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Alhena

(3,030 posts)
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 10:50 PM Jul 2017

Politico: Andrew Cuomo Could Beat Trump ... If He Can Win Over the Left First

I really don't know much about this guy, not being from New York. But based on this article, he sounds like he should be encased in glass with a sign saying "break only if absolutely needed to beat Trump."

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/07/07/andrew-cuomo-2020-trump-215348

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NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
1. The obvious problem being ...
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 11:06 PM
Jul 2017

... that "the left" has to be won over, while the "right" will always vote for anyone with an (R) behind his name.

Jake Stern

(3,145 posts)
5. Shame on the left
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 11:30 PM
Jul 2017

for not walking lockstep behind someone who, at times, seems to relish stabbing them in the back.

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TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
6. I'm a New Yorker, and we "tolerate" him...
Fri Jul 7, 2017, 11:39 PM
Jul 2017

We're not overly thrilled with Schumer, either, but that's another story.

Aside from a certain "flexibility" in issues so we're rarely sure just where they stand, local Democratic committees and clubs out here just don't get any support at all from them.

We don't even bother to ask any more.

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
9. That ain't easy. He says and does all the right things, usually, but when push comes to shove...
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 10:52 AM
Jul 2017

he listens to a few core constituencies. Orthodox Jews, inner city bankers, some others... They are important, but a bit more important to him.

He's got millions in his campaign coffers, but if you're a struggling bunch of Democrats trying to gain traction, well, we got shit from him last year. And we lost a House seat.

We needed him a lot more than he needed us, so we got squat.

Must be a NY thing-- we don't hear from Gillibrand much, either, and we never heard from Hillary. Bummer being a sparsely populated outpost.



WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
7. Northern NYer here. IMO he's definitely electable. He's pretty left on some things...
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 08:49 AM
Jul 2017

and more moderate on others.

NY isn't as blue as some would think. In spite of finally giving upstate a bit of attention (most candidates tend to ignore up here until they need our votes), Cuomo really struggled with upstate and rural last time and listening to idiotic Trumpster types up here I think that's mostly because he pushed through some pretty strong gun regs after Sandy hook.

Here's some maps of how it broke down in NY...
http://www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2014/11/cuomo_wins_ny_but_loses_upstate.html

Here's info about his stances on issues...
http://www.ontheissues.org/Andrew_Cuomo.htm

He's not as left as his dad was on some issues nor as much as I'd like to see but realistically I think he'd do very well on a national level and if he won the Democratic primary I'd have no problem casting my vote for him.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
11. "Not awful" is the best way I can describe him
Sat Jul 8, 2017, 11:37 AM
Jul 2017

Keep in mind, I just moved here a few months ago, but I've been trying to get caught up on politics and Cuomo is clearly a mixed bag. I think the Excessior scholarship could help some people and I like that he stands up to Trump.

On the other hand, the MTA is still a mess and he insists on battling the mayor's office instead of working with him. Also, from what I've read, Cuomo has a penchant for big projects as opposed to doing the necessary and hard work of governing. Using the MTA as an example, he bragged about opening a new station, but the whole system needs a major overhaul. The problem is that isn't very flashy l Again, I could be wrong. Those are just my thoughts.

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