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FORGET THEY GOT EXACTLY WHAT THEY ASKED FOR (VIDEO)
More and more Trump voters are feeling buyers remorse after they let their desire to ban Muslims from entering the country and build a gigantic wall to keep those inferior brownish people to the south from coming into their pristine white country.
Sure, it was all fun and games when it was all Muslim bans this and MAGA that but now shit is getting real for the poorly educated people who voted for The Donald.
On Thursday, FAKE NEWS (or whatever mean hashtag Trump is tweeting these days) CNN hosted a panel of people who have been betrayed by Donald Trump after they trusted him to lead the country and now that their healthcare is threatened, they suddenly think there might be a problem with putting a kakistocrat in office because he caters to the worst in all of them.
I have bipolar disorder, its a pretty severe case, Colleen England Byrd a woman who is suddenly scared now that Trump has made good on his promise to do his everything to ruin healthcare. And if he takes that away Medicaid people, Medicare people, no medications, no doctors its going to be like the zombie apocalypse, really running-through-the-streets crazy.
http://oppositionreport.com/trump-voters-whine-that-theyre-scared-to-death-of-trumpcare-forget-they-got-exactly-what-they-asked-for-video/
pirateshipdude
(967 posts)The congress is the one that controls this. I figure they would ignore Trump.
Hm, where was this woman for 6 yrs while Republicans repeatedly tried to repeal.
HAB911
(8,867 posts)pirateshipdude
(967 posts)tblue37
(65,215 posts)would vote for him again, because they have been propagandized into believing that HRC specifically, and Democrats and liberals generally are so bad.
COLGATE4
(14,732 posts)moan when something actually affects THEM but, insofar as the rest of humanity is concerned we can all go to hell (where many of them are absolutely sure we're going, anyway). They're still convinced that one day they too will become multimillionaires and, when that happens they're damned well not going to share any of that with all those liberal moochers. Fuck all of them.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)Yeah, right. These people are too stupid (and/or too racist) to live. Dump was right for once when he said he could shoot someone in the middle of 5th Avenue and they'd still support him.
Zambero
(8,962 posts)Covered! Death panels on call 24 hours a day.
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)Fuck them
Motownman78
(491 posts)for Obama twice.
standingtall
(2,785 posts)Doubt millions of them voted for Obama even once let alone twice.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)A true Obama voter could not make such a damned evil turn.
Motownman78
(491 posts)Obama got 360 and 332 EV in 2008 and 2012. ANES reported in their Post-Election questionaire that an estimated 8.5 million voted for Trump who had voted for Obama in 2012. While only 2.5 million who voted Romney in 2012 voted for HRC. These voters are mostly in Ohio, Iowa, Florida, and North Carolina with smaller numbers in Minnesota, Michigan, and Wisconsin.
Here is a link to a article about an investigation done by a Democratic Super-PAC: https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2017/05/02/failure-large-slice-of-obama-voters-who-flipped-for-trump-thought-clintons-agen-n2320834
standingtall
(2,785 posts)Cannot run over the fact that Obama's raw vote totals dropped by 3 million between 2008 to 2012 Hilary was barely behind Obama's 2012 mark. Also more people voted for 3rd party candidates than they did in 2008 and 2012.
Even in this survey your using which I don't believe. only says 8.5 million Trump voters voted for Obama in 2012. Where is the evidence they voted for Obama in 2008?
If millions of Trump voters voted for Obama twice Obama would not have had a 3 million vote drop.
I don't doubt that there are many Trump voters that claim to have voted for Obama twice though. However did it ever occur to you that they are lying?
Besides that Townhall.com is a right wing site. So I wouldn't trust them as a source for a damn thing.
Motownman78
(491 posts)there were about 2.25 million fewer voters for Reps and Dems COMBINED in 2012 then 2008. Also, 3rd party candidates got around 360,000 more votes in total then in 2008. That can explain most of the difference between Obama's 2008 and 2012 totals. Maybe his 3 million vote drop could be explained by the fact that we were no longer electing the first AA President, and there was less enthusiasm and sense of history. Here is a link to showcase this thought http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-p-mcdonald/2012-turnout-race-ethnict_b_3240179.html.
Yes, Townhall.com might be a right wing site, but the study I linked to was done by Priorities USA, a Democratic Super-PAC.
Obama was very charismatic and reflected change and hope in America. That is why he won states like Ohio, Michigan, and Pennsylvania so easily. When 2016 came along, the decades of hate and Clinton-bashing paid off. Though it is anecdotal, a know several people who either voted for Trump or voted other than HRC because they "Do not want to deal with 4 years of Impeachment hearings".
I have been in low income property management for 16 years, so I mostly deal with blue collar, lower middle class workers and their families. The above statement in quotes was a very common sentiment. The other one was that liked how Trump would say things they were too afraid to say in public. His "Honey-Badger" attitude towards the establishment and the media. These people heard him yell "You are getting ripped-off by Washington" and they yelled in response "Hell yeah we are".
standingtall
(2,785 posts)by 2012 the were no longer electing the first African American President,bu reelecting the first African American President.
What you fail to explain is if Hilary had lost this large chunk of Obama voters. Why she was only a couple hundred thousand votes shy of Obama's 2012 totals. If you lose something somewhere than you have to make it up some place else. Otherwise you will be way short of where you were at. Obama got 66 million votes 2012 Hilary got nearly 66 million in 2016.
The study you cited says 8.5 million Trump voters claimed to have voted for Obama in 2012. If Hilary lost 8.5 million Obama voters her vote totals should've been more like 57.5 million. Possibly a turnout swell of Hispanics could've filled in, but that would be an awful lot.The math just doesn't work.
I'm sure there are people who voted Obama twice who voted Trump,but in big numbers it's highly unlikely.
Maraya1969
(22,459 posts)Motownman78
(491 posts)Priorities USA. Is Priorites USA a craapy right wing SUPER-PAC?
Maraya1969
(22,459 posts)I can't remember the exact numbers but it was something like only 2.5 million people voted for Hillary Clinton while 8 million voted for Trump. Those are bullshit numbers.
Plus this article give zero credit to Russia who we now know was behind pushing fake news and hacking into IP addresses to push crap toward Trump.
Motownman78
(491 posts)In Ohio there was a 650,000 vote swing in one state with lower turnout then 2012.
Motownman78
(491 posts)5.5 total votes in 2012. Obama won by 3 points or 200,000 votes. In 2016 there were 5.1 million votes with Trump thumping HRC by 8 points. The swing with a lower turn-out was 650,000 votes. That is just ONE state btw.
Point is to the first poster. There are a LOT of people who voted for Trump who HAVE voted for a Democrat. And it is in the millions.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)That in itself proves without a doubt how unaware of facts they lack.
Zambero
(8,962 posts)Medical science remains baffled by this phenomena, as incoming facts immediately ricochet away like bullets to a boulder.
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)The GOP made his name toxic to them about everything. They are willing to throw grandma under the bus and their children too to keep from giving Obama credit for anything positive in their lives.
Maraya1969
(22,459 posts)Jim Lane
(11,175 posts)Trump didn't campaign on a promise to deprive millions of people of coverage. His platform was that more people would be covered, with better care and more choices, at lower cost.
Of course, anyone with a brain knew that this was pure wishful thinking. It's appalling that so many people accepted that there was any plan that could accomplish this, and that Trump would somehow whip up such a plan after the election even though no specifics had been proposed (by him or anyone else) in the seven years since the ACA was enacted. Apparently, however, they did accept it.
Bettie
(16,060 posts)I've got nothing.
I'll save my energy for the millions of innocent people who will lose out along with the people who chose it.
They knew what they were getting, it wasn't a secret, but they decided that hate was more important than humanity. Fuck them.
larry budwell
(50 posts)You bought it, you keep it. No returns. No Exchanges. No refunds.
KingCharlemagne
(7,908 posts)voted for the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party.
Gothmog
(144,903 posts)Vinca
(50,236 posts)standingtall
(2,785 posts)republicans. When they admit that they hurt not only themselves,but the country as well and promise never to do such a thing again.
Solly Mack
(90,758 posts)Dem2
(8,166 posts)Allowing healthy young people to get shit policies will jack up rates for us people in our 50's and up.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)I care about the people that voted for Hillary and will now suffer because of the policies of the malignant asshole, Trump and republicans.
LyndaG
(683 posts)They fell for it.
Golden Raisin
(4,604 posts)They happily and willingly contributed to installing this horrible regime with its 24/7 chaos, non-stop sleaze factor and deliberate destruction of Democracy impacting ALL of us. They can all fuck off and suffer the consequences they brought down on ALL our heads.
dchill
(38,433 posts)degenerate. But he's not as bad as the Republican Party, who are the ones doing this to our health care. GLEEFULLY.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)I actually would be for it in that case.
Doreen
(11,686 posts)I do not give a crap about your health problems. You obviously would not have given a fuck if everybody else lost theirs just as long as your pretty little self did not lose it. You get what you voted for and that was for your hate to be supported by your trump god and now cry because you are getting hated. Go crawl under a rock and never come out.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)Sadly everyone seems to be joining Trump culture.