General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIvanka Sat in for Dad, but Nobody Noticed, Really.
She sat mute and did not actually participate. In that, she behaved exactly as her father, PINO Trump behaved. He also did not participate in G20 discussions but sat, bored and inattentive during addresses and discussions. He could not be bothered with dealing with the concerns of the world leaders in attendance.
So, nothing was lost nor gained by having his unqualified child sit in his seat. When people looked toward his seat, they saw one or the other non-participant in the business of the G20. PINO Trump attended so he could have an audience with the leaders of Russia and China for a brief period to learn their instructions. He did not go to enter into discussions and negotiations with the traditional allies of the United States.
It was a matter of no consequence to have his daughter hold his seat. It was an empty seat, no matter who occupied it.
Arkansas Granny
(31,514 posts)MiddleClass
(888 posts)And if they see the unqualified daughter instead of the unqualified father.
They think of course, stands to reason (or not at least it's consistent)
Maeve
(42,279 posts)In an unusual move Ivanka Trump briefly took her father Donald's seat at a summit of world leaders on Saturday.
The US president had stepped away for a meeting with the Indonesian leader during the G20 meeting.
Ms Trump is an adviser to her father, but a leader's absence is usually covered by high-ranking officials.
A BBC correspondent at the summit said he could recall no similar precedent. There has been widespread criticism on social media
QED
(2,747 posts)Why else would he meet with him?
Maeve
(42,279 posts)Tanuki
(14,918 posts)Indonesian business partner
https://www.google.com/amp/s/coconuts.co/jakarta/news/trumps-indonesian-business-partner-summoned-police-alleged-threats-public-prosecutor/amp/
"US President Donald Trumps Indonesian business partner has been questioned by police over alleged threats against a public prosecutor, officials said Friday.
Hary Tanoesoedibjo, a media and property mogul who is building two Trump Organization hotel projects, was summoned as a suspect Friday after an investigation was issued against him in June, a police spokesman said.
The 51-year-old business tycoon and politician has been named a suspect after police charged him with violating the electronic information and transaction law.
......
Tanoesoedibyo attended the US presidents inauguration in January, and described Trumps win as inspiring.
Tanoesoedibyo is now banned from traveling abroad for the next six months, a spokesman of the immigration office told AFP, and if found guilty could be jailed for four years maximum.".....(more)
Goonch
(3,607 posts)Phoenix61
(17,000 posts)Sad but true. I don't even know what to say anymore. It's hard to believe the repubs are so unconcerned about the fate of our nation.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)As you implied, it was so desired by Putin, and so delivered at the G20,
ladies and gentlemen we have a big, obnoxious, bombastic, empty vessel in the White House.
Donald Trump is an empty vessel for Paul Ryan
Donald Trump is an empty vessel for Mitch McConnell.
Donald Trump is an empty vessel for Mike Pence
Donald Trump is an empty vessel for the right wing Christians.
Donald Trump is an empty vessel for the right wing budget conservatives (fiscal)
Donald Trump is an empty vessel for the right wing corporate conservatives.
Donald Trump is an empty vessel for the Alt right Bannon people.
And most dangerously, he is an empty vessel for Putin.
When so many people consider you an empty vessel for their purposes, maybe you are
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)ananda
(28,858 posts)It's filled with hard rightwing, corporate hate and greed...
basically a lot of noxious gas that's poisoning all of us!
annabanana
(52,791 posts)D_Master81
(1,822 posts)Its stunning really how all of these groups from alex jones to the alt-right to the christian church has thrownthemselves all in on donald trump. Then i realized, he never said much beyond soundbites and "make america great again". So he became whatever these people wanted their president to be. A devoted christian man, an answer to the growing globalization, etc. The reason you cant reason with a hard core trump person is that they believe him to be what they want, not who he is.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)They ALL want to destroy the Federal Government.
And he's doing exactly that.
malaise
(268,924 posts)Laughing my two Corinthian ass cheeks off
MiddleClass
(888 posts)That's why he knows nothing about Trumpcare, because it's Paul Ryan's wet dream
tax cuts for the rich, disguised as healthcare for the working class.
The dismantling of a federal entitlement program, and give rich people tax cuts.
All before they actually admit to tax reform.
Do whatever you want in the name of Donald Trump, while he's busy making America great again
dembotoz
(16,799 posts)onethatcares
(16,166 posts)how much mark up would be on that?
oh, that's right. The pukes are in charge so the national debt and the federal deficit don't mean shit.
logosoco
(3,208 posts)That seems to be the important thing in the eyes of repubs.
malaise
(268,924 posts)SweetieD
(1,660 posts)that it wasn't as if Trump was participating in the conference or listening to these leaders. He probably can't remember one thing anyone said and if he did remember I doubt he cared. Probably bored by it all.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Either they were speaking in, you know, weird foreign languages or using really big words The Fake Donald doesn't know. So he just shut his brain down and nodded or nodded off.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)What are we going to do about it? Not a damn thing.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Others had cabinet people sit in for them from time to time. Ivanka's sorta like that, and she's Daddy's Little Girl, to boot. PINO Trump depends on her to make sure he doesn't go out with his fly open and stuff like that. She's a crucial part of his administration, right?
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)We can try to influence her to influence him.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)who stands by her father as he dismantles our nation. No, I don't think so.
samnsara
(17,616 posts).....shes in her own little princess world
hatrack
(59,583 posts)And she's in it for all the money, favors, contracts and TV time she can grift her way into.
If she was standing on the sidewalk with her knockoff designer dress on fire, I wouldn't walk across the street to piss on her - or any member of that rotten family, with the exception of Barron.
JI7
(89,247 posts)stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,450 posts)aquamarina
(1,865 posts)Can you imagine, can you just imagine the reaction if Chelsea Clinton (who by the way is eminently more qualified than Ivanka in just about everything) sat in for her mother. Critics would be be losing their minds. But I forget, IOKIYAR.
left-of-center2012
(34,195 posts)Ivanka Trump has broken with protocol and briefly taken her father US President Donald Trump's seat at the G20 leaders' summit in Hamburg.
Absences at the G20 are usually covered by high-ranking state officials.
The president has been criticised for crude remarks he has made about women over the years, including a recent tweet focusing on a television news host's appearance.
Mr Trump's senior staff is dominated by men.
Ms Trump has faced sustained criticism from opponents of her father who'd hoped she would be able to push him to adopt more moderate policies.
Many have labelled her "complicit" in his agenda.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-07-09/ivanka-replaces-donald-trump-at-g20-leaders27-table/8691106
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)Why talk to Trump.
underpants
(182,767 posts)Love it.
That's pretty much wha she does - just sit there and have the money fall around her.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)Well said.
"It was an empty seat, no matter who occupied it."
CatMor
(6,212 posts)he is only interested in what he has to say, nothing else matters. He is one of those people who just want you to hurry up and quit talking because he isn't listening anyway and wants to start talking again. Ivanka seems to be as empty headed as Daddy.
malaise
(268,924 posts)disrespect - trust me.
MineralMan
(146,286 posts)AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Catmusicfan
(816 posts)many of your post: A Great deal was harmed has been done. America's dignity and respect by the other countries have been damage. We all Thought W was the lowest we could get on the world stage but today we have gone the lowest. At least for all his flaws and stupidity He had respect for the office of the President and it's position of the on the world stage. Yes, he may have had a junior highish understanding but he knew it was important. Looking back on it now I would take his Frat Boy shaking of Merkel.
What Trump has done was shown his true disregard to the importance of the Office of the President of the United States. He showed no respect or understanding of the history of the United States. He is treating that office and this country like a fucking company of his and farming out duties like a disinterested child 5 minutes after getting the toy he wanted for Christmas.
Yesterday he cow-towed to Putin showing more respect to that ---(I will hold my tongue for fear of getting kicked off the board.) than the bastard deserve. Now today not only does he disrespect our country and it's history but showed disrespect to our allies but his daughter showed how little she thinks of our constitution by sitting in place of the President. This would be like Theresa May sitting on Queen Elizabeth's throne ( sorry to those who may not have respect or like the royal family and it's history and what it stands for.--I think it was a beautiful tradition..yes, the family may fall short at times but they are human...and well humans are flawed.)
But if truth be told in our country The President is equalivant to a monarch and Trump and his family are pissing on it with the help of the republicans who have decided to become an authoritian party and have started a slow Coup of this country.
What I am babbling is that This is a BIG deal.
Demtexan
(1,588 posts)This meeting made him of no importance to the world.
The other world leaders will just go about their business.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)On AMJoy this morning, Jonathan Capehart was sitting in for Joy Reid and brought up the fact that since Trump doesn't like to read his briefing documents, his staff provided tweet-sized notes that he could use to prepare himself for the meetings and discussion groups. (This was reported in the LA Times article below.) How STUPID and LAZY does one have to be that he cannot digest any information exceeding 140 characters at any one time?
So that's why the American president (small "p" on purpose, since dumbass doesn't deserve the respect that goes along with the office) sat through these meetings with a dumbass expression on his face since he didn't have anything intelligent to contribute. He probably didn't even know what G-20 meant.
I worry a little about this meeting because Putin is going to walk into the room very well prepared, and Im not certain Trump will come into that room prepared, said Steven Pifer, a former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine and career diplomat who now is a senior foreign policy fellow at the Brookings Institution think tank in Washington. Should Trump prove unprepared, that wont be for lack of effort on the Americans side.
Leading up to his first face-to-face meeting with Putin, U.S. intelligence officials have prepared a detailed psychological profile of the long-serving Russian strongman, a former KGB officer who spent decades recruiting spies for the Soviet Union and mastered the art of bending people to his will.
The profile, according to two U.S. officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the preparations, is part of a thick binder prepared for Trump. The president often doesnt read the usual briefing books and relies on in-person briefings, the officials said, so aides also have written a list of tweet-length sentences that summarize the main points Trump could bring up with Putin. ..."
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-fg-trump-putin-20170704-story.html