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OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:33 AM Jun 2017

Putting the Trump Russia Collusion together


What we believe we know (please comment if otherwise)

1 - Trump and Trump Inc has been involved with the NY Italian Mafia for decades (Casinos/Construction), and post 1989 with the NY Russian Mafia

2 - Through his Russian Mafia contacts, he was introduced to Putin allied Russian Billionaires

3 - We don't know at what point Russian Billionaires starting pumping money into Trump inc, but we do have this Donald jnr quote from 2008, “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.” Bear in mind that his later bankruptcies in 2004 and 2009, and found it hard to get US banks to fund him.

4 - The 2014 Obama sanctions on Russia made things extremely difficult for Billionaires to get their money out of Russia. It is believed that Trump got involved in business deals with Russians (not sure how long), that were effectively money laundering operations. Trump Tower Kazakhstan is a prime example, with Russian born Mafia associate/fixer Felix Sater and Bayrock.

So, by June 2015, Trump was enveloped by Russian State actors, owing massive amounts of money to Russian billionaires, so how do we go from there to Trump winning the WH ?

OK, so what else do we know ?

Jared Kushner, the Son in Law, also in massive debt to the Chinese, currently looking to re-finance....thought to be a link between the Russians and Trump on the Data Analytics project

Paul Manafort, a Republican operative with huge Republican contacts, a dirty amoral operator who has no problem taking money from any 2 bit cut throat dictator willing to use his "services", including Putin puppets in Ukraine. Manafort who bought his apartment in Trump Tower in 2006, the same year he reportedly signed a $10 million annual contract with Oleg Deripaska, a Russian business magnate and close Putin ally, to promote Russian interests internationally, whose private jet was regularly seen flying into airports where Trump was having rallies.

Felix Sater, Russia-born —a twice-convicted one-time Mafia associate, joined Bayrock in 2002. In 2010, Sater was made a “Senior Advisor to Donald Trump” and given an office on Trump’s floor in the Trump Tower, where he worked for roughly one year. Nevertheless, Trump consistently has testified in civil cases that he barely knew Sater, barely dealt with him and “wouldn’t recognize him if he was sitting in this [deposition] room.” However, Sater, in another civil case said he would often pop his head into Trump’s office to give him updates on a Moscow hotel deal he had in the works.

Mike Flynn, sacked as Director of the Defence Intelligence Agency by Obama for his bad management, has RW views on Islamic terrorism, appears to be quite bitter over that, associates his company with Russian companies and Putin. Has to be fired as NSC Advisor. Seen as central to Trump/Russia.

On the other side

Robert & Rebekah Mercer/Steve Bannon/Kelly Anne & George Conway. The Mercers are HARD Right Wing Billionaires, hateful of "Big Government" and have been pouring massive amounts of money into conservative groups/ideas attacking not just Democrats but mainstream conservatives.
The likes of Bannon are influencers in that agenda. The Conways are longstanding Clinton haters are happy to take part.

Peter Thiel, Billionaire Co-founder of Paypal, part of Trump's Transition team ....Trump made a cryptic comment about him, "I want to start by thanking Peter because he saw something very early, maybe before we saw it," Trump said. I maintain he will be a part of this Russian investigation at some point.

Mike Pence, parachuted in by Paul Manafort (why ?), was head of the Transition Team, yet lied that he knew nothing of Flynn's ties. There's an unexplained story how the Pence is connected to Manafort.

Erik Prince/Betsy de Vos, long time RWNJ associates of Pence, question is when did he start being a go-between with Putin's reps ?

Cambridge Analytica, propagates racism and fear mongers with fake news, in every country they work in. The Mercers were alledged to own CA, but it appears that they are more a favoured client than anything else. CA is more likely to be Putin connected than Mercer owned.

RNC, supposedly had done far more on the Data Mining side than the DNC/Obama.

Would it be fair to divide this into pre June 2015, and After June 2015, when Trump announces his run ? Should it be Pre June 2015 & After Ted Cruz drops out ?

They are the main actors, but the crucial ingredients

Data on 198m voters including home addresses, birthdates, and phone numbers, the records include advanced sentiment analyses used by political groups to predict where individual voters fall on hot-button issues such as gun ownership, stem cell research, and the right to abortion, as well as suspected religious affiliation and ethnicity. The data was amassed from a variety of sources.

https://medium.com/startup-grind/how-the-trump-campaign-built-an-identity-database-and-used-facebook-ads-to-win-the-election-4ff7d24269ac

Constructing the Project Alamo Database

Under the guidance of Jared Kushner, a senior campaign advisor and son-in-law of President-Elect Trump, Parscale quietly began building his own list of Trump supporters. Trump’s revolutionary database, named Project Alamo, contains the identities of 220 million people in the United States, and approximately 4,000 to 5,000 individual data points about the online and offline life of each person. Funded entirely by the Trump campaign, this database is owned by Trump and continues to exist.

Trump’s Project Alamo database was also fed vast quantities of external data, including voter registration records, gun ownership records, credit card purchase histories, and internet account identities. The Trump campaign purchased this data from certified Facebook marketing partners Experian PLC, Datalogix, Epsilon, and Acxiom Corporation. (Read here for instructions on how to remove your information from the databases of these consumer data brokers.)

Another critical supplier of data for the Trump campaign and Project Alamo was Cambridge Analytica, LLC, a data-science firm known for its psychological profiles of voters. As described by BusinessWeek, “Cambridge Analytica’s statistical models isolated likely supporters whom Parscale bombarded with ads on Facebook, while the campaign bought up e-mail lists from the likes of Gingrich and Tea Party groups to prospect for others.”

Statistical models from Cambridge Analytica also dictated Trump’s travel itinerary. The locations of Trump’s campaign rallies, the centerpiece of his media-centric candidacy, were chosen by a Cambridge Analytica algorithm that ranked places in a state with the largest clusters of persuadable voters.

“I wouldn’t have come aboard, even for Trump, if I hadn’t known they were building this massive Facebook and data engine,” says the Trump campaign Chairman Steve Bannon. (Bannon is also a Board Member of Cambridge Analytica.) “Facebook is what propelled Breitbart to a massive audience. We know its power.”


Also,

Russian State hackers attacking US State Election offices to get the Voter Rolls, possibly passing that data back to Trump Tower by that Alfa Bank server that was connected to the Trump servers.
https://gizmodo.com/gop-data-firm-accidentally-leaks-personal-details-of-ne-1796211612

The BIG question is were those married together ? Think about it, with all the Trump data, you know all the (likely) Democratic voters, but if you could like that with the Hacked Voter Rolls, you know who are actually registered to vote, and you can
target them with tailored hard hitting ads depending on ethnicity/sex/age, to depress Democrat turnout in key swing counties, saving lots of money.

As well as that, there's a suggestion that Voter Rolls may have been changed, so that when Democrat voter John Smith turns up to vote, he shows his driving licence and the official discovers that his date of birth does not match what they have.

So the mystery is who came up with the idea to do what they did, and who was involved ? Kushner ? Preibus ? Mercers ?
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shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. Another thing to think about. It only takes a few votes to turn in each precinct to
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:42 AM
Jun 2017

affect the outcome of the election in each state. Around 10 or 20 per precinct is all it would take.

njhoneybadger

(3,910 posts)
2. Robert mercer is the brain, Bannon is the dirty trick schemer
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 11:44 AM
Jun 2017

They probably set up kushner to take the fall.

OnDoutside

(19,953 posts)
5. What I wonder is who instigated it ? I get the feeling it was
Thu Jun 22, 2017, 01:59 PM
Jun 2017

a slow burner but gathered pace when the Mercers realized Cruz was finished, and they decided to back Trump. Again, who instigated that ? Remembering back to that time, there must have been savage hatred towards Trump from these hard "Christian" RWers. Was it the Mercers, or maybe Erik Prince ?

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