We need find out the shooter's religion and political affiliation

[marylandblue]

So we know who to blame: ISIS, liberals, or just a random act of nature.

[MANative]

1. Local news (Ch 4 NBC) is reporting that it's a "workplace" situation.

Recently terminated person.

As an HR exec, this scares me. I have to terminate someone in two weeks whom I know to be unstable. In NYC, and in a building with less than stellar security.

[leftstreet]

2. NYPD twitter says it's a former doctor, recently fired

[marylandblue]

3. Random act of nature then

These things can't be predicted.

[Not Ruth]

5. A terminated person is more likely to commit suicide than to come back to the workplace to kill

[MANative]

6. Yes, that's generally true, but the guy I'm dealing with has been prone to violence.

He's part of a company that we just acquired and the stories I've heard about his previous behavior are contributing to our decision to let him go. (They were scared to cut him loose - oi! - now it's my problem.) I've had extensive training (worked with Dr. Park Dietz) in managing workplace violence situations, but determined or unstable people aren't always "manageable." Working on a detailed plan to mitigate any issues, including generous severance and help finding another role, but we can't keep him.

[rufus dog]

7. So, I had a similar situation, make sure you get Security if you are concerned.

I took over a group that had numerous issues. Within a week I find out two guys (one of them told me) were written up for putting bugs in a ladies coffee and tacks on her chair. They thought she was transgender, so the guy telling me actually thought he was just bringing me up to speed and was laughing about it. I told him and his coworker that if the have any other issues with her I will fire them on the spot.

So the other guy turned out to be the main problem. He was an ex Desert Storm 1 Marine, I could manage him, he had an issue with almost everyone else though. I was in Europe and his direct boss called me and said he called her a fucking bitch. So I tell her to go home and work from home until I get back. Contact HR and tell them to set up a meeting for the next Monday morning at 9:00AM and to let the offender know that a written and verbal apology would be a part of his continued employment. (I actually wanted to fire him but HR refused said we didn't have enough written warnings on him, at this point I just knew of one)

So I get into the office early on Monday, one of the coworkers of the offender immediately comes to my office. Good guy, hard worker, ambitious, striving to improve himself. So he comes in and lets me know that he and the other coworker got into a fight shortly before I started. The good guy stepped in when the offending employee had pinned another employees head against the copier. Good guy tackles the Marine, pins him down and tells him he will kick his ass if he ever assaults a coworker again. Poor guy knew about my comment that I would fire the guys for messing with a lady and figures I was going to fire him for the fight. I explained to him that it was almost a year ago, he wasn't getting fired, but did HR know. He told me yup, they interviewed everyone!

So 9:00 AM comes along, I am sitting in a conference room with his direct boss, no HR!, they refuse to show up. Anyway see the guy walking in with a duffle bag. Luckily the room is tiny and he puts the bag on the floor so I have one option, flip the table onto him if he reaches down. Immediately I tell his direct boss to leave, and ask him what is in the bag. Within seconds his wife is running in and grabs him and physically pulls him out. When I quit the company he tells me he did have guns in the bag, but he wasn't going to shoot me.

Anyway, point being HR wasn't going to do jack shit, they ducked the meeting because they were afraid of him. So, get Security before going into your meeting.

[MANative]

8. I'm the HR exec, but also an operating exec for the company, so the whole process falls to me.

We're handling it as a position elimination, which helps somewhat as there's less need for confrontation. His job is not necessary in our structure, and we're going to give him a decent chunk of severance to ease him out. I was definitely planning to have Security standing in on this one.

[ck4829]

4. Seeing as Trump hasn't commented yet, it's safe to say he's a certain non-religion

[Iggo]

9. And then we can ban people of that religion from traveling to this country.

You know, until we find out what the heck is going on.

And shit.