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(53,866 posts)we were told this by people both on the left and right.
turns out they were wrong. as per usual.
riversedge
(70,093 posts)BainsBane
(53,016 posts)from being equally resolute about subsequent prognostications.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)If Sanders had pulled off a miracle, was Russia going to suddenly stop supporting Trump and never do anything to hack into Sanders' people's emails and servers? I'm sure there are people exchanging emails on his staff that said nasty things about Clinton...
Heck, you don't even need to hack into his emails. Just have a 10 second ad of him agreeing that he'll raise everybody's taxes and he'd have lost every state Clinton lost, plus possibly VA, CO, NV and MN...
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)Bernie is not a member of the Democratic Party. That was a big problem for me.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)I like Bernie, and voted for him in the primary. But I'm not going to pretend that the Russiapublicans weren't sitting on a treasure trove of material to use against him.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)that Trump wouldn't use the fact that Sanders took his honeymoon in the USSR against Sanders while Trump is really Putin's Puppet.
After all, Hillary was corrupt and on the take for giving a few speeches at Goldman Sachs, but Trump is now "smart" for putting a whole slew of Goldman people in his White House...
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maddiemom
(5,106 posts)The woman got three million more actual votes. The Hillary (also basic Clinton) hatred is deeply embedded, with little real reason if you compare her experience and abilities...and flaws... with any other candidate of either party. A lot of it IS misogyny and resentment and fear of strong women. Actually I voted for Bernie in the primary, but I'm also tired of hearing that he would have been the better candidate. The Republicans would have run a different, but equally nasty campaign against Bernie the Socialist. ( Look what they did in 2004 with a war hero versus a draft dodger). They probably would charge that he'd be (gasp!) "cozying up to Putin!"
weydowner
(100 posts)Thank God someone else agrees; to hear most columnists and posters, Hillary was some combination of Ma Kettle and Cruella De Vil; most people have faults but to concentrate on them, ignoring her many positive points, makes me believe that - secretly - you will be quite happy with the abomination you have now, and equally happy to have the name and reputation you have now being trampled in the manure.
samnsara
(17,606 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Like all the rest of those responsible people, I DO NOT identify with dishonest, irresponsible, and even malice-driven fools, and we should reject this characterization.
America chose Hill, but Trump was sworn in because the electoral college magnifies the vote of lesser-population states AND because the college failed its duty, the purpose for its existence.
klook
(12,152 posts)who got whole-heartedly behind Clinton when she secured the nomination.
calimary
(81,127 posts)zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)Just enough knuckle draggers to make a difference.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)DK504
(3,847 posts)The networks and their masters allowed this to happen. We still haven't heard one thing about a push to secure our internet privacy and our nations safety. Where are the stories on that?
I know if HRC has been elected, oh wait, she was, this is an issue that would be one of the major issues she would be dealing with.
Overtime I look at this election I can't help thinking how we crapped a great opportunity down the drain by infighting. When will get another chance like that?
pirateshipdude
(967 posts)Not talking enough, too loud, smiled. It never ends.
SunSeeker
(51,523 posts)niyad
(113,086 posts)they were swallowing.
BigmanPigman
(51,569 posts)His bruised ego is one of the things that will bring him down.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)"No utterance from a Democrat may be viewed through any lens but for the political spectrum"
--GOP Dogma Item 3
kairos12
(12,843 posts)lunamagica
(9,967 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)quiet, too.
I have to live with it but I cannot accept it in my soul.
GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)from your WE.
Thanks.
Hugin
(33,059 posts)I never participated in any of those things.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Not DU or any specific people..
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)Remember she won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.
yes, MOST of us did not ignore (or ridicule) her
GusBob
(7,286 posts)Isn't this about the time the "p-grabbing" comments came out?
The press ignored her to be exact
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)But yes, she did try. And yes, many of us were listening.
LisaM
(27,794 posts)mcar
(42,278 posts)I will never get over it.
videohead5
(2,166 posts)She has not murdered anyone
Pizzagate
No she did not give the Russians 20% of our uranium 10 agencies had to approve it and it can't be exported.
The Clintons have released their tax returns for 40 years.
The Clinton foundation has also released their tax returns and it's not a slush fund for the Clinton's.
mindfulNJ
(2,367 posts)I am mad all over again. Well...I guess I never stopped being mad.
What was done to and said about Hillary is unforgivable.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)and thought she was correctomundo.
Paladin
(28,243 posts)I am proud to have furnished her with my funding and my vote. And I continue to harbor ill will towards those "Democrats" who did their utmost to deliver the White House into the hands of the trump cabal. My unborn great-grandchildren will still be paying the price for this monumental electoral folly. All are punished.
I am still very angry. I'm not alone in this either
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)I told my mom today that my list of people I trust anymore got really short this year.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)there on so many levels.
msdogi
(430 posts)Hilary earned my respect and admiration long ago, and today I think she is a model of grace, dignity and patriotism. We all need to constantly remember she did win with the voters, despite the myriad wrenches thrown by a party who usually win elections only by subterfuge.
MiddleClass
(888 posts)How could we give her warnings, any air time.
Our media was too busy spiking their own ratings talking about basement servers.
Ironic thing was that that was probably the only server in the country that was actually secure.
From the Russians/Donald Trump campaign
MontanaMama
(23,296 posts)mock her. I sounded the alarm bell with my friends and family about it from the get-go. My only personal regret is that I didn't hound my congressional rep and senators harder. I foolishly assumed that they'd do something about Russia's attack on our country. Instead, they ignored it and they continue to ignore it while Russia's cyber-tentacles penetrate further into our lives. This is so far from over that it sickens me. Even if 45 were ousted today, Russia is still so deep in our business that we may not be rid of them for generations if ever.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And she still pulled 3 million more votes.
Edina
(22 posts)Many Americans admire and supported Hillary Clinton. Unfortunately, the Right has been poisoned for 30 years against both Clintons and the Left, sad to say, participated in trashing her. Some still are. Unforgivable. I received an offer today in the mail from Mother Jones. Went directly into the garbage. Mother Jones, The Nation, Salon....all can go to hell as far as I am concerned... they shit on Hillary and now they are dirt to me. Were they infiltrated by RW/Russian trolls? Too easy to let the Left off the hook. They used RW talking points and exuded as much hate against the DNC, HRC, and any non-pure Democrat they chose to take down.
I have been a life long Liberal Democrat and come from a long line of very Liberal people and sometimes I wonder if there is much difference these days between the Far Left so-called Progressives and RW Trumpists. I have a lot to lose under this Administration, I am not rich and never have been and I really resented LW folks stating HRC supporters were uninformed and were supporters of Wall Street elites, etc. I have not posted much on this site, I do at another and on BOTH this site and the one I normally post on I sometimes had to just stop reading because I wondered whose side some of the posters were on. Now it is all coming out but it is really too late. Damage is done.
ehrnst
(32,640 posts)aikoaiko
(34,163 posts)Little did we know.
samnsara
(17,606 posts)yardwork
(61,539 posts)sprinkleeninow
(20,218 posts)I posted in another thread that the late evening of that infamous day, November 8, unfolded in a sick joke when it showed those last key states turning against Hillary.
I will never ever reconcile that, ever.
This madness we have now I feel is unprecedented.
peggysue2
(10,825 posts)in the headline. It certainly wasn't me nor any of my friends or family. We supported Hillary Clinton, voted for her and knew she was the best candidate of our lifetimes. The same is true of most DU members and Dems across the country.
Anyone who's feeling guilty or a wee bit ashamed now? You were not paying attention and/or were suckered by the biggest heist in American history. Those who truly hold the blame are the enablers and the chaos agents and the Republican Party who will forever be stained by their complacency, complicity and withering silence. And, of course, the Trumps themselves in all their corrupt, treasonous, lying glory.
The American electorate will not forget. Not ever.
spanone
(135,795 posts)Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)blue-wave
(4,344 posts)to Hillary!! The despicable reichwing of our country have no honor. They would have destroyed a weaker person. Love you Hillary. You have my vote and my willingness to work my butt off any time you're ready to make the call.
Guilded Lilly
(5,591 posts)and that is a very low estimate, will NEVER forget.
And I am not all that great at forgiving certain things, either.
It will do positively no good to say it ...but I am still with her.
She still persisted and now...we RESIST.
padfun
(1,786 posts)I mean, you did say "we mocked her." And I assume you meant you and yours. Because most people I know didn't mock her. But I am in California where Hillary won by a huge landslide.
Progressive dog
(6,899 posts)some stuck their fingers in their ears and sang nah, nah, nah.
The thing that should concern every American now are those anti-American scum, who are continuing to aid and abet the Putin attack on our democracy.