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BREAKING: Trumps Son Met With Russian Lawyer After Being Promised Damaging Information on Clinton (Original Post) kpete Jul 2017 OP
Ugh Iliyah Jul 2017 #1
It's going to be an interesting week. N/T spinbaby Jul 2017 #2
Damn! And I am spending the next two weeks with Auntie Bush Jul 2017 #12
I'm thinking the same thing. These stories broke on the weekend MelissaB Jul 2017 #13
Probably reaction, by some people in the know, to Republican tRump's kowtowing to Putin. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #26
And the tweets will be just as wacky. Glimmer of Hope Jul 2017 #48
Gee Warren DeMontague Jul 2017 #3
Indeed it does. kentuck Jul 2017 #5
NOPE IT NEVER IS retrowire Jul 2017 #14
It sure does. Time to buckle up... AgadorSparticus Jul 2017 #25
Deny....Deflect.. HipChick Jul 2017 #4
Big K&R! MelissaB Jul 2017 #6
So much for the Turbineguy Jul 2017 #7
Now why Donald Jr. want this information about Clinton. Demtexan Jul 2017 #8
Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason. Julian Englis Jul 2017 #9
Trump gang, Republicans don't dare; too complicit. Their RWAFs follow their lead; they believe RWAs. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #28
Question: Who broke the law at this meeting, and what law did they break? (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2017 #10
I don't know what laws the meeting would have broken dsc Jul 2017 #35
Adoptions, my ass dalton99a Jul 2017 #11
A bunch of liars nt onlyadream Jul 2017 #18
Such total obvious B.S. ALSO, Don Jr already said they never discussed foreign policy flibbitygiblets Jul 2017 #19
Manafort was concerned canetoad Jul 2017 #20
Cover story is Am adopting Russ babies. Putin stopped it after US put sanctions cause of Ukraine. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #36
as if repukes give a fuck about adoptions Skittles Jul 2017 #50
Too many brown orphans in USA for their snowflake tastes. They'd out their racism by refusing offers Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #52
Collusion SweetieD Jul 2017 #15
From the NY Times too. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #16
LOCK THEM UP. ALL of them. NRaleighLiberal Jul 2017 #17
+1,000 malaise Jul 2017 #32
Time for Mueller's bunch to put Dump Jr's private parts in a vise and squeeze. roamer65 Jul 2017 #21
Better yet . . . OldRedneck Jul 2017 #31
you should take that down IMO mucifer Jul 2017 #54
the heritage foundation and breitbart are already preparing at least 5 different excuses each certainot Jul 2017 #22
Yet another perfect time to post this great movie clip: winstars Jul 2017 #23
Yep. Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #33
WOW Gothmog Jul 2017 #24
Wait, it's Friday's news dump, that week flew by, Oh wait MiddleClass Jul 2017 #27
It's time . . . OldRedneck Jul 2017 #29
Boom! Kingofalldems Jul 2017 #30
Well that one BumRushDaShow Jul 2017 #37
Collusion has been proven Johnny2X2X Jul 2017 #34
Sure, but this is just one bit of collusion. There was more, we can be sure, probably much more. .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #38
Level Johnny2X2X Jul 2017 #44
Sharing voter profiles probably through Mercer's Cambridge Analytica which collected them. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2017 #45
So, ALL THREE OF THEM "forgot" about this meeting NastyRiffraff Jul 2017 #39
"I've never even met Natalia! And our meeting was very very short. Anyway, she didn't say struggle4progress Jul 2017 #40
Trump Jr. statement Saturday (to New York Times and CNN): janx Jul 2017 #41
K&R mvd Jul 2017 #42
Yep this is the tip of the iceberg I'm guessing. SweetieD Jul 2017 #46
God Damn! Mr. Evil Jul 2017 #43
Proof that the Trump campaign was seeking Putin's help! .99center Jul 2017 #47
WELL ISN'T THAT SPECIAL Skittles Jul 2017 #49
Does Donny Jr. mgardener Jul 2017 #51
Sleazeball repube traitors against America Achilleaze Jul 2017 #53

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
12. Damn! And I am spending the next two weeks with
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:14 PM
Jul 2017

My sister...who is a Republlican and they hardly ever watch the news.😢 At least my B-in-L is a
Democrat. They don't discuss politics often so I'll miss a lot of good politics.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
26. Probably reaction, by some people in the know, to Republican tRump's kowtowing to Putin.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jul 2017

Republican President Trump accepted Putin's denials and did not get anything substantive from him on the issue. Quite the opposite. He agreed to setting up a cyber security channel with the Russians.

They met Friday. That gives Saturday for the source(s) of this article to give the go-ahead or fill the last points needed by NYT to satisfy their journalistic criteria. Articles are often in development for a few days or weeks before they are published.

That would explain the timing of this information.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
14. NOPE IT NEVER IS
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:16 PM
Jul 2017

EVEN THAT TIME ON LIVE FUCKIN' TV WHEN HE ASKED THE RUSSIANS TO HELP HIM WITH HILLARY.

All I can do is laugh at the absurdity of this world now.

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
9. Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:11 PM
Jul 2017

"Treason doth never prosper, what's the reason? For if it prosper, none dare call it Treason." John Harington

dsc

(52,155 posts)
35. I don't know what laws the meeting would have broken
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jul 2017

but Kushner lied both to the Senate and to the rest of the government while getting his security clearance. Both of those are illegal.

flibbitygiblets

(7,220 posts)
19. Such total obvious B.S. ALSO, Don Jr already said they never discussed foreign policy
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:26 PM
Jul 2017

So unless the three of those men where there to adopt Russian babies themselves, they were TALKING ABOUT FOREIGN POLICY.
Assuming one buys this "adoption" crap.

Which is it, liar? Or would you like to try a third answer?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
36. Cover story is Am adopting Russ babies. Putin stopped it after US put sanctions cause of Ukraine.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:59 PM
Jul 2017

So even the cover story is the candidate meddling in foreign policy. On the face of it, Republican Trump gang was undoubtedly asking for a quid pro quo: lift sanctions after Putin lifts adoption ban. So the cover story is a crime on par with Nixon-Kissinger meddling in Paris Vietnam peace talks October 1968 and Reagan dealing arms to Iran for hostages Oct 1980.

But of course the subtext, as we are knowing more and more, was that Republican President Trump would collude with the Russians to receive support & dirt from their hackers & bots. The payback would be lifting sanctions. The smoke & mirrors would be Putin lifting the adoption ban so that it would seem as if lifting sanctions was only tied to the adoption ban.

excerpts:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Peace_Accords#Claimed_sabotage_of_negotiations_by_Nixon_campaign

Bryce Harlow, a former White House staff member in the Eisenhower administration, claimed to have "a double agent working in the White House....I kept Nixon informed." Harlow and Henry Kissinger (who was friendly with both campaigns and guaranteed a job in either a Humphrey or Nixon administration in the upcoming election) separately predicted Johnson's "bombing halt". Democratic senator George Smathers informed President Johnson that "the word is out that we are making an effort to throw the election to Humphrey. Nixon has been told of it".[3]

According to presidential historian Robert Dallek, Kissinger's advice "rested not on special knowledge of decision making at the White House but on an astute analyst's insight into what was happening." CIA intelligence analyst William Bundy stated that Kissinger obtained "no useful inside information" from his trip to Paris, and "almost any experienced Hanoi watcher might have come to the same conclusion". While Kissinger may have "hinted that his advice was based on contacts with the Paris delegation," this sort of "self-promotion...is at worst a minor and not uncommon practice, quite different from getting and reporting real secrets."[3]

Nixon asked the prominent Asian-American politician Anna Chennault to be his "channel to Mr. Thieu"; Chennault agreed and periodically reported to John Mitchell that Thieu had no intention of attending a peace conference. On November 2, Chennault informed the South Vietnamese ambassador: "I have just heard from my boss in Albuquerque who says his boss [Nixon] is going to win. And you tell your boss [Thieu] to hold on a while longer."[4] In response, President Johnson ordered the wire-tapping of members of the Nixon campaign.[5][6] Dallek wrote that Nixon's efforts "probably made no difference" because Thieu was unwilling to attend the talks and there was little chance of an agreement being reached before the election; however, his use of information provided by Harlow and Kissinger was morally questionable, and vice president Hubert Humphrey's decision not to make Nixon's actions public was "an uncommon act of political decency."[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Surprise_conspiracy_theory

The allegations that the Reagan team subverted the U.S. government's attempt to resolve the hostage crisis were generally regarded as an unsupported conspiracy theory until the Iran-Contra affair was exposed in 1986, which showed that the U.S. government had made a secret deal with the Iranian government in 1985 to covertly supply Iran with arms, with the funds being used to support the Nicaraguan Contras. Investigations of the Iran-Contra affair, in which the Central Intelligence Agency played a central role, made the 1980 October Surprise allegations, in which Iran and the CIA also figured, seem less implausible, leading to more serious investigation of the claims.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
21. Time for Mueller's bunch to put Dump Jr's private parts in a vise and squeeze.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:34 PM
Jul 2017

Make him rat Daddy out.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
22. the heritage foundation and breitbart are already preparing at least 5 different excuses each
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:36 PM
Jul 2017

to send out to those 1200 radio stations

winstars

(4,219 posts)
23. Yet another perfect time to post this great movie clip:
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:38 PM
Jul 2017

They are a crime family. But a really bad one.

Think about the whole tRump "family" thing.

They have all watched The Godfather, Goodfellas, Raging Bull and other great works of art like many of us here.

But they seemed to learn all the WRONG things from these films, despite trying to act and dress the part; to some they are all fake tough guys and girls.

Lets see them all learn how to cook while in Federal prison!!!

I have seen it before and these current clowns are more "The Gang That Could't Shoot Straight"


Unless they manage to get everybody killed first...



MiddleClass

(888 posts)
27. Wait, it's Friday's news dump, that week flew by, Oh wait
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 05:42 PM
Jul 2017

Going to be a very good week. By the looks of it

Johnny2X2X

(19,015 posts)
44. Level
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:14 PM
Jul 2017

The level of collusion is all that needs to be proven now.

The Trump campaign almost assuredly shared their voter profile info with the Russians so they could target individuals for fake stories. I have no doubt this will be proven.

All of that is obvious. How they tried to hack voter machines with the Russians will be next up. And I think they probably succeeded in stealing votes from these hacks.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
39. So, ALL THREE OF THEM "forgot" about this meeting
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:06 PM
Jul 2017

None of them disclosed it, as required. Poor Jared took all those calls from EVERYBODY IMAGINABLE so how could the lad be expected to remember a meeting with a known Russian operative, who, BTW, just happened to claim to have "damaging information" on Hillary Clinton DURING THE CAMPAIGN? And Junior now claims that only after "pleasantries were exchanged" Ms. Veselnitskaya casually said she had that damaging information, which, according to Junior, made "no sense."

How stupid does he think we all are?

Oh, and from the same NYT article, there's this little gem re the Magnitsky Act that Veselnitskaya was trying to fight:

(beg quote)"An infuriated Mr. Putin has called the law an “outrageous act,” and, in addition to banning American adoptions, he compiled what became known as an “anti-Magnitsky” blacklist of United States citizens.

Among those blacklisted was Preet Bharara, then the United States attorney in Manhattan, who led notable convictions of Russian arms and drug dealers. Mr. Bharara was abruptly fired in March, after previously being asked to stay on by President Trump.&quot end quote)

So THAT mystery is now solved. Putin wanted Bharara gone. Donnie said "no problem, Vlad." Most likely the abrupt firing of all the U.S. attorneys was a cover for Mr. Bhara's firing.

struggle4progress

(118,270 posts)
40. "I've never even met Natalia! And our meeting was very very short. Anyway, she didn't say
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:06 PM
Jul 2017

anything interesting, so I left after an hour or two. Besides, as my father has already said, she wasn't that attractive."

janx

(24,128 posts)
41. Trump Jr. statement Saturday (to New York Times and CNN):
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:07 PM
Jul 2017

In his statement, Donald Trump Jr. said: “It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow up.”

He added: “I was asked to attend the meeting by an acquaintance, but was not told the name of the person I would be meeting with beforehand.”


Trump Jr. statement Sunday (to New York Times):

In a statement on Sunday, Donald Trump Jr. said he had met with the Russian lawyer at the request of an acquaintance. “After pleasantries were exchanged,” he said, “the woman stated that she had information that individuals connected to Russia were funding the Democratic National Committee and supporting Ms. Clinton. Her statements were vague, ambiguous and made no sense. No details or supporting information was provided or even offered. It quickly became clear that she had no meaningful information.”


WHAT CHANGED? Why did he change his statement? Lawyer?

Mr. Evil

(2,833 posts)
43. God Damn!
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
Jul 2017

Please hurry up and arrest these treasonous, traitorous motherfuckers already! What in the ever-loving-fuck are you waiting for?! There's already probably a mountain of fucking evidence against all of them going back 30 years categorizing dozens of illegal activities. Probably hundreds! Arrest them now!!!

mgardener

(1,814 posts)
51. Does Donny Jr.
Sun Jul 9, 2017, 07:19 PM
Jul 2017

Look good in orange?

Theses people are despicable. And the Republicans that support this family are no better.

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