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Have you seen this Ancestory ad? (Original Post) DURHAM D Jul 2017 OP
It's stunningly brilliant. n/t targetpractice Jul 2017 #1
That's great! KT2000 Jul 2017 #2
Yes.....and it's just perfect for these times. eom a kennedy Jul 2017 #3
Gave me chills. Thanks for posting. Squinch Jul 2017 #4
That is absolutely fantastic. I teared right up. nolabear Jul 2017 #5
Me too. forgotmylogin Jul 2017 #70
:) Solly Mack Jul 2017 #6
Yet today, some of them would be told by Ellis Island descendents to "go back to Africa" BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #7
Given that Ellis Island didn't open until the 1890s DURHAM D Jul 2017 #8
And unfortunately the cultural conditioning hasn't encouraged folks to do just that. BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #10
You have the dumbass at youtube rpannier Jul 2017 #60
Cool ad. Makes you think. Nt Grammy23 Jul 2017 #9
Rightwing knuckledragger's heads explode all up in here HAB911 Jul 2017 #11
Beautiful. Simply beautiful NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #12
Well damn. That brought us both to tears... Hekate Jul 2017 #13
Excellent! GeoWilliam750 Jul 2017 #14
It is inspiring- KrazyinKS Jul 2017 #15
Bet that triggered a **it load of reich wing snowflakes! workinclasszero Jul 2017 #16
Yeah probably 47of74 Jul 2017 #31
No doubt Hieronymus Jul 2017 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #17
We are probably related - 13th and 14th generation American here. DURHAM D Jul 2017 #19
Undoubtedly Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #29
Wow! Duppers Jul 2017 #34
I loved it the first time I saw it malaise Jul 2017 #18
Oh wow. Tears. Beautiful. Love it! Thank you. Silver Gaia Jul 2017 #20
"Our sacred honor" - that's a concept the republicans piss all over Achilleaze Jul 2017 #21
It is a good ad .... jb5150 Jul 2017 #22
Do tell flamingdem Jul 2017 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #27
They seem to have produced some really good programmers. DURHAM D Jul 2017 #30
Those little flapping leaves draw me in.. flamingdem Jul 2017 #32
The way I see it . . . markpkessinger Jul 2017 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #40
Baptize them and even marry them if they were living in sin. Ligyron Jul 2017 #43
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #45
Their genealogy projects are a mixed blessing. Mom used their library extensively... Hekate Jul 2017 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #41
Very much on point . . . markpkessinger Jul 2017 #49
That was my advantage as well. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #51
I found errors in the Mormon database early on . . . markpkessinger Jul 2017 #54
The user has to know how to do research csziggy Jul 2017 #56
No, Ancestry has never belonged to the Mormon Church csziggy Jul 2017 #55
I did not know about FamilySearch.org. DURHAM D Jul 2017 #64
This message was self-deleted by its author Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #65
There is a Mormon link - the people who started Ancestry.com csziggy Jul 2017 #72
The way Ancestry.com works is that if you give them a sample, the LDS own the rights to your DNA Heaven Sent Jul 2017 #68
My DNA test was part of the National Geographic project. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2017 #73
Beautiful LiberalLovinLug Jul 2017 #24
omg, it actually brought me to tears. BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2017 #25
That gave me chills Mickju Jul 2017 #26
Nice nt trocar Jul 2017 #28
need to test. said we are cousin's of abe lincoln. have secretary of state on another side. pansypoo53219 Jul 2017 #33
Thanks! LAS14 Jul 2017 #37
Excellent!! Thank you for posting this ailsagirl Jul 2017 #38
That is wonderful! Mountain Mule Jul 2017 #39
Beautiful sheshe2 Jul 2017 #42
Mahalo for that, Durham! Cha Jul 2017 #44
Kick. zentrum Jul 2017 #46
Recommended! panader0 Jul 2017 #48
We did the Ancestry DNA test.. Books_Tea_Alone Jul 2017 #50
That is a world I can be proud of, and proud to be part of. warmfeet Jul 2017 #52
Is this the one with the Jefferson decendents? I saw it for the first time earlier today... TheDebbieDee Jul 2017 #53
The ad linked to has descendants from 26 of signers dflprincess Jul 2017 #61
KICK! Cha Jul 2017 #57
That . . . peggysue2 Jul 2017 #58
Wow...... Just Wow. magicarpet Jul 2017 #59
Nice message. Thanks. nt DURHAM D Jul 2017 #63
AND, 1776 elleng Jul 2017 #62
Yes, once. I was wondering what they were trying to sell me. mahatmakanejeeves Jul 2017 #66
K and r. nt cwydro Jul 2017 #67
saw this the other day AllaN01Bear Jul 2017 #69
tears here for that beautiful ad! niyad Jul 2017 #71

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
8. Given that Ellis Island didn't open until the 1890s
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 01:41 PM
Jul 2017

I assume they would say "You go back. We were here 250+ years before you."

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
10. And unfortunately the cultural conditioning hasn't encouraged folks to do just that.
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 01:45 PM
Jul 2017

That's what's so fucked up about this country sometimes.

I think the whole "multiculturalism" debate of the '90s attempted to get that type of history into the curriculum but it was eventually diluted because people embraced and weaponized the idiotic term "politically correct".

rpannier

(24,328 posts)
60. You have the dumbass at youtube
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 10:39 PM
Jul 2017

...anyone come from Chicongo?
Some people are idiots, racists and definitely not as clever as they think they are

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
13. Well damn. That brought us both to tears...
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 02:16 PM
Jul 2017

While Trump and his RW goons are trying to rip this nation apart, someone remembered what we always thougt we were striving for.

My eyes seem to still be leaking.

KrazyinKS

(291 posts)
15. It is inspiring-
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 02:43 PM
Jul 2017

I think we all needed that these days. So much derogatory bull, so much what's in it for me crap. I got mine so the hell with you.

Response to DURHAM D (Original post)

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
19. We are probably related - 13th and 14th generation American here.
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 03:14 PM
Jul 2017

Don't have any that moved south as far as I know. However, have a couple of ancestors that returned home to fight in the English Civil War.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
34. Wow!
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 04:21 PM
Jul 2017









Btw, my husband's family have records back to Capt. John Smith's entourage in Jamestown, then later in Philadelphia, but he feels as you do.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
21. "Our sacred honor" - that's a concept the republicans piss all over
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 03:24 PM
Jul 2017

all the time, through their misbegotten Draft-Dodger-in-Chief, and in myriad other ways.

jb5150

(1,177 posts)
22. It is a good ad ....
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 03:28 PM
Jul 2017

but I know several people who have some rather unpleasant things to say about the company.

Response to flamingdem (Reply #23)

flamingdem

(39,308 posts)
32. Those little flapping leaves draw me in..
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 03:58 PM
Jul 2017

.. always some new relative popping up, yes the programming is well done but is the devil in the details?

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
35. The way I see it . . .
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 04:30 PM
Jul 2017

. . . is that Ancestry.com, irrespective of who owns it, provides an invaluable service. And if it makes the Mormons happy to imagine they are "baptizing" my long-dead relatives, then hey, knock yourselves out!

Response to markpkessinger (Reply #35)

Ligyron

(7,622 posts)
43. Baptize them and even marry them if they were living in sin.
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 05:56 PM
Jul 2017

Saw it happen.

Wonder what that cost the rubes?

Response to Ligyron (Reply #43)

Hekate

(90,565 posts)
36. Their genealogy projects are a mixed blessing. Mom used their library extensively...
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 04:45 PM
Jul 2017

...in writing her four thoroughly-sourced books on the family, in addition to obtaining old family letters and documents, plus a wide correspondence by US Post and later by email with all kinds of places that keep vital statistics. She included ships' manifests and Census records in her books, among other things.

I didn't know Ancestry.com was a Mormon project, but in a way it figures. It looks to me like a really neat place to go if you don't want to spend a couple of decades on this hobby, and probably a fun place to start if you do.

Response to Hekate (Reply #36)

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
49. Very much on point . . .
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 06:57 PM
Jul 2017

I have used Ancestry, and have found it to be incredibly helpful, but you are right: it is critically important to examine those "hints" carefully. In my case, I had a lot of information when I started, since my family, on both sides, has lived in central PA (Clinton and Centre counties) since before the Revolutionary War, and I grew up knowing where most of them are buried. So I started out on a more reliable footing than a lot of folks are able to start with.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
51. That was my advantage as well.
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 07:10 PM
Jul 2017

One of my grandfather's younger brothers got into genealogy as a hobby when he retired...thirty years ago. The assistance of a reputable professional geneaologist helped blaze the trail way before Ancestry.com. Also helped that my ancestors were fairly sedentary and stayed in PA until my grandfather met with grandmother in Alabama courtesy of the USO in WWII.

If you're from pre-Revolutionary War PA, I wouldn't be at all surprised if we were to have a common ancestor somewhere in the mix.

markpkessinger

(8,392 posts)
54. I found errors in the Mormon database early on . . .
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 07:48 PM
Jul 2017

. . . and have avoided making use of it without corroborating documentary evidence. In my family, there were two William Frederick Kessingers -- one was my great grandfather, and the other was his uncle. The Mormon database has information for both of them conflated into a single person.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
56. The user has to know how to do research
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 08:32 PM
Jul 2017

You don't EVER rely on other people's information.

I use Ancestry to get scans of original documents to verify my research into family history. If I reach a brick wall I might look at other people's trees to check out what records they have to see if they have found something I missed. Sometimes that can help, more often I find a heap of garbage.

While I am an amateur genealogist I have plenty of experience - I helped my Mom with her research in the 1960s, and digitized the records from both parents' sides. My current project is to scan all the old documentation that has been held out of sight in my family's hands and to get that and the hundreds of family photos online. Now we have inherited my mother in laws' research and cache of family photos and documents and my husband is scanning those.

My father's great grandfather was doing family research in the 1870s - we have a letter from his cousin discussing the problems caused when their great grandfather changed the spelling of his last name. Because my grandmother had his research she never bothered with such modern documents as census or deeds though her great uncle the county judge did obtain every will with that last name in the county they came from in New York.

I know the problems with the trees on Ancestry.com - one of my branches has a string of Aaron Harlans. There are at least four or five of them, not a one with a Sr, Jr or III after their names. So many of the trees on Ancestry have them,their wives and their children hopelessly entangled it is amazing.

The new problem is with DNA results - while I trust the science, I don't always trust the deductions made from the results. I have an ancestor whose father we've never verified. Most people think they know who the father is and that his second wife is the mother. I was recently contacted by someone who is descended from the second wife and her first husband. Apparently our DNA shows a link and that was the only common element he could find. Problem is, we're talking six generations back and he has not fully researched his tree and what he has researched is not documented. I don't trust his results as verification for this parentage for my ancestor.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
55. No, Ancestry has never belonged to the Mormon Church
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 07:58 PM
Jul 2017

It was started as Infobases, Inc. by Paul B. Allen and Dan Taggart. They got their start by putting LDS genealogical information on floppy diskss and selling them out of the back seat of their car. LAter they upgraded the digital format to CDs and finally went online in 1994.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry.com#Infobases.2C_Inc.

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"In October 2012, Ancestry.com agreed to be acquired by a private equity group consisting of Permira Advisers LLP, members of Ancestry.com's management team, including CEO Tim Sullivan and CFO Howard Hochhauser, and Spectrum Equity, for $32 per share or around $1.6 billion.[45][46] At the same time, Ancestry.com purchased a photo digitization and sharing service called 1000Memories."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancestry.com#Ancestry.com
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LDS has their own database, FamilySearch.org which has some overlap with Ancestry.com but which offers some information not on Ancestry. FamilySearch.org is free while Ancestry is pretty expensive.

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
64. I did not know about FamilySearch.org.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:13 AM
Jul 2017

Looks like they have a lot of international records. Thanks.

Response to csziggy (Reply #55)

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
72. There is a Mormon link - the people who started Ancestry.com
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 01:17 PM
Jul 2017

Were probably Mormon - they graduated from Brigham Young University and their base of operation has always been in Utah, Orem and Provo.

But FamilySearch.org is the "official" LDS genealogy site.

 

Heaven Sent

(39 posts)
68. The way Ancestry.com works is that if you give them a sample, the LDS own the rights to your DNA
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:55 AM
Jul 2017

Read the fine print. I won't go with Ancestry.com for that very reason. There are other options like 23andme.com

Mickju

(1,797 posts)
26. That gave me chills
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 03:38 PM
Jul 2017

and tears to my eyes as I watch the destruction of my country. I am despondent right now.

pansypoo53219

(20,959 posts)
33. need to test. said we are cousin's of abe lincoln. have secretary of state on another side.
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 03:59 PM
Jul 2017

maybe prove the lincoln thing.

LAS14

(13,769 posts)
37. Thanks!
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 04:47 PM
Jul 2017

Have e-mailed and Facebook shared. I wish stuff like this got as much press as that damned NRA ad.

Mountain Mule

(1,002 posts)
39. That is wonderful!
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 05:15 PM
Jul 2017

I'm a true blue American Heinz 57. I can trace my ancestors back to Massachusetts in the 1600's and we have plenty of Native American and Afro-American blood as well. My mother got here from Switzerland via airplane in the 1950's. So we came by land, by air, and by sea - Americans all! I am proud of the diversity of my heritage. Thanks for that! Something Trumpf supporters should be forced to watch at least 3X per day!

Books_Tea_Alone

(253 posts)
50. We did the Ancestry DNA test..
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 07:01 PM
Jul 2017

My family always thought it was mostly of Italian descent with some German and Scandinavian mixed in (traced back to Revolutionary War on that side).

My parents and siblings are ardent Trumpinistas and overt racists- hated Obama with a passion because of his race and buy into the Fox News propaganda about Muslims and anyone from the Middle East needs to be banned.

So we do the Ancestry DNA test and guess what?? We are 12% of Middle Eastern and 5% African descent They were very interested in the results until I told them what the report showed - then I heard how much of a scam it was and they didn't believe it lol! Typical!
It is a pretty cool thing to find out!


 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
53. Is this the one with the Jefferson decendents? I saw it for the first time earlier today...
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 07:26 PM
Jul 2017

I thought it was cute that the man boasts that he and senior Jefferson has the same nose...

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
61. The ad linked to has descendants from 26 of signers
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 10:43 PM
Jul 2017

reading lines from the Declaration. They managed to find descendants of all races the intent, in part, to show that we are and never have been a nation of just old white guys. It being Ancestry.com they also want to lure people in by reminding us you'll never know who may show up in the family tree until you look.

The Ancestry site does have the man you're referring to & his comments. And I think he's right, he does appear to have Tom's nose.

peggysue2

(10,825 posts)
58. That . . .
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 09:25 PM
Jul 2017

is a 4th of July gift, so appropriate for this moment of time.

Made my heart swell. Thank you. We need these reminders.

magicarpet

(14,124 posts)
59. Wow...... Just Wow.
Sun Jul 2, 2017, 10:19 PM
Jul 2017

Some of the nicest stuff gets posted here at DU.

A very diverse family of collaborators seeking to inform one another.

Thank you for this post.

And Happy July Fourth to all the co-conspirators here who endeavor to make America a better place.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
66. Yes, once. I was wondering what they were trying to sell me.
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 08:36 AM
Jul 2017

The answer was at the end. It's worth watching.

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