Don Jr admitted seeking dirt on HRC because truth was even WORSE. What could be worse? THIS:

[pnwmom]

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What if, at the Trump Tower meeting with the Kremlin/Prevezon attorney, Natalia Veselnitskaya, they were discussing FIXING THE $230 MILLION RUSSIAN MONEY-LAUNDERING CASE AGAINST PREVEZON? In exchange for doing some little favors for DT.

That is, what if Jr. promised that his dad would go easy on Prevezon if he was elected with Russian help?

That would be worse. And there is circumstantial EVIDENCE.

1) Natalia Veselnitskaya, the Kremlin attorney Don Jr. met with in the Tower, ALSO REPRESENTS PREVEZON.

2) Three days after the meeting, Julian Assange announced he'd be publishing more Hillary emails -- and we know now where he got them.

3) Among the first things DT did after taking office was FIRE PREET BHARARA, the US attorney who was prosecuting the money-laundering case against Prevezon.

4) The Prevezon case, which had been years in the making (and was supposed to feature a star witness who survived being thrown out of a 4th floor window) was UNEXPECTEDLY SETTLED in May -- for a surprisingly low amount and in a way that didn't require the admission of guilt.

Why was such a strong case settled on such favorable terms to Prevezon? Did Trump's Justice Dept, headed by Jeff Sessions, have anything to do with this?

Is that what Jr. was discussing in his meeting with Prevezon's attorney? Is it likely that Prevezon's dedicated attorney would NOT have brought up the subject of her client's upcoming trial in a special, private meeting with the son of the GOP nominee?

Knowing that Veselnitskaya represented Prevezon, I googled for links between Prevezon and DT, and found this interesting piece from May, about the surprising settlement the government reached with Prevezon. The author added an update yesterday. I bet we'll be hearing a lot more from him.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/us-settlement-prevezon-case-raises-more-questions-trump-frydenborg

Published on May 16, 2017

By Brian Frydenborg, International Affairs/Development/Public Policy Professional, Freelance Writer, Former Consultant USAID Jordan ROLP

UPDATE July 8th: The New York Times is reporting that on June 9th, 2016, Paul Manafort, Jared Kushner, and Donald Trump Jr. met a lawyer for Prevezon-head Denis Katsyv named Natalia Veselnitskaya, an anti-Magnitsky Act crusader and the wife of a close colleague of her client’s father, in Trump Tower, a meeting arranged by Donald Jr.

AMMAN — THE TRIAL was set to begin in three days, a mammoth trial a decade in the making, one of international intrigue, massive money laundering, the biggest tax fraud in Russian history, posh Manhattan real estate, powerful Russians with connections to Russian President Vladimir Putin, and the murder two people and attempted murder a third, each victim gathering evidence against the Russians. But, instead, the Acting U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York submitted a letter on May 12th, 2017, to the presiding judge, William H. Pauley, III, stating that the government had reached a settlement with the defendants, after his predecessor, Preet Bharara, had spent three-and-a-half years building his case.

SNIP

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And from last October:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/us-prosecutors-are-out-to-crack-russias-crooked-money-machine

U.S. federal prosecutors just won’t let go of their three-year-old criminal action against alleged beneficiaries of stolen and laundered Russian taxpayer money.

It was launched as part of what’s known as the Magnitsky Affair, a contentious story of scandal, cover-ups and smear campaigns that dates back more than a decade. Over the years, the Kremlin has used every tool it can, including the fate of Russian orphans who might be adopted by Americans, as it tries to thwart calls for justice from the U.S. Congress and the administration.

So far, the Kremlin has failed. (Who knows what will happen if there’s a Trump presidency?)

[gordianot]

1. Of course Donald Trump is all "Let's make a deal".

Just keep the damned golf courses open and the cash flowing.

[pnwmom]

3. Yup. nt

[Achilleaze]

2. republican traitors against America

should be locked up

[Blue_Roses]

4. Is this the case where the witness was thrown out the window

but, barely survived? I haven't read this link yet, but will bookmark it for later.

Good grief ...

[pnwmom]

5. Yes. And he was set to testify as the STAR WITNESS if the case hadn't been settled.

From the link in the OP:

Had he not been fired by Trump, Bharara would now be leading this this case, too, and almost exactly two months from the day he was fired, the U.S. government, with his acting replacement acting in his stead, settled with a whimper a case stretching back a decade. It was a case U.S. had been building for close to four years and one in which one key lawyer working against Russian interests, Sergei Magnitsky, was murdered, and in which another lawyer working against the Kremlin on behalf of Magnitsky’s family, NIKOLAI GOROKHOV, was thrown out of his fourth-story Moscow apartment window on March 21st of this year, just one day before a major Russian court appearance concerning the same crimes (such “accidents” are not uncommon with Putin critics); Gorokhov suffered severe head injuries and is apparently still hospitalized; he had provided key evidence for Bharara's prosecution team and was set to be a star witness in the trial that was to start today, May 15th. Unsurprisingly, Bharara and his team were actually very concerned that something exactly like this would happen to Gorokhov and submitted a formal letter expressing that concern to the presiding judge back in October 2015.

[Blue_Roses]

6. ...

My head feels like it's gonna explode with all this...

[pnwmom]

8. You're doing well, actually. You remembered the witness getting thrown from the window.

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I added that detail to the OP because it might refresh a lot of memories about which company Prevezon is.

And isn't it curious that Junior would meet with Prevezon's attorney months before Preet Bahara was fired?

[Blue_Roses]

10. Wow. It's all coming together

isn't it? Big chunks of pieces just tie the little strands together. I cannot imagine what Mueller and his team think of this. I would love to be a fly on that wall. And still so much not known or verified, but with the big pieces falling into place, it's only a matter of time.

[pangaia]

16. No wonder it's taking Mueller et al so damn long..

It's a never ending web of corruption.

[pnwmom]

36. Yes, and it can seem overwhelming. But that's why Mueller has hired 15 top prosecutors

and he's still hiring.

[dixiegrrrrl]

64. I had thought that they were still lying because they had taken the Clinton info.

But your point of view makes a lot of sense.

Preet get fired March 11, tho, prior to meeting.

[pnwmom]

67. Their meeting was in June 2016, a year ago. Preet was fired after DT's election. nt

[dixiegrrrrl]

71. Oh, of course..I forget to add a year...duh. n/t

[onit2day]

35. Should be on every news channel 24/7

Economic treason. Nothing about this regime can be trusted

[femmedem]

7. Good memory! Here's an article on it:

"New York (CNN)A Russian lawyer investigating an alleged $230 million money-laundering scheme nearly died in March after he fell from his fourth floor apartment in Moscow.

It's unclear what caused the fall, but more than a year earlier, American prosecutors had feared that someone would try to "threaten or harm" that man, Nikolai Gorokhov, according to a recently unsealed federal court document.

American investigators are preparing for a trial in May that will examine how stolen Russian cash allegedly made its way into New York City real estate, and Gorokhov, 53, was to be a witness.

The court document shows that US investigators had "strong concerns that... individuals in Russia could attempt to threaten or harm Mr. Gorokhov and his family in an effort to prevent Mr. Gorokhov from testifying at trial."

More: http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/26/world/prevezon-witness-lawyer-gorokhov/index.html

[pnwmom]

9. Thanks, femmedem!

[chimpymustgo]

11. Helluva thread. Please get this out on Twitter!

Thanks to the DU gumshoes!!

[FakeNoose]

12. How was this a money-laundering scheme?

I can see how this is a quid pro quo in settling the case for almost nothing.
But I don't get what the Russians had at stake?

Were they investors in the pharmaceutical company, and were they liable for the torts damages?
There must be more to this story.

[pnwmom]

20. How was the Prevezon case a money-laundering scheme?

From the link in the OP:

Enter Russian Denis Katsyv, the essential head of a Cyprus-based apparent real estate company Prevezon Holdings, which was one of the beneficiaries of the $230 million Russian tax scheme. In charges filed by Preet Bharara in a lengthy complaint submitted in September, 2013 (and in the complaints’ two amendments in November, 2014, and October of 2015), the U.S. affirmed Magnitsky’s findings and accused Prevezon of receiving through a convoluted series of transactions involving shell companies at least (roughly) $2 million (possibly more) of the $230 million of Russian scam money, some of which Prevezon then laundered through the purchase of luxury Manhattan real estate properties, partly because, as I’ve described before, America has famously lax regulations on money laundering through real estate. Among those who would end up helping Bharara with his case against Prevezon’s money laundering was Bill Browder.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

13. So what did Trump et al have to do with Prevezon? Are we saying they must have been

involved in the money laundering?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

14. from cnn

The conspirators allegedly laundered the illicit cash through shell companies, luxury cars, real estate around the world, and international bank accounts.

But without a trial, the illicit money trail remains unproven to the public.

[WinkyDink]

18. "Real estate around the world"---golf courses, hotels, casinos, stores,.....

[pnwmom]

22. Prevezon was money-laundering through real estate purchases, which could

have involved DT properties.

BUT EVEN IF IT DIDN'T, Prevezon's lawyer could have struck a deal with DT: "We'll give you dirt on Hillary and help you win if you fix this nasty little case we have. So unfair. Putin would really appreciate it if you could fix this little problem for us. IF you are elected."

[Bengus81]

15. Ohh..but,but it was ONLY about adopting poor little Russian children........

Jr. and Kushner trying to keep their stories straight,oh and of COURSE Jr. never said a WORD about this meeting with Russians to collect DIRT on Hillary Clinton to his father.

Ok,nothing to see here..........

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Wonder if they planned this before - for everytime they DID meet with Russians, have a

"back up" reason.

[WinkyDink]

19. SEND THIS TO RACHEL!

[AwakeAtLast]

68. That was going to be my response!

[writes3000]

21. This is seriously HUGE! Fantastic find, pnwmom! Holy, holy shit!

[BSdetect]

23. Oh dear, another crime to deal with. And he's still POTUS today?

[SweetieD]

24. Very interesting angle. I'm curious to know if this Russian woman had any other

meetings with campaign staff or with sessions.

Don jr said he didn't meet with her after but he lied about meeting her in the first place. It is possible that others in the campaign met with her.

[Volaris]

61. Is it possible that any of that laundered Russian taxpayer money

Found its way into McConnells Senate SuperPac?
I fucking bet it did, too.

[writes3000]

25. Kick, kick, KICK!!! This must be what Mueller's team is working on! Remember his new hire!

Pwnmom, I think you've hit the jackpot.

[pnwmom]

26. Thanks, writes3000.

The more I think about this, the more likely it seems. Prevezon was Natalia's biggest case. Why should she pass up an opportunity to discuss it with the President's son? We're supposed to believe she came to talk about Russian orphans?

And then Assange making his announcement about the new Hillary leak three days later . . .

[writes3000]

29. Right! Her biggest case was about the Magnitsky act! Putin retaliated by stopping Russian adoptions.

She wasn't there trying to get Russian adoptions going again. Don Jr is lying his ass off. She was there trying to get her corrupt Russian company off the hook. And she was ready to bribe the Trumps to get it done.

And this past May, when the case was settled, the Trumps paid her off!

It's as clear as day.

[Blue_Roses]

74. Who is the new hire?

Not sure I heard it. How many has he hired now? I'm guessing that one wouldn't hire all these top-notch attorneys, only to later say, "Nothing yo see. Move along".

[Guilded Lilly]

27. Jaysus. The deceit and treachery runs deeper than any could

Guess. But you knew it was there.

This is a battle we MUST win.

[Botany]

28. It was a coup and we had treason .... money laundering is a Trump family business.

Lock 'em all up.


http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal

[LessAspin]

30. Raw Story & Rude Pundit

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[pnwmom]

31. Thanks, LessAspin. And welcome to DU! n/t

[LessAspin]

33. You're welcome.

Bringing it back more to the topic...

Link to tweet

[niyad]

32. k and r and bookmarking. only so much horror I can process this morning.

[spanone]

34. K&R...

[BadgerMom]

37. Kick

[HenryWallace]

38. What if Spartacus had a Piper Cub?

[VOX]

49. I am Spartacus. And I specifically requested a North American Aviation P-51 Mustang.

[rzemanfl]

52. No, I am Spartacus and I asked for an aircraft carrier battle group. n/t

[VOX]

55. "I am so not Spartacus." -- Billy Crystal

[ThoughtCriminal]

69. He is Sparticus!

Can I go now?

[rzemanfl]

58. Do you think you could land a P-51 on a Roman road? n/t

[More_Cowbell]

39. Sometimes a low settlement means a cooperating witness

Maybe this time, too? Maybe someone's turning on the Trumps.

[pnwmom]

40. That's what I was hoping for. Now I'm not so sure. Maybe it means the govt. caved. n/t

[Volaris]

62. Not if trump was hiring the replacement prosecutor.

I would buy that if Preet hadn't been fired BEFORE the deal was cut. Trump got elected, they get to keep cleaning Russian mob money for Putin. That was the quid pro quo sure as hell.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

41. pwnmom, you are the best!

You're so well informed, and you've got links to the all-important *context*; the past history leading up to the present. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

I must applaud you!

[pnwmom]

45. Aw, you've got me blushing.

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Thanks, BlancheSplanchnik.

I guess this was worth some insomnia last night. I woke up after a few hours and suddenly realized that if the Prevezon lawyer was in a private conversation with the nominee's son, OF COURSE the lawyer might want to talk about her biggest NY case . . . .

[BlancheSplanchnik]

50. enjoy your blushosityness!

Well earned!

Lock them up!!

[DoctorJoJo]

42. Every American Should Read This in Totality

And some entity, like 60 Minutes, should do a fully fleshed out piece on it.

JoJo

[Lucinda]

43. KNR

[R B Garr]

44. "because truth was worse". Good heavens, how utterly

stupid of a statement. Yeah buddy. And these are the idiots insulting our intelligence agencies.

[CozyMystery]

46. Links about settlement re Prevezon Holdings

http://www.businessinsider.com/us-v-prevezon-case-settlement-russia-money-laundering-2017-5

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/13/world/prevezon-settlement/index.html

https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/acting-manhattan-us-attorney-announces-59-million-settlement-civil-money-laundering-and

[pnwmom]

47. Thanks, CozyMystery!

[sarcasmo]

48. Trump will go after Mueller hard this week and fire him by the end of the month.

[bettyellen]

51. Wow. I bet you're right!

[MiddleClass]

53. Maybe, just maybe, this is what the special prosecutor is looking into

Rachel was mentioned something about Jeff sessions,

I was thinking how can you get in criminal jeopardy so fast,

if you put your finger on the scales of justice in the years old corruption investigation that is settled overnight. Something smells in Denmark.

All the loose ends are starting to fit together.

I hope the picture looks kind of like my speculation

[bettyellen]

54. Hey PNW- FYI: when you hit retweet you get 22 characters over the limit !

So I edited out some words, because I also wanted to tag other interested people. Apologies for shortening your title, but it had to be done!

[pnwmom]

57. Where can I find it?

[bettyellen]

59. I shortened it to this:

‪Don Jr admitted seeking dirt on HRC because truth was even WORSE. MAYBE THIS? https://demu.gr/10029306699 ‬

Will PM you my Twitter name? I think we might be friends there too.

[VOX]

56. The truth is always worse for the Trump Gang. Everything the do/say is dishonest..

And much of it is illegal and immoral, if those qualities are still considered liabilities in this country.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

60. Interesting.

And the best part of firing PB and the other US attorneys when he did was that- on the surface- it appeared to "innocuous" and just "something that every new Admin does"

[UTUSN]

63. R#157 & K

[LessAspin]

65. Here's a Who's Who...

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[pnwmom]

72. Great info! Thanks! n/t

[McCamy Taylor]

66. So now the acting A G gets grilled by Mueller....

Note: organized criminals are not smart or clever. They are dumb fucks.

[True_Blue]

70. K&R

Back to the top. Thank you for this informative post!

[Dopers_Greed]

73. An absolutely crazy read

But I have no doubt it's true. Mueller is our best shot at saving the world from these sick fucks.

[Loge23]

75. This should be the lead story on all MSM

This information about the Veselnitkaya/Prevezon/Bharara link should be THE STORY. This is the heart of the matter and points to serious and significant crime.

[Loge23]

76. Big props to the OP!

This story is exploding now - may be the big blast of the entire scandal.

[pnwmom]

77. Thank you, Loge23! I am very glad that the MSM was paying attention, too. n/t