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Jimbo101

(776 posts)
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:48 AM Jul 2017

Court: Energy firm can pass $55M cleanup costs to customers

ABC News

The Ohio Supreme Court says an energy company is allowed to pass on the $55 million cost of cleaning up two polluted sites to its customers in the form of an added charge on their monthly bills.

Duke Energy has been adding $1.67 to bills in Ohio for about three years to help pay for the cleanup of two long-closed facilities in Cincinnati. A spokeswoman says the charge will likely continue for two more years.

The Supreme Court ruled last week that cleanup costs can be treated like other business expenses.

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Court: Energy firm can pass $55M cleanup costs to customers (Original Post) Jimbo101 Jul 2017 OP
I'm torn on this as the same thing is happening here in NC Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #1
That's a good point and agree Loki Liesmith Jul 2017 #2
Even then they didn't really have a choice Lee-Lee Jul 2017 #3
Doing the same in Florida HAB911 Jul 2017 #4
There not exactly non-profit .,.. GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #5
This is why those who make these decisions should face jail time dsc Jul 2017 #8
as a rate payer in Florida onethatcares Jul 2017 #6
In Kansas I've been paying out the azzz for a Nuke plant they DID build......... Bengus81 Jul 2017 #7
I was a teenager when a nuclear plant was being built in my area dsc Jul 2017 #9
 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
1. I'm torn on this as the same thing is happening here in NC
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 11:55 AM
Jul 2017

It's not like there is any other source of funds for the utility, so no matter how you cut it cleanup will be funded by the rate payers.

I was against the fee hike until a friend mentioned that all the time they were making the mess instead of properly disposing of it they were able to keep rates lower by dodging the expense, so all the customers are just paying later what they would have paid then.

Loki Liesmith

(4,602 posts)
2. That's a good point and agree
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 12:06 PM
Jul 2017

But the rate payers are getting hit all at once with those costs... and they had imperfect information when they made their economic choices. They didn't know the company was acting improperly. That said there's no choice but to do this, really. Unless we break up the company and sell off some assets to others. But that would disrupt the cleanup and remediation.

 

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)
3. Even then they didn't really have a choice
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 01:48 PM
Jul 2017

Power companies are monopolies so their openly choice would have been not have electricity.

A lot of these messes date back to the 40's-60's when people didn't have the same environmental awareness we do now and even given a choice likely would have just opted for the cheap power.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
8. This is why those who make these decisions should face jail time
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 05:17 PM
Jul 2017

and frankly felony murder when their shortcuts kill people. Let a utility CEO spend a few decades in jail for spreading poison and maybe the rest of them won't do it.

onethatcares

(16,163 posts)
6. as a rate payer in Florida
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 03:23 PM
Jul 2017

i get rhe privelege of paying for a nuclear power plant that they willl never build.

I am a lucky duck

Bengus81

(6,928 posts)
7. In Kansas I've been paying out the azzz for a Nuke plant they DID build.........
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 03:40 PM
Jul 2017

It went on-line back in the late 80's. It was so far over cost during construction it would have bankrupted the utility company IF they weren't allowed to NAIL rate payers with a huge rate hike well before it became operational. And they of course DID. At one point in time after it had been up and running for a few years we had the highest electric rates in a five state area--don't EVER belive any BS PR about how cheap a Nuke plant will be once built and then running,it's a LIE.

I'm not sure how long a nuke plant can run before needing to be de-commissioned but I've heard that cost makes the original const look like peanuts. We're coming up on year 30 pretty soon.

Luckily they came to their senses around here years ago and started building wind farms. Gosh...the wind blows all the time in Kansas,duhhhh. They've also been ramping up on solar too. By the end of this year we'll be at about 33% generation using renewables.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
9. I was a teenager when a nuclear plant was being built in my area
Mon Jul 3, 2017, 05:21 PM
Jul 2017

we were literally told that electricity would be so plentiful and cheap they wouldn't meter it. Of course, that was a total crock.

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