Don Jr. just released the full Russia emails and they contain a smoking gun

[bigtree]

Raw Story‏ @RawStory 4m4 minutes ago

Don Jr. just released the full Russia emails and they contain a potential smoking gun — read them here http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/don-jr-just-released-the-full-russia-emails-and-they-contain-a-potential-smoking-gun-read-them-here/ …

____ In the first email sent from Goldstone to Trump, the music publicist explicitly told the elder Trump son that he was offering information to the Trump campaign that was “part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

“The Crown prosecutor of Russia… offered to provide the Trump campaign with some official documents and information that would incriminate Hillary and her dealings with Russia and would be very useful to your father,” Goldstone wrote. “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”

Trump Jr. did not question the appropriateness of getting information about Clinton from the Russian government, and replied, “Thanks Rob, I appreciate it.” He then offered to “do a call first thing next week” when he got back to New York after being on the campaign trail.

In a later email, Goldstone explicitly told Trump Jr. that a “Russian government attorney” was flying over from Moscow to meet him in Trump Tower on Thursday, June 9.

Trump Jr. then confirmed that he, brother-in-law Jared Kushner, and then-campaign chairman Paul Manafort would all meet with the attorney at Trump Tower... more
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Nicholas Kristof‏ @NickKristof 8m8 minutes ago
The email in which Trump Jr. is offered "sensitive" info that would "incriminate" Hillary as part of Russian govt campaign to support Trump
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Mark Murray @mmurraypolitics 12m12 minutes ago
"This is obviously very high level and sensitive information, but is part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump..."

[awesomerwb1]

1. Keep tweeting!!!!!

Why on earth would he be posting this? This is like suicide.

Come on, where's the catch??? Am I missing something???

[Mr. Ected]

2. Probably a public offering to the Disinformation Apparati

"See how you can twist and spin this to make me look good...then get it to Fox and Friends, stat"

[YCHDT]

37. K&R

[Blueplanet]

8. What in the world

is he trying to do by releasing these emails! He has an attorney.
Is he trying to get back at his father?

[sunonmars]

17. Hadcrossed my mind, hates him, after all

[ButSeeYa]

3. Is this real?

[Binders Keepers]

4. Could this be one of those booby traps that Rachel was warning about last week?

[thucythucy]

6. My question exactly. nt

[tblue37]

41. Since Fredo released them and also made public statements acknowledging these events

they can be trusted, because even if they were fake, the deliberate act of feeding fake documents *openly* to the press would itself reflect disastrously on Fredo et al.

[Volaris]

50. The next questions would be

These are clearly fake why are you putting this out?
If these are fake and you didn't know, where did they come from, and who created them?
Since these are fake, where are the REAL documents?
Are you really this stupid?
If yes, why are you advising the President?

[thucythucy]

63. Yeah, since I posted this it's become obvious

it's all real. It just amazes me how flat-out incompetent these "masters of the universe" truly are.

[boston bean]

5. "I can also send this info to your father via Rhona" Who the fuck is Rhona!?

[rainbow4321]

10. This is Rhona

Googled the words Rhona and Trump, got this

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/rhona-graff-trump-conduit-236484


When longtime friends and associates of President Donald Trump want to reach him, they don’t go directly to the White House. Instead, they call the woman who’s been the gatekeeper at Trump Tower for a quarter century: Rhona Graff.

Since Trump took office in January, Graff has become a conduit for those who want to quietly offer advice, make personnel suggestions or get on the president’s calendar when he’s at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida. The list includes investor Ken Langone and Hank Greenberg, the chairman & CEO of CV Starr whose assistant recently went to Graff about trying to set up a lunch with Trump, according to a person with knowledge of the call.

[boston bean]

12. me thinks Rhona has a subpeona in her future!

[MineralMan]

35. Oh, yes, no doubt at all.

I imagine Mueller already had her on his list. But now...she just got bumped up to the top of that list.

I wonder if she'll "flee the interview."

Where is Rhona today, I wonder?

[MineralMan]

11. Rhona Graff - Contact at Trump Tower

Here's the skinny on her:

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/03/rhona-graff-trump-conduit-236484

[redstatebluegirl]

22. She is bought and paid for. She would lie under oath to save her boss.

[MineralMan]

23. Well, maybe. Perhaps Mueller could convince her that

it would be in her best interest to answer questions truthfully. Lots and lots of questions.

He's a pretty convincing guy, I think.

I wonder where she is today. She poses a huge risk to Trump and his merry band of miscreants. I suspect she knows all of the key people and information needed in this investigation. She is apparently Trump's conduit and go-between at Trump Tower, so she may have information Mueller needs.

Someone may have warned her, and she might be hard to find right now. However, I'm sure the media is out there looking to speak to her after that email stream was released. They know who she is.

[redstatebluegirl]

25. You may be right, Mueller showing her that federal prison is in her future.

No amount of money would pay for time in jail. I would guess she is a treasure trove of information on all of the players. I saw a thing about her right after the election. Trump and his family trust her completely.

[procon]

7. Did he do this intentionally???

It wasn't sent in error... maybe he meant to send them to someone else and mistakenly made them public?

What was he thinking! The ignoramus just put his own head in the noose be admitted he was working with Russian to tilt the US election in Trump's favor. This clown wins the Darwin Award hands down!

[WhiskeyGrinder]

14. Yes. The NYT is all over this story and he thinks he can get ahead of it -- or derail it from

something bigger -- by issuing a statement and the emails. These people are goddamn amateurs.

[Girard442]

34. Well, now that the dirt's out there, no point in whacking him.

Not a wholly ridiculous plan.

[procon]

40. Huh???

[tblue37]

42. But sometimes the villain wants to make an example of someone, to send a

message to others about straying off the reservation.

[Girard442]

58. Yeah, there's always that.

[GusBob]

9. hate to be the "distraction man" but why are they releasing all this?

As Josh Marshall and others are now speculating, they are trying to cover a more important story or getting ahead of the curve on this one

Further speculation: in an effort to be done with this Russia business DTjr is going down on the sword

[onenote]

13. Maybe because someone else has it?

[GusBob]

29. yes I see that now

as pointed out below, the NYT

[WhiskeyGrinder]

16. The NYT is in the process of reporting them out. By releasing them himself with a statement, he is

either trying to get ahead of the story or deflect attention from something bigger. It's beautiful, really.

[GusBob]

30. yep I see that now thank you

is he falling on the sword or being tossed on it?

[loyalsister]

28. Falling on his sword was my thought, too

And, I'm wondering if there will be an effort to take advantage of the namesake to cast doubt that Trump Sr. had any knowledge of it.

[TexasBushwhacker]

59. Yup. Pleads guilty to reduced charges

Gets a suspended sentence.

[Foamfollower]

15. No "potential" about it.

That's a fucking smoking gun!

[cilla4progress]

18. Something

Doesn't smell right?

[Tatiana]

26. That's what I'm thinking, too.

Why? What's his motive?

[WinkyDink]

19. Trumps fear the Russian Mob waaaay more than they fear the US govt.---to which they ultimately might

look for safe haven.

[Sneederbunk]

27. This is the answer. Put Trump and family in Witness Protection Program.

[IronLionZion]

47. Relocate them to rural West Virginia or Flint Michigan

for their own safety!

[Tatiana]

20. Good Lord! Is this real? Is he for or against his daddy?

Wow - this is EXTREMELY damning. Why would he release this... and now?

Is there potentially MORE damning information they are trying to distract us from?

This is such bull... if there was incriminating information about Hillary, it would have been leaked a LONG TIME AGO.

Clinton should not take the bait to respond at this time.

[Freethinker65]

21. Seems they are trying to gin up anti Hillary sentiment

Look this way Trumpets, Russia was offering us dirt on crooked Hillary and we just had to meet to save the country from potential evil democrats.

This is nothing new. Throughout the campaign, Trump accused Hillary and the Clinton's of things Trump himself and the campaign were doing. Go after Hillary's Russian Uranium mine, the Clinton Foundations donations and quid pro quos, Bill's indiscretions, Chelseas finances. Every fucking time the media would turn their attention away from Trumps and his cabal's nefarious dealings...away from his collusion and changing of party anti-Russian platform, away from his foundation's poor record keeping/fines/abuses of funds, away from his own pussy grabbing and mysogenistic claims of the past, away from his kids financial misdeeds. So the media dug into everything Clinton, and they answered every fucking thing which got ALL of the media attention that her magnificent platform, speeches, and rallies did not. Trump's group just sat back and watched it happen, with help from Russia and micro-targeting.

This bullshit worked perfectly during the campaign. Will it still work? We shall see

[kacekwl]

24. Why Mr. Trump did you not contact the FBI or

your lawyer regarding illegal activity from Clinton ?

[Johonny]

31. Wow, just wow. Republican voters are all traitors now. Plain and simple

You either denounce this or denounce American democracy. There's no two roads here...disgusting.

[SDJay]

32. This Is SO INCREDIBLY STUPID

I can't help but thinking, as others have here, that there's something else going on/some other motive for this other than "I'll get ahead of this and minimize it." What's this fucking moron going to do next? Release Daddy's tax returns to "show the public there's nothing to hide"?

If nothing else, the weak link in this family of clowns has been identified. This idiot seems to share Daddy's qualities of not listening to anyone, thinking he's the smartest guy in the room and that everyone will believe him because he's so smooth. Yet it also seems that, somehow, he's even dumber than Daddy.

Wow. Maybe the way to save our country is through the tiny little brain of Fredo Trump.

[octoberlib]

38. Don Jr. took Ivana's side in the divorce , didn't talk to his father for years and has said

in the past that he doesn't think his father loves him. Maybe he feels he's going to be thrown under the bus and decided to bring as many people down as he could?

[SDJay]

46. Maybe. But Even If

that's the case, why wouldn't the dummkopf see if there was a way to do this with the help of his lawyer as opposed to just dumping all of this out there himself?

He really must be that stupid.

[BainsBane]

33. How can a human being be so incredibly stupid?

[Tom Rinaldo]

49. Maybe he knows someone else would release them all anyway

If so, better to create the illusion that he doesn't think he has anything to hide and is being forthcoming.

[BainsBane]

52. Yeah, I saw that afterward

That at least makes sense.

[emulatorloo]

53. Yes. NYT has them and published today

[Not Ruth]

56. Junior is using the "Sargeant Schultz" defense, which is a real thing believe it or not

It usually does not work.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_defense

No major instances of the idiot defense being successful in criminal proceedings have been reported in American jurism to date. Instead, all such uses are widely believed to have resulted in the defendants employing idiot defenses being found guilty on at least some if not all counts.

[Not Ruth]

57. Also known as the George Costanza defense

George: (pauses for a few seconds) "Was that wrong? Should I have not done that? I tell you, I gotta plead ignorance on this thing because if anyone had said anything to me at all when I first started here that that sort of thing was frowned upon, you know, ‘cause I've worked in a lot of offices and I tell you people do that all the time."

[BainsBane]

60. That will be Daddy's defense as well. nt

[Baitball Blogger]

36. OMIGOD!

This is what happens when you don't have all of your children under one roof. When you least expect it, one of them is bound to send you a royal FUCK YOU DAD!

[underpants]

39. Even Glenn Beck called it "treason" compared it to Snowden

Yeah I know it's Beck - who hates Trump - but he and his cohosts couldn't spin it.

[Goonch]

43. Butt-Head Beavis

[SHRED]

44. So when will arrests start?

[Hekate]

45. Stupid. Gullible. Greedy. Mendacious.

All that, and Treasonous, too.

[mercuryblues]

48. Holy Shit

the stupid is strong with this one.

I have read this post and comments numerous times to be sure my eyes weren't deceiving me.

[Mme. Defarge]

51. "Crown prosecutor"?

Really? In Russia?

[Not Ruth]

55. Washington Post shows Yuri Chaika as the probable name

There might not be a Crown Prosecutor in Russia due to the lack of that type of government.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/07/11/whos-who-in-the-stunning-russia-conspiracy-emails-released-by-donald-trump-jr/?utm_term=.6d2507317c43

[Bernardo de La Paz]

54. Note mini-Trump accepted PREMISE of Russian govt support for Trump. The DEAL was already made.

Thus by date of that first email, about a week after Republicon Convention, there had already been negotiations and agreements for that support.

The quid pro quo was the change to the Republican platform regarding sanctions against Russia and that there would be ongoing efforts by tRump to lift the sanctions.

[eggplant]

61. Force him to prove their validity.

Either they are real and he proves his own criminal act, or they are fake, and he invalidates every excuse they've made to date.

[people]

62. Seems like the deal was done way before this email chain begins

The language in the email chain and this posting that really stuck out to me was this:

"In the first email sent from Goldstone to Trump, the music publicist explicitly told the elder Trump son that he was offering information to the Trump campaign that was 'part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.'"

I think it's really odd that Jr. didn't write back and ask what Goldstone meant when Goldstone referred to the Russian government's support for Mr. Trump. It seems like the Russian government's support for Trump was already known otherwise I would expect there would have been some back and forth about that statement.

I will be amazed if the Trump regime is still in office at the end of this year.