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SHRED

(28,136 posts)
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:45 PM Jul 2017

A "Commie for Donny"

Let's start calling them that.
Hashtag it.
Do whatever to spread it.

Credit to Demtexan for this.

ON EDIT...I realize Putin's Russia is not communist. However this meme was meant for brain dead dumbass trumpets who react to slogans.

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David__77

(23,364 posts)
1. I don't think Communists generally support Trump.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 01:50 PM
Jul 2017

In fact, I think plenty of them actively oppose him.

The Communist Party USA supports voting Democratic, and is active in unions and progressive organizations.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
5. The CP - USA is a comprador party and long since parted from its Marxist
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:06 PM
Jul 2017

origins. The Party for Socialism and Liberation represents continuity with the broad mainstream of Marxist-Leninist thought. The PSL is implacably opposed to Trump (and to all fascist regimes).

David__77

(23,364 posts)
7. Comprador?
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:14 PM
Jul 2017

That seems to me to be a misuse of that word. If you mean that it's a representative of "bourgeoisified" elements, then I get what you're saying, without necessarily agreeing.

I'm glad PSL is active in being on the streets with anti-racist and anti-war messages.

There are plenty of parties that claim to be communist, including Workers World Party, which I find indistinguishable from PSL.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
8. You cant get to Socialism via a bourgeois party (which
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:21 PM
Jul 2017

supports the interests of capital and the bourgeoisie). I long ago stopped listening to anything the new CP-USA has to say; if I want bourgeois rationalizations for the status quo, I prefer to go straight to the horse's mouth (the Dems).

David__77

(23,364 posts)
9. What is "socialism?"
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 04:27 PM
Jul 2017

It is "from each according to ability, to each according to work." That's the distribution system as laid out in 1848 by Marx and Engels.

I wanted to note that definition here.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
11. Are you sure?? ive always seen the quote trabslated as "From each according to his ability; to
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 10:45 PM
Jul 2017

each according to his need." (I.e., not "work&quot .

David__77

(23,364 posts)
12. That's communism.
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 10:49 PM
Jul 2017

Quite different from socialism. Both are in the Communist manifesto. Socialism is a transition between two systems and is much more like capitalism than communism.

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
16. Actually, socialism is much more like communism than like capitalism, in that socialism
Sun Jul 16, 2017, 10:20 AM
Jul 2017

and communism are both founded on public ownership of the means of production, whereas capitalism keeps private property in the hands of the bourgeoisie. Witness 1% of the U.S. population controls (aka "owns&quot 40% of its wealth!

N.B. Bernie Sanders, bless his heart, never called for public ownership of the means of production, thereby giving the lie to the "Democratic Socialist" label he affixed to himself.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
13. Russia hasn't been Communist for a very long time now (25 years)
Sat Jul 15, 2017, 10:56 PM
Jul 2017

if you want to look like an idiot, go ahead.

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