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Flo Mingo

(492 posts)
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 11:09 AM Jul 2017

Karmic debt and the rise and fall of a great nation

I have one guiding philosophy I live by: The Universe is Perfect

Whether you believe the universe was consciously created by a higher power or that it is nothing more than the result of physical laws playing out randomly over millenniums, you might even agree with me that God and/or physics are perfect in their consistency.

By putting my faith in the perfection of everything, I’m able to find something positive in every situation. An opportunity to better understand myself, to grow spiritually, to learn something new, to benefit financially, to meet a new person, get a new job. In the perfect universe, opportunity abounds.

I believe in the perfection of good examples and horrible warnings and that they both serve the same purpose. I bless them both as great teachers but many times since the election I’ve asked myself, “Where is the perfection in this?” How is any of this good for us, good for America, good for the world? And what I’ve come to is this: If Hillary would have become President, we’d be on a much more stable path and likely continuing the progress of Obama. But we would be stable in a still corrupt system. Still lying in a velvet coffin, if you will. Republicans would be ruthless and relentless in their condemnation of her every move. (And hairstyle and outfit) The press would still be digging every bit of Clinton dirt, real or imagined, out of every corner and holding it up to remind everyone how corrupt she/they are. They’d still be ignoring much larger stories of climate change and voter suppression and congress siphoning every bit of middle class dollars they can into the pockets of the rich and not so famous.

Trump is the worst of America staring us in the face, forcing us to look in the mirror as a nation. Look at our greed and racism. Look at our homophobia and our crass commercialism. Look at our lack of compassion and our toxic nationalism. The universe is handy like that, don’t you think? It keeps showing you the same thing over and over, getting more and more extreme until you see it and make the necessary change within to alter your experience. What we are experiencing now is the karma of a nation unwilling to say, “We behaved badly.” Instead, we look at genocide of the American Indian and the enslavement of Africans as necessary and justified inconveniences in the pursuit of a great nation. We have yet to acknowledge the damage America has done and the lives it has taken around the world in pursuit of profits disguised as democracy. Sorry, but that’s some serious karmic debt we’ve racked up and now we are immersed in the results.

We’ve got Trump. The Mac Daddy of Horrible Warnings. Maybe he is the universe screaming at us, “I’M TRYING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE”. And as always, the opportunity is there to learn and grow and come out on the other side better for the battle. The question is, will we listen now? Which way we go from here is yet to be seen. Many possibilities exist but rest assured, karma is constant, the universe is perfect and we will get exactly what we deserve based on the choices we make.

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Karmic debt and the rise and fall of a great nation (Original Post) Flo Mingo Jul 2017 OP
I've had many of these thoughts, as well... cilla4progress Jul 2017 #1
yw Flo Mingo Jul 2017 #4
I feel exactly the same way, and will enlarge this to say that it's not just the Nay Jul 2017 #2
Agreed Flo Mingo Jul 2017 #3
I agree with the sentiment, though not from a karmic perspective marylandblue Jul 2017 #5
tomato or tomahto Flo Mingo Jul 2017 #6
Too many suffer from the inability to say, "I behaved badly." CrispyQ Jul 2017 #7
yes, on way to many fronts, we're the baddies KG Jul 2017 #8
Evolution works in mysterious ways. GeorgeGist Jul 2017 #9
Amen to that Flo Mingo Jul 2017 #10

Nay

(12,051 posts)
2. I feel exactly the same way, and will enlarge this to say that it's not just the
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 11:52 AM
Jul 2017

United States that will be hit by the karma bus -- it's the whole human race. We either wake up now or die.

Flo Mingo

(492 posts)
3. Agreed
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 11:57 AM
Jul 2017

There are good examples and horrible warnings all over the globe. We need the Trudeaus to Obamas to outnumber the Trumps and Putins.

I'm an optimist so I believe the future will be better. But I'm old, so as Louis Black says............FUCK, this IS my future.

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
5. I agree with the sentiment, though not from a karmic perspective
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:14 PM
Jul 2017

America is an arrogant nation. We believed we were the best at everything. We ignored our shadow side. The racist, misogynistic, xenophobic side that has created so much evil. Now we can see that side clearly. Now we can either integrate and redeem our shadow or be overwhelmed by it.

Flo Mingo

(492 posts)
6. tomato or tomahto
Wed Jul 12, 2017, 12:20 PM
Jul 2017

The fruit is the same.

America needs to shine some light on its shadow that it might disappear.

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