand is future Presidential material and I look forward to the day. democratisphere May 2017 #17
As are the other two. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #18
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #37
No he is not. You should be better informed before spreading garbage. La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #39
Yes. Unfortunately he is! democratisphere May 2017 #45
again, you are wrong La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #101
Various second tier news outlets have been running hit pieces on him for the past year Bucky May 2017 #56
Don't know much about the other two but, tiredtoo May 2017 #19
Lol ok La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #22
What nonsense. yardwork May 2017 #25
No one can ever point to votes or overal records. They just parrot some BS.... bettyellen May 2017 #27
Just one example here, I can find others if needed. tiredtoo May 2017 #43
After this, therefor because of this... LanternWaste May 2017 #47
What do you know about that similar law he voted for about a week later? bettyellen May 2017 #65
Have found no link to your question. tiredtoo May 2017 #70
Funny it comes up at the top when I google it! bettyellen May 2017 #72
ok Politics as usual. tiredtoo May 2017 #74
And when he runs for Senate again JustAnotherGen May 2017 #87
were i in his state, i too would vote for him over any republican or third party candidate tiredtoo May 2017 #99
Need others because he did support a better bill to lower pharma prices just a week later.... bettyellen May 2017 #68
Where is this data found? eom tiredtoo May 2017 #71
You dismissed the better bill with larger support because "politics as usual" bettyellen May 2017 #75
Carry on bettyellen tiredtoo May 2017 #76
Your concern is noted...your smears of Dems disproven. bettyellen May 2017 #77
Sadly, this is just a little preview of GDP 2020 emulatorloo May 2017 #82
Exactly.... LovingA2andMI May 2017 #30
I follow Kamala Harris on twitter! yuiyoshida May 2017 #21
Not surprising - those three are everything they hate and are threatening to them: George II May 2017 #23
I agree with you that the attacks on these leaders are no coincidence. yardwork May 2017 #24
That makes sense FM123 May 2017 #32
It's like they sniff out young testosterone to see who they can easily outrage... bettyellen May 2017 #35
Corey Booker??? LovingA2andMI May 2017 #28
He's rated like fifth most progressive senator, so..... bettyellen May 2017 #31
okay, regardless of what you think about Booker, please reconsider using that ranking to describe JCanete May 2017 #88
Because the ranking is based on a multitude of issues instead of one? bettyellen May 2017 #91
it isn't based upon rating the issues themselves as progressive or conservative, which itself would JCanete May 2017 #92
I'm smelling sour grapes here, but whatever. bettyellen May 2017 #93
what? Care to address what I said? nt JCanete May 2017 #94
Your being absolutist about getting any republican votes- also absolutist about bettyellen May 2017 #95
What the fuck betty. Is this an actual litmus test of whether you are progressive, or is it JCanete May 2017 #96
It's obvious you have different criteria, so this is a waste of time. bettyellen May 2017 #97
Based on which ranking because there are quite a few he doesn't show up on Quixote1818 Jun 2017 #105
You actually linked to The Free Beacon here? Why would you want to validate them here? bettyellen Jun 2017 #106
Lol ok La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #40
Everybody gave Governor Paterson hell for appointing Kristen Gillibrand instead of hrmjustin May 2017 #33
Schumer picked her La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #34
In the end yes. hrmjustin May 2017 #36
Don't you think Patterson deserves ultimate credit for her selection? StevieM May 2017 #60
Yes, but as far as I heard during the time La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #64
I'm sorry, I didn't intend it in a hostile manner, and I honestly wasn't feeling hostile at the time StevieM May 2017 #66
No worries, I was just confused. Glad you were not feeling hostile La Lioness Priyanka May 2017 #98
Excellent point. I remember how critical people were of his decision. StevieM May 2017 #59
I like all three of them. Warren DeMontague May 2017 #38
It is quite clear what is happening mcar May 2017 #41
I love Kirsten. Not so sure about Corey. Atman May 2017 #42
Calling for a full investigation of Kushner is not "supporting" Kushner. emulatorloo May 2017 #78
The good news is that only one of them has decided to defend Kushner. n/t Orsino May 2017 #46
none of them defended Kushner, none. geek tragedy May 2017 #50
He told Dana Bash that Kushner should retain his clearance... Orsino May 2017 #53
he said there should be an investigation. geek tragedy May 2017 #67
Honestly, I was surprised Corey took this position. What's to investigate?!! He was not honest Nevermypresident May 2017 #85
And why not pull the clearance now? Orsino Jun 2017 #100
Dig a little deeper than the half-truth hatchet jobs that get posted on DU emulatorloo May 2017 #79
If they're not openly advocating trump's impeachment right now, they aren't leading. (nt) Paladin May 2017 #48
The deceptive smear against Booker was transparent and disgusting. nt. NCTraveler May 2017 #49
The smear wasn't transparent enough! A lot of TheDebbieDee May 2017 #55
But Hillary was extremely popular as Secretary of State. StevieM May 2017 #61
But which one will be THE leader? Only one way to solve this delimma... Bucky May 2017 #51
Our future is in good hands beachbum bob May 2017 #54
The more that the loony-fringe attacks Booker... the more convinced I am that he's our future! NurseJackie May 2017 #57
Sometimes an older person can also be a future leader. I like two people in particular. StevieM May 2017 #62
Future leaders. lapfog_1 May 2017 #63
Very true. emulatorloo May 2017 #80
Love Gillibrand and Harris. Is it true that Jared and Ivanka donated to Corey's Nevermypresident May 2017 #83
In a former life Jared was a Democrat who donated money to help Democrats emulatorloo May 2017 #84
Got it. Thank you! Nevermypresident May 2017 #90
You are correct LLP JustAnotherGen May 2017 #86
And just like that, the usual suspects show up to smear Booker w/ that Kushner nonsense... SaschaHM May 2017 #89
If so, the Democratic Party is finished DemocraticWing Jun 2017 #102
lol yes. By the way how are all the Bernie supported Democrats fairing these days? La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #103
endorsed 100% JHan Jun 2017 #104
sorry bout opening up this thread again but tiredtoo Jun 2017 #107

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
4. +1, and some of these tweets are total lies, misrepresentation or unfair bashing were only half of..
Tue May 30, 2017, 07:47 PM
May 2017

... what the person says is presented in an OP title and then K&R'd by a lot of LPCs.

There should be a base of what dems want, I'm not going to get everything I want on equal pay, voter suppression and civil rights and economic progress but there should be a base of what we stand for and if the person stand on that base then bashing them for one or two stupid's they'll do in their life shouldn't disqualify them.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
8. i don't but they are much lower key.
Tue May 30, 2017, 07:50 PM
May 2017

I also know they are way more leaders, those three really shine though

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
10. Hope you have subscribed to Kamala's facebook, so great see her with her mother...
Tue May 30, 2017, 07:52 PM
May 2017

An immigrant from south India as a student and move the world in terms of traditions...

Bucky

(53,928 posts)
52. I hate it when people say "the Castro brothers". They're each separate human beings.
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:23 AM
May 2017

There's never going to a line on an electoral ballot called "the Castro brothers". It'll be one or the other. Julian or the ugly one. They're not interchangeable... sheesh

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
58. Ben Ray Lujan, a Representative from New Mexico, also has a bright future.
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:39 AM
May 2017

I could see him becoming Speaker of the House down the line.

I think that maybe Steny Hoyer will retire in 2020. Pelosi will hopefully become Speaker in 2018 or 2020. Clyburn will become majority leader, if only for two years.

Lujan, the current chair of the DCCC, could be majority whip in 2020, majority leader in 2022 and Speaker in 2024.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
69. Love Ted Lieu as well
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:09 PM
May 2017

but, he was born in Taiwan, so is not eligible to be president or VP. Would make a great Atty General

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
12. Yes, the Intercept (iirc) has already tried to make a run at Kamala Harris
Tue May 30, 2017, 07:56 PM
May 2017

I won't link to their tripe, but it was the same old formula. Dig up one example that looks suspicious without any context and leave out all the other myriad ways candidate x has supported this issue.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
14. probably the same way obama played
Tue May 30, 2017, 08:05 PM
May 2017

as long as we don't have comey + russian interference again + our base is actually allowed to vote

caraher

(6,278 posts)
20. Kirsten had success in outstate New York (much of which is almost Red State/Rust Belt territory)
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:01 PM
May 2017
She won election and re-election to Congress branded as a moderate-to-conservative Democrat

I think she has a good ear for issues that play well across the political spectrum.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
44. The thing I like about Gillibrand is what some progressives will hate about her
Wed May 31, 2017, 09:10 AM
May 2017

She has a very solid record of supporting her constituents--which means she has some blue dog tendencies. However, I'm not as opposed to blue dogs as some on the left because there are actually blue dog Dems under our tent and they deserve representation too.

She, IMO, has a very solid voting record on important progressive issues but also supports her more moderate constituents too and I don't think that's pandering from her, I think she's actually doing the job she was hired to do.

derby378

(30,252 posts)
73. If Gillibrand supports New York's SAFE Act, she can forget about the White House
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:32 PM
May 2017

I remember a lot of the flak around her appointment was over her approval rating from the NRA. Carolyn McCarthy threatened to primary her until Chuck Schumer ran interference and brought McCarthy and the Brady Campaign into Gillibrand's office. Since then, her votes on gun legislation have changed dramatically, partially over the threat of a bruising primary.

She could have been one of the moderating voices on gun legislation in the Democratic Party, but Gillibrand developed cold feet.

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Bucky

(53,928 posts)
56. Various second tier news outlets have been running hit pieces on him for the past year
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:31 AM
May 2017

He's handsome, single, vegetarian, young, heroic, well financed, affable, and gifted with a moderate temperament (despite having the 5th most progressive voting record in the Senate). He's the one to beat for anyone angling for the 2020 slot.

So it's not surprising people are gunning for him. It's a little surprising it takes so little rumor-spreading to poison his name in some quarters of the party.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
65. What do you know about that similar law he voted for about a week later?
Wed May 31, 2017, 12:22 PM
May 2017

Do tell. This is interesting.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
74. ok Politics as usual.
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:36 PM
May 2017

Voted for an amendment that failed to pass. CYA ?
Booker is an establishment politician. The same establishment that has led us (Democrats) down a path of self destruction. We are now reduced to protesting at town halls or on the streets. These actions may make for good press but they achieve nothing. The politicians continue voting in favor of the money that bought them.
And Democratic control of local, state and federal governments continues to fade into darkness.
Carry on my friends, carry on!

JustAnotherGen

(31,769 posts)
87. And when he runs for Senate again
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:25 PM
May 2017

We will vote him right back into office - for all the reasons you pointed out. I'm a donor to Booker - I bought him.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
99. were i in his state, i too would vote for him over any republican or third party candidate
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:30 PM
May 2017

But i would prefer a candidate that better understands the wants and needs of working men and women in this country. The establishment Democratic party has drifted away from these people in their quest for money from the moneyed few.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
68. Need others because he did support a better bill to lower pharma prices just a week later....
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:06 PM
May 2017

So keep going.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
75. You dismissed the better bill with larger support because "politics as usual"
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:40 PM
May 2017

Even though it destroys your RW narrative of Booker taking bribes. You're being fed a load of horse shit.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
76. Carry on bettyellen
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:45 PM
May 2017

And watch as the ship continues sinking. I do not recall saying Booker took bribes other than to say politicians vote based on what their owners want. Not Right wing at all, Republicans are even more openly owned.
Corporate America got their greedy hooks into both parties over the last 30/40 years.
If you are willing to accept the status quo, by all means carry on , carry on.

George II

(67,782 posts)
23. Not surprising - those three are everything they hate and are threatening to them:
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:08 PM
May 2017

A woman
A black man
A black woman

And all three are among the top rated Progressive Senators.

yardwork

(61,527 posts)
24. I agree with you that the attacks on these leaders are no coincidence.
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:17 PM
May 2017

The attacks are in a familiar format and in a familiar script. The purpose is clearly to divide Democratic voters so that Republicans stay in power.

Resist.

FM123

(10,052 posts)
32. That makes sense
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:32 PM
May 2017

I remember this is exactly how the game was played (and we were played) during the election

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
35. It's like they sniff out young testosterone to see who they can easily outrage...
Tue May 30, 2017, 11:00 PM
May 2017

It's eerily familiar.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
88. okay, regardless of what you think about Booker, please reconsider using that ranking to describe
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:29 PM
May 2017

him or other politicians. It is designed to define those who vote party line as progressive. That isn't an accurate assessment, even if, for the most part, it follows that trend. It concerns me that its being used as such.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
92. it isn't based upon rating the issues themselves as progressive or conservative, which itself would
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:39 PM
May 2017

be subjective but at least putting some effort in to getting to the conclusion that we are supposedly arriving at.

What is being done instead is to rank a vote as progressive IF that vote was in line with the party, and out of line with the opposing party. That means that bills that reach across the aisle and court 5, 10 or 15 republicans, when voted in favor of, are registered as progressive votes, which is utter nonsense. If you can court any Republicans, you've come to the middle or even taken a step or two over the line, in this climate.

On the other hand, if you refuse to vote with those 40 democrats and 10 conservatives, possibly because you think a huge tax cut is not in our best interest, surprisingly, your vote will register as non-progressive.

Its great data, but framing it the way this site frames it, is borderline dishonest.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
95. Your being absolutist about getting any republican votes- also absolutist about
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:53 PM
May 2017

Donors IIRC, to me both of those things are non-starters- not grounded in reality.

 

JCanete

(5,272 posts)
96. What the fuck betty. Is this an actual litmus test of whether you are progressive, or is it
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:58 PM
May 2017

a litmus test of whether or not you vote party line? Just be honest about what the criteria actually is. You can make so many good arguments about why Booker and others are great statesemen for reaching across the aisle, but make those then. Don't use a trumped up measure to tell people he or any others are in the top 5 progressives when it comes to voting record. That is not actually what this data shows. If you care to refute that statement, I'm all ears, but you apparently have no interest in doing so.

Quixote1818

(28,918 posts)
105. Based on which ranking because there are quite a few he doesn't show up on
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:37 PM
Jun 2017
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/new-report-ranks-most-liberal-most-conservative-members-of-congress

http://freebeacon.com/politics/meet-the-ten-most-liberal-senators/

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/83907-ranking-the-most-liberal-and-conservative-lawmakers

He comes in 27th here:

#74 0.24 Sen. Cory Booker [D-NJ]
#75 0.23 Sen. Harry Reid [D-NV, 1987-2016]
#76 0.22 Sen. Benjamin Cardin [D-MD]
#77 0.21 Sen. Ron Wyden [D-OR]
#78 0.20 Sen. Patrick Leahy [D-VT]
#79 0.20 Sen. Debbie Stabenow [D-MI]
#80 0.19 Sen. Brian Schatz [D-HI]
#81 0.18 Sen. Robert “Bob” Menéndez [D-NJ]
#82 0.17 Sen. Christopher Murphy [D-CT]
#83 0.16 Sen. Charles “Chuck” Schumer [D-NY]
#84 0.15 Sen. Patty Murray [D-WA]
#85 0.15 Sen. Barbara Mikulski [D-MD, 1987-2016]
#86 0.14 Sen. Tammy Baldwin [D-WI]
#87 0.14 Sen. Dianne Feinstein [D-CA]
#88 0.13 Sen. Mazie Hirono [D-HI]
#89 0.12 Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse [D-RI]
#90 0.12 Sen. Sherrod Brown [D-OH]
#91 0.11 Sen. John “Jack” Reed [D-RI]
#92 0.11 Sen. Richard Blumenthal [D-CT]
#93 0.11 Sen. Barbara Boxer [D-CA, 1993-2016]
#94 0.08 Sen. Jeff Merkley [D-OR]
#95 0.07 Sen. Richard Durbin [D-IL]
#96 0.06 Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand [D-NY]
#97 0.05 Sen. Alan “Al” Franken [D-MN]
#98 0.04 Sen. Edward “Ed” Markey [D-MA]
#99 0.04 Sen. Bernard “Bernie” Sanders [I-VT]
#100 0.00 Sen. Elizabeth Warren [D-MA]

https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2016/senate/ideology
 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
106. You actually linked to The Free Beacon here? Why would you want to validate them here?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 03:18 PM
Jun 2017

Because fuck the partisan hacks at Free Beacon very much. I'm not wasting my time with that shit.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
33. Everybody gave Governor Paterson hell for appointing Kristen Gillibrand instead of
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:50 PM
May 2017

Caroline Kennedy but he was right.

Kristen Gillibrand is a true gem for this state and country.

Harris is hitting the ground running.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
60. Don't you think Patterson deserves ultimate credit for her selection?
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:58 AM
May 2017

At the end of the day, he was the one who made the appointment. The choice was entirely his and nobody could force him to pick her if he didn't want to.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
64. Yes, but as far as I heard during the time
Wed May 31, 2017, 12:04 PM
May 2017

Schumer asked for her and Paterson selected her.


Not sure why you sound hostile but I really liked Paterson

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
66. I'm sorry, I didn't intend it in a hostile manner, and I honestly wasn't feeling hostile at the time
Wed May 31, 2017, 12:35 PM
May 2017

I posted what I wrote.

I guess when you are on the internet it can be hard to tell exactly what a person is thinking or how they are trying to come across, since you cannot hear the person speaking or pick up a tone in their voice.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
59. Excellent point. I remember how critical people were of his decision.
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:56 AM
May 2017

I thought at the time that it made no sense. She was a member of the U.S. House, not some random person who he liked. And she was from upstate, which gave the Democrats some inroads there. It would not have been optimal to have two Democrats from the City representing us in the Senate. Upstate has to be included too, especially since all the other statewide elected Dems were from the City.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
42. I love Kirsten. Not so sure about Corey.
Wed May 31, 2017, 08:52 AM
May 2017

I did a lot of campaign work for Kirsten, and I even designed many of her frank mail pieces to her constituents. But Corey...I don't know. He's personable, he's likable, but he sure seems to cozy up to the "wrong" side of issues a bit too often for my taste. I mean...supporting Jared? What's up with that?

emulatorloo

(44,046 posts)
78. Calling for a full investigation of Kushner is not "supporting" Kushner.
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:49 PM
May 2017

These click-bait half-truth hatchet job "articles" some folk post here are prett transparent once one digs a little deeper.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
50. none of them defended Kushner, none.
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:16 AM
May 2017

Some Jill Stein pundits posted misleading headlines claiming one did.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
53. He told Dana Bash that Kushner should retain his clearance...
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:28 AM
May 2017

...until after some arbitrary amount of time or threshold of proof has passed.

That is a defense. Not a defense of Kushner's activities, exactly, but definitely a defense of Kushner retaining a security clearance.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
67. he said there should be an investigation.
Wed May 31, 2017, 01:17 PM
May 2017

calling for someone to be investigated for misdeeds is not a defense of that person

Nevermypresident

(781 posts)
85. Honestly, I was surprised Corey took this position. What's to investigate?!! He was not honest
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:08 PM
May 2017

on his form...Any lower level govnt. employee would have clearance revoked immediately, period.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
100. And why not pull the clearance now?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 12:11 PM
Jun 2017

If he's cleared, reinstate it. Easy.

Booker prefers risk on behalf of a donor.

emulatorloo

(44,046 posts)
79. Dig a little deeper than the half-truth hatchet jobs that get posted on DU
Wed May 31, 2017, 02:53 PM
May 2017

Insisting on a full investigation of Kushner is not 'defending' Kusher.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
55. The smear wasn't transparent enough! A lot of
Wed May 31, 2017, 10:30 AM
May 2017

Left-leaners fell for it!

Once the right determines that Harris or Gillibrand or whomever has Democratic STAR-POWER, that person is pre-emptively smeared!

They smeared Sec Clinton so badly for 25 years before she ran for President that even many on the left thought she was a criminal...

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
61. But Hillary was extremely popular as Secretary of State.
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:00 AM
May 2017

I think the biggest problem she faced was new smears, and a brand new phony scandal about her emails. It was uniquely successful, primarily because James Comey chose to involve the FBI, thereby giving the story the appearance of legitimacy.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
62. Sometimes an older person can also be a future leader. I like two people in particular.
Wed May 31, 2017, 11:02 AM
May 2017

I live Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington, who will be 69 in 2020. And I like Elizabeth Warren, who will be 71.

The people you listed are all good too.

emulatorloo

(44,046 posts)
84. In a former life Jared was a Democrat who donated money to help Democrats
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:06 PM
May 2017

Trump used to donate to Democrats as well. Trump used to say lots of liberal things, He even publically supported single payer.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
103. lol yes. By the way how are all the Bernie supported Democrats fairing these days?
Thu Jun 1, 2017, 02:18 PM
Jun 2017

huge wins for Mello, Feingold, Teachout, Quist!! so impressive. can hardly take so much winning.

tiredtoo

(2,949 posts)
107. sorry bout opening up this thread again but
Wed Jun 7, 2017, 09:20 PM
Jun 2017

Here is a link to more data affirming my previous comment about Booker being a corporate Dem.
It basically exposes some of Booker's corporate funding and his actions based on the funding.

http://www.bluedotdaily.com/cory-booker-defends-jared-kushner-then-a-money-trail-shows-up/

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