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angrychair

(8,692 posts)
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 01:25 PM Jul 2017

Let's Clear up this Nonsense

The FBI, CIA and NSA all would have submitted their respective reports to the ODNI (people say "DNI" but this is more a reference to a specific person, as the ODNI -Office of the Director of National Intelligence - is actually where these reports would have gone). They (ODNI) would (should) have cross-referenced the findings against existing intel from other agencies (including FBI, CIA and NSA) and checked the findings, compiled the report and submitted it to the director's office (DNI) for approval and release as relevant.

ODNI is more of a research, clearinghouse and coordination center for intel services than an actual intel service in the context of the CIA or NSA. All the 16 (ODNI/DNI itself makes 17) answer to the director (DNI).

By being approved and "published" by DNI it is, in a defacto sense, being approved by all agencies i.e. no dissent (any dissent would be noted in the report).

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emulatorloo

(44,113 posts)
3. NYT: "Trump Misleads on Russian Meddling: Why 17 Intelligence Agencies Dont Need to Agree"
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 01:40 PM
Jul 2017

Trump Misleads on Russian Meddling: Why 17 Intelligence Agencies Don’t Need to Agree
By MATTHEW ROSENBERGJULY 6, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/06/us/politics/trump-russia-intelligence-agencies-cia-fbi-nsa.html

WASHINGTON — President Trump said on Thursday that only “three or four” of the United States’ 17 intelligence agencies had concluded that Russia interfered in the presidential election — a statement that while technically accurate, is misleading and suggests widespread dissent among American intelligence agencies when none has emerged.

The “three or four” agencies referred to by Mr. Trump are the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency, the F.B.I. and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, all of which determined that Russia interfered in the election. Their work was compiled into a report, and a declassified version was released on Jan. 6 by the director of national intelligence. It said that all four agencies had “high confidence” that Russian spies had tried to interfere in the election on the orders of President Vladimir V. Putin.

The reason the views of only those four intelligence agencies, not all 17, were included in the assessment is simple: They were the ones tracking and analyzing the Russian campaign. The rest were doing other work.

More at link

angrychair

(8,692 posts)
5. Yea, unfortunately even this is a little loose with details
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 01:54 PM
Jul 2017

It keeps using "DNI" when it would have actually gone to ODNI, a separate entity, with the mandate, for review and research, as "DNI" is a person, not an organization.

emulatorloo

(44,113 posts)
6. Thanks for the clarification
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 02:00 PM
Jul 2017

My main takeaway from that article is that Trump's once again muddying the waters, misrepresenting the truth, lying etc.

That's his standard operating procedure. And I'm confused that some DU'ers haven't figured that out yet and continue to give him the benefit of the doubt.

leftstreet

(36,106 posts)
4. That Prick told the world US intel is unreliable
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 01:43 PM
Jul 2017

WTF is his problem?

Trump and Putin are essentially under investigation - so how the fuck can they even be allowed to meet?

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