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normalized it by 2010, and has been very successful in all the states they targeted which just happen to be SWING STATES.
Every time a GOP mouthpiece claims low black turnout they do so for only ONE REASON - to deflect attention from Crosscheck and their legislative vote restriction tactics in swing states.
Don't spread GOP propaganda unless you're ACKNOWLEDGING awareness that it IS propaganda.
Does anyone really think we just don't get enough of it around here?
Editted to acknowledge the suppression tactics used prior to 2010.
malaise
(268,949 posts)Get thee to the greatest page
but dems need to do more than just talk about this.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)to not use a pre-Obama baseline when discussing voting demographics. Longer trendlines tell a different story.
Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)Of that city could have voted in anyone they wanted there was still only a 30% turnout and that is double what it is usually . Now double is good but even after everything that happened there there was still a 30% turnout ... that wasnt from suppression or purging
Lars39
(26,109 posts)Are you willing to go to jail and/or pay thousands in fines, possibly lose your job, to get to vote?
Demsrule86
(68,553 posts)of folks have been charged with felonies and Missouri has voter suppression as well...so you are wrong. And they hide when elections are even held. And people are so beat down...they have given up I think. I am in Ohio also.
blm
(113,044 posts)Have been for at least two decades.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)diva77
(7,640 posts)Ohioblue22
(1,430 posts)Regarding ticketing and warrants
diva77
(7,640 posts)I found a couple of articles that go into more detail if anyone is interested in finding out more:
The GOP's Stealth War Against Voters
Will an anti-voter-fraud program designed by one of Trump's advisers deny tens of thousands their right to vote in November?
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890
snip...Election officials in more than two dozen states have compiled lists of citizens whom they allege could be registered in more than one state thus potentially able to cast multiple ballots and eligible to be purged from the voter rolls.
The data is processed through a system called the Interstate Voter Registration Crosscheck Program, which is being promoted by a powerful Republican operative, and its lists of potential duplicate voters are kept confidential. But Rolling Stone obtained a portion of the list and the names of 1 million targeted voters. According to our analysis, the Crosscheck list disproportionately threatens solid Democratic constituencies: young, black, Hispanic and Asian-American voters with some of the biggest possible purges underway in Ohio and North Carolina, two crucial swing states with tight Senate races.
Like all weapons of vote suppression, Crosscheck is a response to the imaginary menace of mass voter fraud. In the mid-2000s, after the Florida-recount debacle, the Bush administration launched a five-year investigation into the allegedly rampant crime but found scant evidence of wrongdoing. Still, the GOP has perpetuated the myth in every national election since. Recently, North Carolina Board of Elections chief Kim Strach testified to her legislature that 35,750 voters are "registered in North Carolina and another state and voted in both in the 2012 general election." ...snip
snip...Yet despite hiring an ex-FBI agent to lead the hunt, the state has charged exactly zero double voters from the Crosscheck list. Nevertheless, tens of thousands face the loss of their ability to vote all for the sake of preventing a crime that rarely happens. So far, Crosscheck has tagged an astonishing 7.2 million suspects, yet we found no more than four perpetrators who have been charged with double voting or deliberate double registration.
On its surface, Crosscheck seems quite reasonable. Twenty-eight participating states share their voter lists and, in the name of dispassionate, race-blind Big Data, seek to ensure the rolls are up to date. To make sure the system finds suspect voters, Crosscheck supposedly matches first, middle and last name, plus birth date, and provides the last four digits of a Social Security number for additional verification.
In reality, however, there have been signs that the program doesn't operate as advertised. Some states have dropped out of Crosscheck, citing problems with its methodology, as Oregon's secretary of state recently explained: "We left [Crosscheck] because the data we received was unreliable."
In our effort to report on the program, we contacted every state for their Crosscheck list. But because voting twice is a felony, state after state told us their lists of suspects were part of a criminal investigation and, as such, confidential. Then we got a break. A clerk in Virginia sent us its Crosscheck list of suspects, which a letter from the state later said was done "in error."
The Virginia list was a revelation. In all, 342,556 names were listed as apparently registered to vote in both Virginia and another state as of January 2014. Thirteen percent of the people on the Crosscheck list, already flagged as inactive voters, were almost immediately removed, meaning a stunning 41,637 names were "canceled" from voter rolls, most of them just before Election Day...snip
How Restrictive Voting Laws Block Fergusons Citizens From Having Their Fair Say
Nearly 7 percent of African Americans in Missouri are barred from the vote because of a criminal conviction.
https://www.brennancenter.org/blog/how-restrictive-voting-laws-block-ferguson%E2%80%99s-citizens-having-their-fair-say
Botany
(70,498 posts)In Florida 2000 Jeb Bush hired a company that was called DBT and that company
removed 50,000 to 90,000+ African American voters from the voting rolls.
In OH in 2004 w/the help of Ken Blackwell 250,000 A.A. voters were made to vote
provisional ballots in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) ..... w "won" OH by 100,000
or so votes. BTW on the day after the 2004 election Ken Blackwell made many of
those provisional ballots disappear.
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Justice Willaim Rehnquist worked to stop minority voting in AZ in the 1960s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Eye_(United_States)
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)The only kind to make a difference. When you manipulate or exclude thousands of votes in one state. That cannot be done one by one, by individuals. That can only be done by the government.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)The more we're loudly obsessed with stolen votes, the more they quietly scheme and succeed at suppression.
It was already a huge topic here when I joined in time for the 2002 midterm.
blm
(113,044 posts)that black voters are just 'not turning out' for Dem 'message'.
The Polack MSgt
(13,186 posts)ehrnst
(32,640 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,080 posts)mfcorey1
(11,001 posts)they are now trying to claim that Blacks are not showing up. The 6th District is basically a republican area. I am praying it will turn blue!
JHan
(10,173 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)Demsrule86
(68,553 posts)538...but it's not.
LisaM
(27,803 posts)in Florida. They knocked 100,000 or more off the rolls, IIRC.
blm
(113,044 posts)and we have to counter that at every opportunity.
Gothmog
(145,130 posts)IronLionZion
(45,431 posts)Will an anti-voter-fraud program designed by one of Trump's advisers deny tens of thousands their right to vote in November?
The Crosscheck program is a response to the imaginary menace of mass voter fraud.
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/the-gops-stealth-war-against-voters-w435890
Point taken. I didn't know it was GOP propaganda when I posted it. I just want our people to vote and for our party to win elections again by earning votes. Take nothing and no one for granted.
mountain grammy
(26,619 posts)uponit7771
(90,335 posts)... when people don't acknowledge the KGOP roadblocks it sounds like they're try to minimize them to shame us.
byronius
(7,394 posts)Great post. Elephant in the room, nothing to see here, pay no attention to the massive droppings.
A sizable chunk of our nation is devotedly criminal and decidedly anti-American, but it only works for them when we act fuzzy-minded and confused about their machination.
A part of me is eternally embarrassed for them. They're Throwbacks to a much earlier age, refusing to acknowledge lessons learned through much human agony. Always the ass-end of history, conservatives. Same crew that insisted in the divine right of kings. Same crew that insisted the earth was at the center of the universe. They are the Millstone we must carry forward.
Every day I am grateful to not be one of them. Because it's technically insane to believe what they believe. A dark, ugly mindset based on ignorant fear and nothing else. Minds like a prison.
BeyondGeography
(39,369 posts)We just lost FL, NC, PA, OH, MI and WI to Trump, and five of those states were carried by Obama in 2012 with higher black turnout than HRC was able to realize. That's not GOP propaganda, a), b), it was always safe to assume that Obama's successor candidates would underperform him with the AA vote and c) even if you choose to believe that all our problems in swing states are a function of GOP skulduggery, where does that get us over the next four years of a Trump/Pence-run DOJ?
Looking at the numbers with a colder eye and analyzing what needs to be done politically to improve our performance isn't turning a blind eye to voter suppression, it's dealing with reality. And it's the best hedge against what we know is a never-ending legal battle for voting rights.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)until after you review how checks and balances work and the number of voting rights lawsuits that are being litigated by left-coalition members at this time. They are doing the things that can be done. Our job is to protest and GOTV like crazy.
Also, anyone who claims to be on the left team, was eligible to vote in 2010 but didn't and/or didn't vote for Clinton in 2016 has nothing but scorn from me.
diane in sf
(3,913 posts).
AllaN01Bear
(18,163 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,495 posts)on what Kris Kobach's "Voter Fraud" team is doing and what their devious plans are? Kobach needs to be denounced and exposed. Let's put a spotlight on this Anti-American racist and what he is doing!
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Many parts of the country had to get Federal Judges to sign off on any changes. Now you have to show harm and/or a pattern to even get a hearing. With the strictures removed, not only are the traditional Jim Crow states ratcheting up the suppression, all GOP jurisdictions are following the Koch fueled trend.
Dems have to run massive GOTV campaigns just to try to keep up with the legislated losses.
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)I know why we lost in 2016. Whatever voter suppression occurred, we could have won except for strategic and tactical errors by the Clinton (and I say this as a Clinton supporter who knew several people on her staff).
blm
(113,044 posts)And I say that as someone who is an unlikely defender of Clinton on many political issues.
; )