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or only 3 as trump told Poland and the world? which one is it? if there really ARE 17 then that fact and those agencies need to be made public or else trump is just calling us fake again!
sfwriter
(3,032 posts)https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/us/politics/trump-russia-intelligence-agencies-cia-fbi-nsa.html
"President Trump said on Thursday that only three or four of the United States 17 intelligence agencies had concluded that Russia interfered in the presidential election a statement that while technically accurate, is misleading and suggests widespread dissent among American intelligence agencies when none has emerged.
The three or four agencies referred to by Mr. Trump are the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the F.B.I. and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, all of which determined that Russia interfered in the election. Their work was compiled into a report, and a declassified version was released on Jan. 6 by the director of national intelligence. It said that all four agencies had high confidence that Russian spies had tried to interfere in the election on the orders of President Vladimir V. Putin.
The reason the views of only those four intelligence agencies, not all 17, were included in the assessment is simple: They were the ones tracking and analyzing the Russian campaign. The rest were doing other work."
angrychair
(8,686 posts)The FBI, CIA and NSA all would have submitted their respective reports to the ODNI (people say "DNI" but this is more a reference to a specific person, as the ODNI -Office of the Director of National Intelligence - is actually where these reports would have gone). They (ODNI) would (should) have cross-referenced the findings against existing intel from other agencies (including FBI, CIA and NSA) and checked the findings, compiled the report and submitted it to the director's office (DNI) for approval and release as relevant.
ODNI is more of a research, clearinghouse and coordination center for intel services than an actual intel service in the context of the CIA or NSA. All the 16 (ODNI/DNI itself makes 17) answer to the director (DNI).
By being approved and "published" by DNI it is, in a defacto sense, being approved by all agencies i.e. no dissent (any dissent would be noted in the report).
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,164 posts)The fact remains that that it was unanimously agreed by the intelligence community that Russia was involved in interfering with our election.
The Madman's the only one who refuses to admit as much.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Caliman73
(11,726 posts)The 4 agencies, FBI, CIA, NSA, and Office of National Intelligence have other agencies with other missions who operate under them is what I read.
flor-de-jasmim
(2,125 posts)nikibatts
(2,198 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)To trigger his followers.
samnsara
(17,615 posts)hughee99
(16,113 posts)Clapper was the Director of National Intelligence during the Obama Administration. I'm not sure why he'd have any incentive to lie here, but you can decide for yourself.
Atman
(31,464 posts)Trump is an idiot. That is what's most important.
Xolodno
(6,390 posts)...agencies knew as well.
It was as if, they weren't even trying to hide it. Then again, when you see the results, they didn't have to.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He dismisses these organizations like they are nothing.