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Kathy Griffin Trump Head for those who haven't seen it (Original Post) ProudLib72 May 2017 OP
Post removed Post removed May 2017 #1
Oh wow kimbutgar May 2017 #16
Ive seen them live OriginalGeek May 2017 #29
Another "Uh...wow." Doreen May 2017 #31
Oh my Egnever May 2017 #2
Why are folks acting like they have memory loss for the last 8yrs? HipChick May 2017 #3
exactly. if it's wrong when she did it, well, she apologized. did any of them ever apologize? unblock May 2017 #4
I wasn't a fan of those either. Texasgal May 2017 #10
Agree 100% Bucky May 2017 #18
I got the distinct impression MichMary May 2017 #19
What specifically lead you to that "distinct impression?" LanternWaste May 2017 #41
It was waaaay over the top MichMary May 2017 #46
That, the Obama effigies, was a proud AmeriKKKan tradition. guillaumeb May 2017 #26
Opposed it then... sarisataka May 2017 #44
Over the top and not my kind of humor.... Freethinker65 May 2017 #5
That Would Make A Great Halloween Trick Or TWEET Bucket... Grassy Knoll May 2017 #6
Not amused burnbaby May 2017 #7
Thank you. Texasgal May 2017 #8
To moi canetoad May 2017 #9
Very mixed feelings on this one. roamer65 May 2017 #11
Kathy Griffin Trump Head for those who haven't seen it. LenaBaby61 May 2017 #12
Wow. Extremely bad taste. Jake Stern May 2017 #13
I think it's stupid samplegirl May 2017 #14
Which is which? egduj May 2017 #15
Is that supposed to be "funny?" Archae May 2017 #17
sick . . . and not in a good way DrDan May 2017 #20
Public Career Suicide hexola May 2017 #21
Is that what the brouhaha is all about? Vinca May 2017 #22
It's just something for the right-wingers to whine about Rorey May 2017 #33
As jokes go, what's so funny about this? Mr. Ected May 2017 #23
Looks like they've both had better days. jmg257 May 2017 #24
weird! TUMERIC123 May 2017 #25
That is gross get the red out May 2017 #27
All I could say or think was "Uh...wow." Doreen May 2017 #28
Amateur hour compared to how savage Trump has depicted and wants the rest of us treated. nt. NCTraveler May 2017 #30
Idiotic. A badly calculated look-at-me ploy. RelativelyJones May 2017 #32
I don't know what she was going for, but it doesn't say anything to me. Demit May 2017 #34
OK, that's dumb Warpy May 2017 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Blue_Adept May 2017 #37
"There was blood coming out of his eyes, blood coming out of his whereever..." Rollo May 2017 #36
It's a great statement of what women have to do in order to survive the Trump years Blue_Adept May 2017 #38
Wow I am not sure what this is supposed to mean except for shock value mvd May 2017 #39
Moe once chopped off Larry's legs. LanternWaste May 2017 #40
I REALLY don't like what she's wearing. Sugar Smack May 2017 #42
I have been muttering about tricoteuses and tumbrels(& associated implements) for months. politicat May 2017 #43
Go Kathy go.. Keep on keeping on. LakeArenal May 2017 #45
The Ugly American Turbineguy May 2017 #47

Response to ProudLib72 (Original post)

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
29. Ive seen them live
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:14 PM
May 2017

they're a good band. I don't remember seeing that shirt at their show but it was a while back, maybe before all this trump mess started...

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
3. Why are folks acting like they have memory loss for the last 8yrs?
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:18 PM
May 2017

How many effigies of Obama did we see hung,burnt or lynched?

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
18. Agree 100%
Wed May 31, 2017, 06:42 AM
May 2017

The key difference is, Kathy Griffin apologized. Immediately. She did not double down or say she was sorry IF someone was offended. She said she was wrong period and made no excuses.

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
19. I got the distinct impression
Wed May 31, 2017, 07:53 AM
May 2017

that she wasn't sorry until someone tipped her off that the Secret Service frowns on that sort of thing. Self-serving apology.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. What specifically lead you to that "distinct impression?"
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:48 PM
May 2017

What specifically lead you to that "distinct impression?" Post hoc, ergo prompter hoc, or something less fallacious in nature?

MichMary

(1,714 posts)
46. It was waaaay over the top
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:40 PM
May 2017

and she said something about realizing -after- all the blowback just how unacceptable it was. It was pretty terrible, which she SHOULD have known before she did it.

Freethinker65

(10,001 posts)
5. Over the top and not my kind of humor....
Tue May 30, 2017, 10:28 PM
May 2017

But she is a professional comedian. I remember when Gilbert Gottfried (another comedian I could live without) got dropped from Aflac for the outcry over a too soon tsunami joke. Backlash happens. She is trying to cut her losses by apologizing and will get some more free air time from it.

She could have just claimed the head was the likeness of Alec Baldwin. Trump lovers would not have minded that.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
13. Wow. Extremely bad taste.
Tue May 30, 2017, 11:04 PM
May 2017

Seen some of her material and to be quite honest she wasn't funny to begin with so perhaps she was trying to go for "edgy" as a career boost.

Archae

(46,301 posts)
17. Is that supposed to be "funny?"
Wed May 31, 2017, 12:58 AM
May 2017

Even Andrew "Dice" Clay could at least make me smile, a little.

This is just plain stupid.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
22. Is that what the brouhaha is all about?
Wed May 31, 2017, 07:59 AM
May 2017

After 8 years of having Obama lynched, shot and many other despicable things, I can't see spending any time talking about this. Remember all the photos of the Trump boys and their dead wild game. That's much more offensive since the animals were living, breathing, beautiful beings pre-Trump.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
33. It's just something for the right-wingers to whine about
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:27 PM
May 2017

Griffin gave them the ammunition, which was stupid on her part. I remember many of us making jokes about Dubya, and in retaliation (and out of pure hatred) they went WAY overboard about President Obama and our last real First Lady. The jokes about Dubya were mild. The things they said and depicted about President Obama were extreme and disgusting. I'm just not feeling the right-wingers outrage about Griffin's thing. They just want a reason to clutch their damned pearls.

Yeah, I know we should go high when they go low, but the continual assault by the right on all things good and decent gets old.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
23. As jokes go, what's so funny about this?
Wed May 31, 2017, 07:59 AM
May 2017

This denotes hate. Yes, I despise him too, but not so much that I want to go all al Qaeda on him.

A funnier scene would have been Trump sans hairpiece in leg irons and prison orange behind bars in the orangutan section of the public zoo.

TUMERIC123

(4 posts)
25. weird!
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:10 PM
May 2017

She just isn't that funny - never has been as far as I'm concerned. She does the left more harm than good with this weird stuff. This only distracts from the real issues. It's a waste of time and makes her look like an idiot!

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
34. I don't know what she was going for, but it doesn't say anything to me.
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:28 PM
May 2017

I get that it was supposed to shock, and she prides herself for humor in poor taste, but I don't see her point. I wonder if she has gotten any positive feedback from anyone.

Warpy

(111,163 posts)
35. OK, that's dumb
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:29 PM
May 2017

especially with the amount of gore. It just triggers a lot of people who have seen too many videos of Islamic nutjobs beheading dead men. Her career will suffer for a while from this one.

Sorry, Kathy, some jokes are just too gross to get off the ground.

Response to Warpy (Reply #35)

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
36. "There was blood coming out of his eyes, blood coming out of his whereever..."
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:29 PM
May 2017

Seen as a very acid comment on Trump's attack on Megyn Kelly for asking him tough questions, it makes some sense. Still in bad taste, but consider the subject, which is the pinnacle (or nadir?) of Bad Taste.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
38. It's a great statement of what women have to do in order to survive the Trump years
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:34 PM
May 2017

Take the bastard down hard and bloody, because that's exactly what he and his policies will do to THEM.

mvd

(65,161 posts)
39. Wow I am not sure what this is supposed to mean except for shock value
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:36 PM
May 2017

Point could have been made in so many other ways if she wanted to point out the death and destruction due to Trump policies. Shock value isn't my sense of humor.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
40. Moe once chopped off Larry's legs.
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:47 PM
May 2017

Moe once chopped off one of Larry's legs when they were travelling to El Dorado. Curly thought it was funny. So did I. I think Chaucer would have as well. It was part and parcel of the early twentieth century slap-stick shtick.

Longinus, Brutus and others were portrayed to have not merely cut off Ceasar's head, but his fingers, toes and genitalia as well. It was part and parcel of the Classical Elizabethan Literature shtick.

Doom paintings of the middle ages were much more crass, grotesque and monstrous than anything Ms. Griffin has ever done. It was part and parcel of the Last Judgment in Christian eschatology shtick.

But then again, I don't pretend to posses a righteous and absolute moral authority, and project that judgement onto what is, by definition, mere Juvenalian satire. Seems to be part and parcel of a newly discovered "Concern shtick" by the very ones who yet cheer on Beavis & Butthead as socially relevant and full of humor... to better illustrate how enlightened their own humor really is.

Sugar Smack

(18,748 posts)
42. I REALLY don't like what she's wearing.
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:49 PM
May 2017

It looks very restrictive & it's not flattering to her natural shape. The tie-and-puffy-sleeves look bothers me; it's too reminiscent of 80's comedy movies. Although -> of that blue she's wearing, I'm a fan.

politicat

(9,808 posts)
43. I have been muttering about tricoteuses and tumbrels(& associated implements) for months.
Wed May 31, 2017, 03:54 PM
May 2017

To myself, mostly, and I don't have a following.

I spent the last eight years (in no particular order)
- watching multiple fraternities and high school students festoon campus trees with nooses
- living through a pack of feral man-baby LARPers threatening Federal agents with rifles because the feral man-baby LARPers wouldn't pay their goddam, below-market rent
- then those same feral man-baby LARPers occupy a Federal wildlife refuge and not be convicted
- seeing the legitimately elected President and his family abused daily, including being burned in effigy and hanged in effigy
- enduring another feral pack of man-baby LARPers cyber-stalking, real-world stalking, SWATting, and slandering women who had the temerity to talk about video games while most of the press considered it a minor tantrum amongst the geeks, except that "minor tantrum" was the genesis of the Alt-Reich.
- witnessing dozens of innocent people of color be murdered by cops, and thousands be abused short of death by the same, and millions have their economic lifeblood leeched out to support those self-same cops via abusive fines while their right to redress grievances and vote is stripped away
- defending our eroding reproductive rights while old white men grin and giggle
- and surviving hundreds of other aggressions, ranging from micro to egregious, perpetrated by the racist, sexist, homophobic, feral supporters of King Shit of Turd Mountain.

I don't find the image at all funny. I do find it powerful and cathartic. Doesn't mean I'm going to run to IKEA and pick up the JACOBIN kit. But goddammit... a lot of us have Fuck of a LOT to be furious about.

Tumbrels. Tricoteuses.

LakeArenal

(28,804 posts)
45. Go Kathy go.. Keep on keeping on.
Wed May 31, 2017, 04:00 PM
May 2017

Trump is way more shocking on a daily basis. Kathy is irreverent. Sometimes she gets it right, sometimes not so much.

I'm with her...

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