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babylonsister

(171,035 posts)
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 06:55 PM Jul 2017

Pierce: How Stupid Do They Think We Are?

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a56188/putin-trump-meeting/

How Stupid Do They Think We Are?

According to Rex Tillerson, Putin will try to make sure Putin stops meddling in our elections.
By Charles P. Pierce
Jul 7, 2017


Well, now we know what Rex Tillerson's job really is. He tells the administration's bedtime stories so we can all sleep peacefully because everything is under control, dammit. (Don't make him come upstairs again!) Friday's story was of the meeting between El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago and Vladimir Putin of the dead eyes and, according to Daddy Rex, everything went swimmingly. Pressed, old Vladimir was, on the subject of his having allegedly ratfcked the 2016 election on behalf of the president.

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So I guess we're going to work with the Russians to keep the Russians from ratfcking future elections. And the president* promises "further work" on getting a commitment from a dead-eyed career spook that he will not ratfck American elections any more? What are the odds of that "further work" ever happening? What are the odds that the president* even remembers this commitment by breakfast tomorrow?


Putin and Trump's meeting lasted about two hours and 15 minutes -- far longer than the planned 30-minute duration -- and Tillerson said the meeting was "very constructive" with both leaders possessing a "positive chemistry" and not "relegating" often to one another. First lady Melania Trump came into the meeting after the first-hour mark but "couldn't get through" to both leaders, Tillerson said. Both presidents exchanged views on the nature of U.S.-Russia relations and the future.


Well, I certainly am relieved to hear that. I'm glad that the president* didn't allow an attack on our democracy to harsh everyone's mellow. This is positively surreal, this is. The Russians know what they did and they're quite happy with the result. With this guy in the White House, they have no earthly reason not to do it again and again, both here and all over Europe. This isn't Cold War rhetoric. It's pure power politics of the kind in which Russia has engaged through czars and commissars.

This isn't Cold War rhetoric. It's pure power politics.

Vladimir Putin didn't rise in the KGB, and survive the collapse of the Soviet Union to become his country's presiding autocrat, by surrendering golden opportunities when they simply are handed to him. Now we are supposed to believe that, not only will Putin stop using tactics that worked so gloriously in 2016, but also that Putin will work with the president* to make sure Putin doesn't get away with it the next time.

I used to wonder how somebody could go broke running a casino. I don't wonder that anymore.
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Pierce: How Stupid Do They Think We Are? (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2017 OP
My thoughts exactly. TreasonousBastard Jul 2017 #1
VERY STUPID! Chasstev365 Jul 2017 #2
I think they don't necessarily think we're stupid renate Jul 2017 #3
That and how many are really paying attention? CrispyQ Jul 2017 #8
The whole meeting was "fake" from Syria to meddling in the USA's election Iliyah Jul 2017 #4
Agree not fooled Jul 2017 #13
K&R mcar Jul 2017 #5
fox agrees to work with farmer on improved henhouse security 0rganism Jul 2017 #6
I'm never going there but I can almost script what is being said at TrumpNews (FOX). Boomerproud Jul 2017 #7
One sure sign of someone being up to no good gtar100 Jul 2017 #9
They think some are stupid and they don't care what the rest think. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #10
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2017 #11
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2017 #12
Another spot-on essay from Charles Pierce Hekate Jul 2017 #14

renate

(13,776 posts)
3. I think they don't necessarily think we're stupid
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jul 2017

They simply don't care if everyone knows what they're doing, because what can we do about it? Nothing.

CrispyQ

(36,424 posts)
8. That and how many are really paying attention?
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 07:16 PM
Jul 2017

If the woman's or science march were this weekend, how many would show up? A friend of mine told me she didn't have time to call Cory Gardner about the GOP no-healthcare bill. This is a woman who took me to task for not going to the woman's march. My weekly phone calls do more than her marching for one day, but she doesn't want to admit that. Or take the time for it.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
4. The whole meeting was "fake" from Syria to meddling in the USA's election
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 07:00 PM
Jul 2017

As to what they truly discussed, now that's frightening.

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
13. Agree
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 12:25 PM
Jul 2017

although there's the possibility that Vlad accurately surmises that dump's a childish moron and hence won't discuss anything significant with him. Just give him a few blatant compliments to satisfy his ego and you've got control of him through the next election cycle.



0rganism

(23,930 posts)
6. fox agrees to work with farmer on improved henhouse security
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 07:02 PM
Jul 2017

close friends said the fox and the farmer had very positive chemistry

Boomerproud

(7,943 posts)
7. I'm never going there but I can almost script what is being said at TrumpNews (FOX).
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 07:04 PM
Jul 2017

"Home Run BABY!" "He saved Syria AND South Korea in one swoop!" "He's a GENIUS!"




The rest of the world knows better.

gtar100

(4,192 posts)
9. One sure sign of someone being up to no good
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 09:38 PM
Jul 2017

is that their solutions lean towards the absurd. This one leaned so far that it fell flat on its face. "How stupid do they think we are" is apropos indeed.

If only we could have the whole trump cabal march in one direction while we safely move in another. Following any one of these reprobates coattailing tRump is a certain recipe for disaster.

Solly Mack

(90,758 posts)
10. They think some are stupid and they don't care what the rest think.
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 09:55 PM
Jul 2017

They're blatant in action and intent, and they don't care because they think no one will do anything to stop them.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
11. K&R
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 10:00 PM
Jul 2017

They think some of us are stupid and for the rest, well they just don't care. Because they are getting away with everything. Nobody is standing in their way and that has to stop.

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