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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhen oh when is Mueller going to lower the hammer on these knuckleheads?
He must have enough evidence by now to start taking them down and save the nation a lot more grief.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)This is not a game where there is any benefit to going off half cocked. You want to know you have everything you can get before pulling the trigger, because the game changes once indictments are issued.
Also, call me cynical, but I wonder if we'll actually see any recommendations for indictments.
LakeArenal
(28,817 posts)Disclosure seems to be far away..
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)proof.
CK_John
(10,005 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)It amazes me how people "know" and that's enough. Lots of people "knew" Obama was really born in Kenya too.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)I know they need to careful but the white house is trying to destroy this country.
dem4decades
(11,283 posts)You beat a horse dead, then you beat a dead horse.
He's still working on it, quietly, it's a good thing.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)That is concrete enough to give us what we would like. That said, the information he had coming in and the fact that it is ongoing leads me to believe he does have concrete information on multiple individuals. I'm sure he is also crossing every t and dotting all of his i's as this is going to be directed at Republicans guaranteed many will try to make it look like the FBI is playing politics. That's not his thing.
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)"Taking down" a President and his cronies is not as simple as most people think. In fact, it's very difficult, indeed. Nixon resigned. Clinton didn't get removed after being impeached. No President has ever been impeached and removed from office.
Short of the impeachment and removal process, there is no real way to remove a President. Yes, some of those surrounding him can be removed or imprisoned, but the President has a position that is very well protected from such actions.
People mention Article 25, but generally, they have not actually read how that process works. It's not a viable way to remove a President permanently and is even more difficult than impeachment and removal, since it requires 2/3 majorities of both houses of Congress.
So, Mueller is not going to act soon. Really, the investigation is still in its early stages and is still organizing itself. I'm sure it will be done thoroughly and expedited as much as possible, but nothing is going to happen quickly. It really can't.
Really, the only ways Trump will leave office soon will be through resignation or if he dies unexpectedly. It's highly unlikely that he will be forced out of office, given the Republican majorities in both houses of Congress. The best outcome of the Mueller investigation would be enough damning information to force Trump to resign.
That's how it is, I'm afraid. When a President takes office, it's very difficult to get that person out of office. Nearly impossible, in fact, short of a resignation.
shockey80
(4,379 posts)This investigation did not start with Mueller. This investigation started almost a year ago. It has grown. This is one of the biggest investigations in our countries history. It's still growing. Trump is committing more crimes as he tweets himself to death. I understand how everyone here feels. Hurry!
UTUSN
(70,684 posts)wears me out. I'm old, want to see outcomes *soon*!1
It's like those cable "unsolved" mysteries and chases after the ark of the covenant, where they spend an hour setting up the suspense and then end without an answer - I want *SOLVED* mysteries!1
Dulcinea
(6,629 posts)But not before. Sadly, that will take time. Watergate took 2 years.
And, someone in the know has to talk.