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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:51 AM Jul 2017

Morning Joe Guest: Trump like 'Napoleon,' Family Like 'The Borgias'

by Jon Levine | 8:28 am, July 14th, 2017

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Taking his turn in the spotlight was Morning Joe resident historian Jon Meacham. The Pulitzer Prize author and former Newsweek Editor-in-Chief is often the go-to authority for pithy historical analogies. On Friday’s show, he did not disappoint, in the same breath comparing Donald Trump to “Napoleon” and his family to “The Borgias”

“The Trump example, both in terms of the family and of the in-laws, is unique in American history,” said Meacham. “This is more like the Borgias, or the Bonapartes, remember Napoleon put various brothers and cousins on different thrones.”

In obvious anticipation of criticism, Meacham took care to differentiate between the Borgias — I mean Trumps — and the Kennedy’s, who as we all know, installed Bobby as Attorney General after his brother became president.

“Yes, Bobby Kennedy was Attorney General, and, yes, President Kennedy joked that he thought Bobby should get some legal experience by being Attorney General before he went out to practice, but Robert Kennedy was a formidable figure.”

For those unfamiliar, the Borgias were a notorious crime family who operated during the Italian renaissance. Members of the family served in various ecclesiastical and royal titles for more than 200 years. The over-the-top decadence and insanity of the Borgia Pope Alexander VI played a direct role sparking the reformation.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/morning-joe-guest-trump-like-napoleon-family-like-the-borgias/

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Morning Joe Guest: Trump like 'Napoleon,' Family Like 'The Borgias' (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2017 OP
I laughed when he said that. Solly Mack Jul 2017 #1
Napoleon was a great general and a military genius of his era dalton99a Jul 2017 #2
And possessed unquestioned personal, physical courage . . . hatrack Jul 2017 #3
He also steered revolutionary France away from thucythucy Jul 2017 #4
The Borgias also had a penchant for assassinating thucythucy Jul 2017 #5
"Here, have some poison" dalton99a Jul 2017 #6
and incest or so it was rumored standingtall Jul 2017 #7

hatrack

(59,583 posts)
3. And possessed unquestioned personal, physical courage . . .
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 08:58 AM
Jul 2017

The same will never be said of President Shitstain.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
4. He also steered revolutionary France away from
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 09:05 AM
Jul 2017

a possible democracy, proclaiming himself emperor and launching a series of wars that ended in the complete defeat of France and the triumph--for several decades--of the counter revolution.

But yeah, there's no comparison between a brilliant figure like Napoleon (who started from humble beginnings) and an ignorant dolt like Trump.

thucythucy

(8,043 posts)
5. The Borgias also had a penchant for assassinating
Fri Jul 14, 2017, 09:06 AM
Jul 2017

their enemies. I believe poison was their preferred method.

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