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Trump voter fighting cerebral palsy fears life would be destroyed by massive Trumpcare cuts
The Washington Posts Catherine Rampell reports that 36-year-old Trump voter Bradley Ledgerwood is worried about proposed cuts to two programs that have helped him survive ever since he was diagnosed with cerebral palsy at the age of just two years old: Medicaid and legal aid.
Medicaid, whose future spending would face an $800 billion cut under the GOPs health care bill, delivered funding to help his mother quit her job so she could take care of him full time. And the federally-funded Legal Aid of Arkansas helped Ledgerwood pay for a successful legal appeal when the Arkansas Department of Human Services abruptly cut his allotted care-giving hours in half.
While the Medicaid cuts in the GOP health bill have been well documented, Rampell also notes that Trumps proposed budget would completely eliminate federal funding for the Arkansas Legal Aid program.
Without the help of both programs, Ledgerwood tells Rampell, he would have wound up in a nursing home.
That would destroy my life, he said.
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/that-would-destroy-my-life-trump-voter-battling-ms-fears-massive-trumpcare-and-gop-budget-cuts/
dsc
(52,158 posts)He was perfectly willing to see everyone else's life ruined.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Thanks
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)Bettie
(16,095 posts)then, I'm betting most everyone has sympathy for you and others who will lose in this whole debacle.
For the guy referenced in the OP? He chose his fate, eyes wide open.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)All of us, who are in the boat that you dobn't care sinks if this guy is on it.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)And we can't criticize those who voted for him.
That's quite a winning strategy you've proposed.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)You have no evidence and are simply spreading your hatred of him so far and wide that it contributes to the hate his supporters are spreading with policies they hope will hurt me rather than Trump voters.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)And I won't apologize for it, no matter who scolds me for it.
With respect, you are spreading your (understandable) resentment over the treatment you've received and incorrectly applying it to anyone who makes a statement that you don't like.
I've heard all about that angry crip stereotype. Confirmation of liberal bigotry is always a disappointment, however.
Orrex
(63,203 posts)I am respecting their choices and respecting their right to live with those choices.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)about the well being of the idiot that drilled holes in our boat? That makes no sense. Only because he realizes those holes are going to sink HIS boat does he suddenly give a crap.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)If you're willing to take dlight in the damage done to one voter out of spite while cheerfully watching people you claim to care about die just because he is among us you are most certainly not.
Doodley
(9,088 posts)the captain would die.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Number one, I take no joy seeing harm come to others. Second, I'm talented enough to have compassion for the innocent while having a burning hot hatred for the guilty. Third, I never claimed to be a saint so fuck those Shit Gibbon voters.
Every single person who voted for Trump is an idiot, and I would be very happy to let every single one of those idiots enjoy the full consequences of voting for their top idiot.
At the same time, I am angry at every one of those idiots because of the direct and extensive harm their idiot vote inflicts upon innocent people who will suffer Trump's policies through no fault of their own.
It is an insult to insist that those two views cannot be held simultaneously.
Bettie
(16,095 posts)I do care if the safety net is ripped away from those who need it.
I simply don't have any particular sympathy for this guy and those who, like him, CHOSE to have that safety net shredded. Who WANTED it shredded, but for everyone else, not themselves.
I also have little sympathy for the guy who jumps off a building and breaks bones than I do for the other guy who happened to be walking by and got landed on by the first guy. See, guy one made a choice, guy two got harmed by guy one's actions through no fault of his own.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)not having sympathy for innocent people hurt by this.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)You show no concern over whether or not it hurts anyone.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)loyalsister
(13,390 posts)there is no way to credibly argue in favor of ensuring only people he likes don't get hurt. It's kind of like trying argue in favor of a violent invasion of a country and against killing civilians.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)because I didn't care that the one Jewish man who supported Hitler got caught up in the dragnet and thought he got what he deserved and told him that he didn't care about anyone else until it affected him?
dsc
(52,158 posts)but I am saying that if we fail then this man should be way down on the list of those whom we should try to help out.
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)dsc
(52,158 posts)it is just everyone else he couldn't care less about.
BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)I would bet you, dollars to donuts, we'd see the demise of the Republican Party in ONE election cycle.
But because they know they can benefit from Democratic programs while voting "their conservative conscience", they'll continue to elect morons who are PAID (handsomely!) to destroy this fragile thing we call American democracy and what little social safety net we have.
Next step in their anti-American idiotic plan: blame Democrats when that happens. It won't be hard since Green/Socialist/Communist Parties froth at the mouth - just like Republicans - in attacking the Democratic Party. Those fringe Parties give the GOP the credibility and legitimacy they need in order to continue to lie, cheat, and attack Democrats and keep us out of power.
DetlefK
(16,423 posts)Trump is a documented liar. The GOP wants to kill social expenses.
And now this guy is all shocked that Trump lied when he said he wants to protect Medicaid and that the GOP wants to kill Medicaid.
BREAKING NEWS: Dog bites man.
Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)I guess Trump's public mockery of a disabled person wasn't enough to change Bradley Ledgerwood's support for Trump.
He says Trump may lose his support if he loses his lawyer and services.
Another Trumpian who doesn't give two shits about other people but only cares if he is personally affected.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)These people just blow my mind. He majorly fucks them over and they STILL stick by him. I'm sorry, I have no pity for them. They can burn in hell for all I care.
Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)although he may feel differently if he loses his services and lawyer. Seems he doesn't care if other people lose their services.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)It only matters if THEY are harmed. To hell with everyone else. These people make me sick. I hate to say it, but I almost hope they do lose their services. It would serve them right.
Bluepinky
(2,268 posts)bhusar
(131 posts)Despite losing her Medicaid she still supports Trump. The key line in this article. That's the problem with most of his supporters. They will go along with it and eventually blame it on the Dems.
Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)WHEREVER we are at in 2018 on ObamaCare, Trump will blame Obama.
If he has failed to "repeal and replace," he will blame Obama and the Dems for his own failure to keep a key "campaign promise."
If he actually gets away with it, he'll blame Obama as the body count rises.
It's all Obama's fault, no matter what happens, and the sad fact is that Trump's 35% already has that dialed in. He will NOT need to do a "hard sell" on that.
Freethinker65
(10,010 posts)Too bad we, as a country, cannot just take the coverage away from Trump voters, leaving the non-Trump voters with the coverage they want and need?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)and voted properly.
Caliman73
(11,735 posts)Despite all this, Ledgerwood still supports Trumps presidency, but tells Rampbell that if I lose my lawyer and my services, I may feel a little differently.
The simple selfishness of the average Trump supporter is astounding. While many of the policies that Trump's administration will not negatively affect me or my family that strongly, my concern is for people who need that extra help to get by, to get some security during difficult times, to simply live. I think about people in my extended family, people I know and work with, but I also think about people I don't know, who I will never meet. I think about how a society that takes care of each other looks versus one where the primary idea is to take care of number 1.
After knowing what policy proposals supported by Trump will do and have done to him, this guy STILL supports him. Not until after his life is almost literally destroyed "MAY" this man feel "A LITTLE" differently.
Coventina
(27,104 posts)So I will say to Legerwood, FUCK YOU!!!!
Sorry, we're both ranting at the same guy......
Just goes to show...being disabled doesn't mean you are any more enlightened than able-bodied cretins.
Caliman73
(11,735 posts)Having challenges that are part of your identity, that often make things more difficult for you to access the same things in ways that people without those challenges can (I.E. Gender, sexual orientation, skin color, etc...) is often thought of as an inroad to a more sensitive understanding of others. Like you said, I does not mean that you can extrapolate from your own experience.
Often times people are indoctrinated to hate themselves for being themselves and to view other people like themselves as inherently bad. We see it all the time with Black and Latino conservatives and women who are conservative as well. They see themselves as "outside" the flawed identity, even while acknowledging that the identity is a target of unfair criticism.
It certainly does not make you more enlightened. A selfish jerk is a selfish jerk.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)elias7
(3,997 posts)If you want a social safety net, don't vote Republican
If you want workplace equity and fairness, don't vote Republican
If you want social justice, don't vote Republican
If you want a clean, safe environment, don't vote Republican
If you believe in the golden rule, don't vote Republican
Remember,
regulations are what protects the little guy from the big guys,
unions protect the little guys from the big guys,
taxes protect the little guys from the big guys
Stop drinking the koolaid, stop seeing political parties as sport teams to be rooted for or against, learn to recognize when your news source is editorializing and catering to your phobias, learn to think for yourself.
kimbutgar
(21,131 posts)"...., don't vote Republican" is exactly what the Dem message should be!! Clear and concise (yes, I understand some of the RW zealots will never open their minds) but we need to start speaking in simple sound bites to point out what makes Dems different from Repugs.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)dalton99a
(81,455 posts)and his party will have his back"
Well, good luck with that.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)the House and Senate proposals.
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,894 posts)He'll never understand or accept that the people who cared enough to fight to save him and others like him were not the dreck he voted for who didn't give a shit about him.
Cha
(297,156 posts)give a shit about other people and barely about himself.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Just FYI.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)A federal lawsuit today says the Arkansas Department of Human Services has arbitrarily cut Medicaid services for severely disabled people, which could force them into nursing homes.
The suit, brought by Legal Aid of Arkansas, is on behalf of Bradley Ledgerwood, 34, of Cash and Ethel Jacobs, 90, of West Helena. It says reductions in their services amount to violations of several federal laws and the Constitution.
https://www.arktimes.com/ArkansasBlog/archives/2016/05/03/still-more-harm-to-the-needy-alleged-in-lawsuit
sinkingfeeling
(51,448 posts)hatrack
(59,584 posts)LonePirate
(13,417 posts)He has no reason to be upset. Instead, he should be elated. Then again, this voter is an obvious dumbass.
SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)They made their beds. Now they're just going to have to die in them.
NCDem777
(458 posts)you have to vote for disability friendly candidates
Bettie
(16,095 posts)he got what he voted for. It isn't as if any of this was a secret or should be a surprise.
I'll save my sympathy for those who are losing their services along with him, even though they voted for the candidate who got the most votes.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)If his own debilitating condition couldn't convince him to vote other than he did, I doubt mere outreach could either.
Thus, I'm led to believe that outreach is, in far too many cases, nothing more than a waste of time, and a waste of admonition from anyone calling on us to do so.
Coventina
(27,104 posts)(Neither am I, but I was smart enough to vote for the party that cares).
Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)The moron voted in favor of losing his health care.
pstokely
(10,525 posts)not good christians like him who don't abuse the system
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)I thought minorities gays and immigrants were destroying your life, buddy? which is why you still worship cheeto.
This guy can fuck off.
onecaliberal
(32,829 posts)I just cannot muster sympathy for these people. Every word that comes out of the maggots mouth is a lie. Everyone with a brain knows that.
SharonClark
(10,014 posts)MiddleClass
(888 posts)And we wonder why Republicans have boiled down talking points to EZ simplistic taglines
like Winston Churchill said: the best criticism of democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter
MiddleClass
(888 posts)If I'm not personally affected. The problem doesn't exist.
Senator Portman was anti-gay-rights until his son informed him he was gay.
These idiots vote to destroy their lives and then bellyache about what their chosen One is doing.
In America, you have the constitutional right to be willfully uninformed and still vote in the election,
and look for sympathy for how much you are going to get screwed by that candidate.
And then they will blame Democrats for not stopping them.
dsc
(52,158 posts)to the best of my knowledge. The only issue he did move on is marriage.
sinkingfeeling
(51,448 posts)maxrandb
(15,323 posts)"Go Fuck Yourself"
Seriously! Oh, is that to harsh to say to someone with cerebral palsy? Well, fuck that noise too!
My words won't throw you out on the street, or cause you mother to work a street-corner, BUT...your fucking vote for that sack of shit certainly will harm people who WILL be thrown out in the street.
So again, as your lord and master has said several time...Go FUCK Yourself!
Maybe your "able-bodied" mom needs to get a couple of jobs so that you can quit being a fucking "taker"
Sorry, Mr. Ledgerwood, but the ReTrumplicans haven't figured out how to just cut-off the brown people and let "you" keep "your" social safety net.
They're working on it, but they just haven't figured it out yet.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)dembotoz
(16,799 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Zero sympathy for a an idiot that voted for this mental midget. If my attitude pisses some off, tough toenails. This asshole's vote, along with the other assholes that voted for him, reflected that they care not one bit about anybody else but themselves so I'm more than happy to reciprocate.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)ACA?